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Old 07-13-2018, 12:02 PM   #1
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The Ten Commandments of Liberal Inquiry

1. Do not feel absolutely certain of anything.

2. Do not think it worthwhile to produce belief by concealing evidence, for the evidence is sure to come to light.

3. Never try to discourage thinking, for you are sure to succeed.

4.. When you meet with opposition, even if it should be from your husband or your children, endeavor to overcome it by argument and not by authority, for a victory dependent upon authority is unreal and illusory.

5. Have no respect for the authority of others, for there are always contrary authorities to be found.

6. Do not use power to suppress opinions you think pernicious, for if you do the opinions will suppress you.

7. Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted was once eccentric.

8. Find more pleasure in intelligent dissent than in passive agreement, for, if you value intelligence as you should, the former implies a deeper agreement than the latter.

9. Be scrupulously truthful, even when truth is inconvenient, for it is more inconvenient when you try to conceal it.

10. Do not feel envious of the happiness of those who live in a fool’s paradise, for only a fool will think that it is happiness

Credit to Bertrand Russel.
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Old 07-13-2018, 12:24 PM   #2
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Sound at all familiar?

"Collective fear stimulates herd instinct, and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd."
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Old 07-13-2018, 12:28 PM   #3
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Sound at all familiar?

"Collective fear stimulates herd instinct, and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd."
Sounds like the GOP platform on immigration.
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Sounds like the GOP platform on immigration.
And gun reform. And welfare. Etc.

Not at all saying the same herd mentality isn't present on the left because it definitely is, but to try to paint this in any way as a one-side-only type thing is the epitome of bad faith arguing.
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For the record, I was actually referring to some of my own posts when I start getting into referring to "the herd".

Not that either of you are incorrect.
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And gun reform. And welfare. Etc.

Not at all saying the same herd mentality isn't present on the left because it definitely is, but to try to paint this in any way as a one-side-only type thing is the epitome of bad faith arguing.
This is true and I didn't intend to imply only the GOP engages in this behavior.
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1. Do not feel absolutely certain of anything.

2. Do not think it worthwhile to produce belief by concealing evidence, for the evidence is sure to come to light.

3. Never try to discourage thinking, for you are sure to succeed.

4.. When you meet with opposition, even if it should be from your husband or your children, endeavor to overcome it by argument and not by authority, for a victory dependent upon authority is unreal and illusory.

5. Have no respect for the authority of others, for there are always contrary authorities to be found.

6. Do not use power to suppress opinions you think pernicious, for if you do the opinions will suppress you.

7. Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted was once eccentric.

8. Find more pleasure in intelligent dissent than in passive agreement, for, if you value intelligence as you should, the former implies a deeper agreement than the latter.

9. Be scrupulously truthful, even when truth is inconvenient, for it is more inconvenient when you try to conceal it.

10. Do not feel envious of the happiness of those who live in a fool’s paradise, for only a fool will think that it is happiness

Credit to Bertrand Russel.
Sadly, I don't think this is accurate for either side of the political divide today.

IMHO, it is a trival exercise to find multiple examples, for both sides, where they violate every one of these "Commandments".

I suspect Russel used the term "Liberal" in the context of the Renaissance "Liberal Arts", and not the political concept.

From Britannica. Note: paragraph breaks added for clarity.

The part in bold seems most germane.

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Liberal arts, college or university curriculum aimed at imparting general knowledge and developing general intellectual capacities in contrast to a professional, vocational, or technical curriculum.

In the medieval European university the seven liberal arts were grammar, rhetoric, and logic (the trivium) and geometry, arithmetic, music, and astronomy (the quadrivium).

In modern colleges and universities the liberal arts include the study of literature, languages, philosophy, history, mathematics, and science as the basis of a general, or liberal, education.

Sometimes the liberal-arts curriculum is described as comprehending study of three main branches of knowledge: the humanities (literature, language, philosophy, the fine arts, and history), the physical and biological sciences and mathematics, and the social sciences.
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That is correct.
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Certainty


“Certain” represents an assessment of the evidence for a conclusion; it is usually contrasted with two other broad types of assessment: “possible” and “probable.” . . .

Idea X is “certain” if, in a given context of knowledge, the evidence for X is conclusive. In such a context, all the evidence supports X and there is no evidence to support any alternative . . . .

You cannot challenge a claim to certainty by means of an arbitrary declaration of a counter-possibility, . . . you cannot manufacture possibilities without evidence . . . .

All the main attacks on certainty depend on evading its contextual character . . . .

The alternative is not to feign omniscience, erecting every discovery into an out-of-context absolute, or to embrace skepticism and claim that knowledge is impossible. Both these policies accept omniscience as the standard: the dogmatists pretend to have it, the skeptics bemoan their lack of it. The rational policy is to discard the very notion of omniscience. Knowledge is contextual—it is knowledge, it is valid, contextually.

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