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View Poll Results: What lies in Tom Brady's future as a QB?
He'll be back to play for the Pats next year. 30 57.69%
He'll play QB for another team as yet undetermined. 14 26.92%
He's done with this part of his career and will retire. 0 0%
He'll never voluntarily retire until forced to by injury or other force beyond his control 3 5.77%
Other: If you select this option, you have to say WHAT it will be. 5 9.62%
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Old 01-11-2020, 05:53 PM   #16
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I hope Brady stays. But if he doesn’t a small part of me will enjoy seeing BB get absolutely exposed next season. I’d be blown away if the Pats win the division without Tom next year. BB made the decision to stick with Tom over Bledsoe. That’s huge, and took balls. Outside of that though I believe he’s the most overrated coach of all time.
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i hope brady stays. But if he doesnít a small part of me will enjoy seeing bb get absolutely exposed next season. Iíd be blown away if the pats win the division without tom next year. Bb made the decision to stick with tom over bledsoe. Thatís huge, and took balls. Outside of that though i believe heís the most overrated coach of all time.
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Definitely. I’m not saying he’s not good. Or even not great. But everyone acts like Belichick is god. It’s gone to his head, and it’s been a problem for years. It’s time for him to retire. He’s blown 90 percent of the first and second round picks the last decade. His game plans the second half of this season have been downright awful, and his personal decisions all year ignored clear problems that were absolutely glaring. His ego is a huge problem. He is not a god, and he’s treated as one/acts as though he believes it, and so yes I think he’s overrated.

And if Brady doesn’t come back this team is absolutely f.... ed
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I hope Brady stays. But if he doesn’t a small part of me will enjoy seeing BB get absolutely exposed next season. I’d be blown away if the Pats win the division without Tom next year. BB made the decision to stick with Tom over Bledsoe. That’s huge, and took balls. Outside of that though I believe he’s the most overrated coach of all time.
I agree with you especially from a player development perspective. BB coaching staff has principally been responsible for player development i.e. SCAR-DL/OL, Patricia-D, Judge-ST, Pees-D, O'Brien-OC, McD-OC, etc. BB is suppose to be a D GURU but his real focus is on front 7 and he _or Stevie) has ZERO secondary expertise. Without DB/CB/SSorFS experience Pats this year showed how they wilted late in the season.

As I've previously said, get rid of BB (10M off payroll), bring TFB back, get some decent OL, WRs, TEs, 1 Power Back if Develin is not 100%, new K if Gost is not 100% healthy & consistent, DBs 6'1" that can play M-2-M press coverage and get the hell away from give it all zone coverage. Pats play this way mostly because their D coaching staff does not know how to correctly play that position and BB thinks that small dwarfts can auto-play this position, so how bout we get real!!!
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I voted he'll be back for another year but realistically why would he with Mahomes ,Watson and Jackson taking over the AFC. I think he just doesn't want to flame out knowing the last pass of his career was a pick six.
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I voted he'll be back for another year but realistically why would he with Mahomes ,Watson and Jackson taking over the AFC. I think he just doesn't want to flame out knowing the last pass of his career was a pick six.
Yeah one of those take over guys cannot even win a playoff game as a 1 seed....hard to win playoff games isnt it KC fan?

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I hope Brady stays. But if he doesnít a small part of me will enjoy seeing BB get absolutely exposed next season. Iíd be blown away if the Pats win the division without Tom next year. BB made the decision to stick with Tom over Bledsoe. Thatís huge, and took balls. Outside of that though I believe heís the most overrated coach of all time.
Thats not how it works, and I dont like it said the other way either. Brady leaving at 43 to play for another team and not winning the superbowl does not mean it was all belichick, and Brady leaving and BB not winning the superbowl does not mean it was all Brady. They are two different spots on this team, what they do is not even similar. Now I do think over the years BB paid way more attention to the defense and let Brady and whoever the OC was handle a lot of the offense, that might have to change if Brady leaves.

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These guys will be the ones wearing the fucking stupid half and half jerseys...
Please tell me someone wont do that...I am not a jersey guy, but I have them, and I will always have my Brady jerseys and my jules jersey, etc, regardless of where they play, but no half jerseys.
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I hope Brady stays. But if he doesnít a small part of me will enjoy seeing BB get absolutely exposed next season. Iíd be blown away if the Pats win the division without Tom next year. BB made the decision to stick with Tom over Bledsoe. Thatís huge, and took balls. Outside of that though I believe heís the most overrated coach of all time.

This hurts my brain. BB exposed? As what? Most overrated coach compared to whom?

He and Brady have had a 20 year run, and if not for the punishments levied by Deflategate, this year's team would still be playing. If JG didn't need to step in for Brady during his suspension, he wouldn't have been exposed to the NFL at large, and he'd likely still be on our roster.

and his incompetence did more to hurt this team than anyone else.

Oh, and f*ck the Colts.
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Definitely. Iím not saying heís not good. Or even not great. But everyone acts like Belichick is god. Itís gone to his head, and itís been a problem for years. Itís time for him to retire. Heís blown 90 percent of the first and second round picks the last decade. His game plans the second half of this season have been downright awful, and his personal decisions all year ignored clear problems that were absolutely glaring. His ego is a huge problem. He is not a god, and heís treated as one/acts as though he believes it, and so yes I think heís overrated.

And if Brady doesnít come back this team is absolutely f.... ed
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I agree with you especially from a player development perspective. BB coaching staff has principally been responsible for player development i.e. SCAR-DL/OL, Patricia-D, Judge-ST, Pees-D, O'Brien-OC, McD-OC, etc. BB is suppose to be a D GURU but his real focus is on front 7 and he _or Stevie) has ZERO secondary expertise. Without DB/CB/SSorFS experience Pats this year showed how they wilted late in the season.

As I've previously said, get rid of BB (10M off payroll), bring TFB back, get some decent OL, WRs, TEs, 1 Power Back if Develin is not 100%, new K if Gost is not 100% healthy & consistent, DBs 6'1" that can play M-2-M press coverage and get the hell away from give it all zone coverage. Pats play this way mostly because their D coaching staff does not know how to correctly play that position and BB thinks that small dwarfts can auto-play this position, so how bout we get real!!!

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I voted he'll be back for another year but realistically why would he with Mahomes ,Watson and Jackson taking over the AFC. I think he just doesn't want to flame out knowing the last pass of his career was a pick six.

Jackson was rolled and exposed last night.
One of Mahomes or Watson is going to be exposed next weekend.
I'm really hoping it's Mahomes who 'wins' the right to be wrecked by the Titans. Then you can add Tannehill to your list above, lol.
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Definitely. Iím not saying heís not good. Or even not great. But everyone acts like Belichick is god. Itís gone to his head, and itís been a problem for years. Itís time for him to retire. Heís blown 90 percent of the first and second round picks the last decade. His game plans the second half of this season have been downright awful, and his personal decisions all year ignored clear problems that were absolutely glaring. His ego is a huge problem. He is not a god, and heís treated as one/acts as though he believes it, and so yes I think heís overrated.

And if Brady doesnít come back this team is absolutely f.... ed
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I agree with you especially from a player development perspective. BB coaching staff has principally been responsible for player development i.e. SCAR-DL/OL, Patricia-D, Judge-ST, Pees-D, O'Brien-OC, McD-OC, etc. BB is suppose to be a D GURU but his real focus is on front 7 and he _or Stevie) has ZERO secondary expertise. Without DB/CB/SSorFS experience Pats this year showed how they wilted late in the season.

As I've previously said, get rid of BB (10M off payroll), bring TFB back, get some decent OL, WRs, TEs, 1 Power Back if Develin is not 100%, new K if Gost is not 100% healthy & consistent, DBs 6'1" that can play M-2-M press coverage and get the hell away from give it all zone coverage. Pats play this way mostly because their D coaching staff does not know how to correctly play that position and BB thinks that small dwarfts can auto-play this position, so how bout we get real!!!




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Maybe BB wants the franchise to himself without the legacy of Brady for a few years just to show the world that he IS the reason the franchise has been successful. If he were to get back the the AFCCG with Stidham what would people then say about Brady.
No doubt Brady was great but was he THE reason for the success. Brady would have been a bust in Cleveland, right.
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