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Old 01-08-2018, 11:23 AM   #16
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The blowback from people who didn't understand the difference between saying a slur while discussing it, and using a slur as an insult isn't worth enunciating it. Besides, I'm sure the forum would asterisk it out. But if it makes you feel better, I'll type it out for you: "do you know if Richie said ******? The point of mine was that people are okay with some unacceptable (to me) terms (you mother/daughter blah blah whatever) and calling someone a *** or a *****.

I don't condone any of it, I just see a difference between speaking publicly and engaging in a yelling match one-on-one with a man who is trying to take out your knees, and can't work up enough shock and hysteria to care about two football players calling each other names.

And I think it embarrassing for a 300 pound, heavily muscled grown man to cry, "Wah. He called me a NAME!"

BTW, f you had posted this in the political thread where it belongs I wouldn't have seen it and offended you by not being shocked and outraged.
I'll start with the last item first. This isn't political. It is a football issue. In case you haven't noticed, players have been using their football celebrity as well as football games to highlight charges of racism.

This, if it happened, would be a racist act.

As far as people being comfortable using certain words that are considered slur, I expect that all dependence on who you ask and if you are buying or selling.

Whatever happens on the field of play would be well served staying right there. That said, the new reality is highly charge, race sensitive media that sees a racist on every corner and any opportunity they have to indite him they do even if it isn't true.

Still waiting for the evidence.
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Old 01-08-2018, 11:29 AM   #17
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I'll start with the last item first. This isn't political. It is a football issue. In case you haven't noticed, players have been using their football celebrity as well as football games to highlight charges of racism.

This, if it happened, would be a racist act.

As far as people being comfortable using certain words that are considered slur, I expect that all dependence on who you ask and if you are buying or selling.

Whatever happens on the field of play would be well served staying right there. That said, the new reality is highly charge, race sensitive media that sees a racist on every corner and any opportunity they have to indite him they do even if it isn't true.

Still waiting for the evidence.
This has nothing to do with the media. They didn't start it. Ngakuae tweeted it himself. Sports media has every right to pick up on it.
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Old 01-08-2018, 11:31 AM   #18
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Incognito is an epic asshole, but this accusation feels like BS
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Old 01-08-2018, 11:36 AM   #19
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Incognito is an epic asshole, but this accusation feels like BS
It probably is. I just can't see him posting it on twitter for no reason, though. But we'll never know the truth.
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Old 01-08-2018, 11:37 AM   #20
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Incognito is an epic asshole, but this accusation feels like BS
Does it? Wasn't dropping slurs part of what got him in trouble during the bullying scandal?

IIRC didn't RI declare himself an honorary black? (I don't think that's how it works FTR)
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Old 01-08-2018, 12:08 PM   #22
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This has nothing to do with the media. They didn't start it. Ngakuae tweeted it himself. Sports media has every right to pick up on it.
I didn't mean to imply that it is only media driven. I will however state categorically that the media goes out of their way to paint the nation as racist. Any perceived, hinted, extrapolated, double entendre, throw away line, etc they can paint as racist, even when there was no racist intent, they do so without reservation.
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I didn't mean to imply that it is only media driven. I will however state categorically that the media goes out of their way to paint the nation as racist. Any perceived, hinted, extrapolated, double entendre, throw away line, etc they can paint as racist, even when there was no racist intent, they do so without reservation.
Without getting too political, so I won't say anything beyond this:

This nation IS racist. Therefore, people speak out. If nobody spoke out, we would remain a blind racist nation.
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Unless we're going well beyond basic racial slurs I am calling bullshit on that part.
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Without getting too political, so I won't say anything beyond this:

This nation IS racist. Therefore, people speak out. If nobody spoke out, we would remain a blind racist nation.
We will have to agree to disagree. I expect there are some racists in the nation bu a racist nation? Not at all.
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There are different codes of racial slurs. As an Irishman, being called a mick or a Paddy would have me shrugging my shoulders going, "meh". It's nowhere near the worst racial slurs. The irish of course are not a "race" so it's like saying, Frog, Kraut, Yank, Limey etc. Somehow though, Guinea and Wop seem a lot worse, I don't know why that is. The English have/had a whole range of slurs from Dago, to Paki to Punjab....calling us Paddy or Mick was way down the list of offensive words.

The N word though carries such emotional history with it of horrific abuse and oppression that it's on another scale.
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