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Old 04-12-2019, 09:36 PM   #16
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Brady seemed pretty confident in him when he convinced BB to kick that FG in the Super Bowl.
Just like Welker when he didn't catch passes in the "perfect season" superbowl...

Right?...
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Old 04-12-2019, 09:43 PM   #17
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Oh...I never even mentioned LAST YEAR'S superbowl...

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I mean...if we're all going THERE!...

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He isn't even close to worth what BB is paying him. FACT.
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Oh...I never even mentioned LAST YEAR'S superbowl...

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I mean...if we're all going THERE!...

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He isn't even close to worth what BB is paying him. FACT.
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How so?
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How so?
You said he was overpaid. That's an opinion, not a fact.

He's the 3rd highest paid kicker in the league. He's the 3rd best overall in percentage, not only last year, but over the last 5 years, he's better than that.

Your irrational fascination with him supposedly sucking isn't supported by fact, most opinion, the 'eye test' or pretty much anything other than how you 'feel'.

None of that is fact. It's all opinion, conjecture, and unsupported nonsense.
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You must be his agent...he is good. But, someone that kicks things between two yellow iron tubes for about $5 million a year? Come on...he isnt a fucking warrior or anything. PFFT...
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You must be his agent...he is good. But, someone that kicks things between two yellow iron tubes for about $5 million a year? Come on...he isnt a fucking warrior or anything. PFFT...
Are warriors know for getting paid a lot?
Players get paid for the value of what they do and how well they do it. Like, Brady get 20m+ for throwing a ball. It isn't even round. Ghost kicks the ball better than most others.

But feel free to question BBs valuations. He is know for overpaying.
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Something about this deal makes me think the Pats will be drafting or bringing in a kicker to compete for the job.

Here's the thing. I have no doubt that Ghost wanted a lot more than that...money or years.

Career stats mean nothing to Bill. He's a "what have you done for me lately" kind of guy....and Ghost's playoff performance has been less than stellar....not dreadful, but certainly less than stellar.

Also, field goals are less of an issue than extra points, I think. You don't remember missed field goals except for a few game deciding ones....but damned of those missed extra points don't really stick in your brain. I suspect that there are very few things that piss Bill off more than missed extra points, especially in playoffs.

I don't know...this deal smacks of "the devil you know" to me. Feels like an insurance policy more than a commitment.

Much of this could be me projecting my own bias, too.
I think its just BB being cautious. Why give an aging kicker a long term deal if he doest have to?
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I think if the kicker from LSU is available late in the draft, BB will take him. If he performs well enough, Ghost may be trade bait for a kicker needy team. We have signed guys just to trade them before. High profile guys.
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I think if the kicker from LSU is available late in the draft, BB will take him. If he performs well enough, Ghost may be trade bait for a kicker needy team. We have signed guys just to trade them before. High profile guys.
That kicker you mentioned will definitely be available "late in the draft" and I seriously doubt we'll draft him even though we have a bucket full of late picks.

The reason for that is simple. The kid had one good year and remains totally, thoroughly unproven.

So why would Bill see fit to trade a guy that is extremely proven, battle-tested, consistent and is the most skilled KO guy in the league?

He wouldn't. Won't.

I'll echo others here because I just don't get why so many Patriots fans are down on Gostkowski. It mystifies me. EVERYBODY misses kicks. Stephen does is far less than just about anybody in modern football history and has drilled plenty of high-pressure/key kicks.

And you want to go with a rookie?

Beats the shit out of me.
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Are warriors know for getting paid a lot?
Players get paid for the value of what they do and how well they do it. Like, Brady get 20m+ for throwing a ball. It isn't even round. Ghost kicks the ball better than most others.

But feel free to question BBs valuations. He is know for overpaying.
BB doesn't trust him all that much. I don't know why anyone would think otherwise. He wasn't signed until a few days ago. Why werent there other teams rushing to overpay for him? BB knows that he is a decent kicker. BB knows that there isn't much competition for him either for whatever reason. I don't think that BB would have lost any sleep if some other team signed him instead.
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