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Old 05-19-2017, 05:44 AM   #136
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Check out this headline/story from Forbes. This is WHY the NFL needs this to go away quickly ...

Gisele Bündchen Casts Doubt On Adequacy Of NFL Concussion Protocol
https://www.forbes.com/sites/leeigel.../#2b5d076732e0
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Old 05-19-2017, 06:59 AM   #137
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NFL spokesman on Tom Brady: "We have reviewed all reports relating to Tom Brady from the unaffiliated neurotrauma consultants and certified athletic trainer spotters who worked at Patriots' home and away 2016 season games as well as club injury reports that were sent to the league office. .... There are no records that indicate that Mr. Brady suffered a head injury or concussion, or exhibited or complained of concussion symptoms. Today we have been in contact with the NFLPA and will work together to gather more information from the club's medical staff and Mr. Brady. The health and safety of our players is our foremost priority and we want to ensure that all our players have and continue to receive the best care possible."
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NFL spokesman on Tom Brady: "We have reviewed all reports relating to Tom Brady from the unaffiliated neurotrauma consultants and certified athletic trainer spotters who worked at Patriots' home and away 2016 season games as well as club injury reports that were sent to the league office. .... There are no records that indicate that Mr. Brady suffered a head injury or concussion, or exhibited or complained of concussion symptoms. Today we have been in contact with the NFLPA and will work together to gather more information from the club's medical staff and Mr. Brady. The health and safety of our players is our foremost priority and we want to ensure that all our players have and continue to receive the best care possible."
If this doesn't raise concern then we didn't learn a thing.
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Old 05-19-2017, 08:33 AM   #139
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NFL spokesman on Tom Brady: "We have reviewed all reports relating to Tom Brady from the unaffiliated neurotrauma consultants and certified athletic trainer spotters who worked at Patriots' home and away 2016 season games as well as club injury reports that were sent to the league office. .... There are no records that indicate that Mr. Brady suffered a head injury or concussion, or exhibited or complained of concussion symptoms. Today we have been in contact with the NFLPA and will work together to gather more information from the club's medical staff and Mr. Brady. The health and safety of our players is our foremost priority and we want to ensure that all our players have and continue to receive the best care possible."
They issued that statement a few days ago. IMHO, they are just playing up to the media and they just want this to go away.

The big difference from the other discussed cases, Sherman and Bell, is that those idiots admitted they were hurt. Without medical documentation, or someone from the training staff saying something, there's no way to know that Brady may have been concussed. It's highly doubtful that Brady will admit to it.

This will be in the rear view mirror by next week.
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Old 05-19-2017, 08:34 AM   #140
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Random concussion testing for players is coming a la random drug testing.
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Old 05-19-2017, 10:00 AM   #141
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They issued that statement a few days ago. IMHO, they are just playing up to the media and they just want this to go away.

The big difference from the other discussed cases, Sherman and Bell, is that those idiots admitted they were hurt. Without medical documentation, or someone from the training staff saying something, there's no way to know that Brady may have been concussed. It's highly doubtful that Brady will admit to it.

This will be in the rear view mirror by next week.
And?

What if...

What if the powers, and I use that term only in title, that be decide the opinion of a spouse is enough cause for concern to dig a bit deeper and they simply request all communications.

Here we go again...
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Random concussion testing for players is coming a la random drug testing.
They really have to do something as relying on the players to say anything is proving futile. And this truly is the ONE issue that effects the leagues bottom line both in terms of the law suits and players retiring early or not even deciding to play football at all.

Despite the hysteria from some of the folks thinking the league will somehow try to punish the Pats over this, I see this as Brady's ultimate thumb in the eye as this is a PR bombshell for the league to manage and really if he wanted, he could really milk this and talk about the hits he has taken and how the league "independent doctors" did not even check him out despite Clowney and others pummeling him the entire post-season. How he felt woosy but was unable on his own to determine if he was Ok but being a football player, he want back in because he is the toughest competitor the sport has ever known, yada, yada, yada.
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And?

What if...

What if the powers, and I use that term only in title, that be decide the opinion of a spouse is enough cause for concern to dig a bit deeper and they simply request all communications.

Here we go again...
I don't think you're giving Dr. Bundchen the proper respect here.
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OPT posted something about this. The team does have to report injuries even if no practice is missed.

This ends like this:

- "Tom, we'd like your phone."
TB12-"No."
- "OK, then. Four games suspension as the precedent has already been set. Actually, make it six since you are a repeat offender. The 31 thank you for your non-cooperation."
Hopefully by now, he knows enough to have two phones. One for him, and one to give to the league.

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You are just inviting a whole lot of pain in terms of concussion protocol next year
Yep. I'm guessing after the first big hit, the league orders Brady to come out of the game, and be checked by the doctor.
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I don't think you're giving Dr. Bundchen the proper respect here.
I've called her multiple times trying to schedule my prostate exam.

Is it normal in booking an exam to get yelled at in broken English with a touch of Portuguese curse words I presume thrown in?
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Yep. I'm guessing after the first big hit, the league orders Brady to come out of the game, and be checked by the doctor.
He did previously. The league can take the team issued at any point. It's their property.

DG hinged around his personal phone, which they said they had all relevant comms and only blew up when he disclosed he'd had it destroyed as usual.
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He did previously. The league can take the team issued at any point. It's their property.

DG hinged around his personal phone, which they said they had all relevant comms and only blew up when he disclosed he'd had it destroyed as usual.
No two private phones, one he doesn't share, a burner phone... and one by a local carrier that can be traced.


I think any celeb should have a burner.
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They issued that statement a few days ago. IMHO, they are just playing up to the media and they just want this to go away.

The big difference from the other discussed cases, Sherman and Bell, is that those idiots admitted they were hurt. Without medical documentation, or someone from the training staff saying something, there's no way to know that Brady may have been concussed. It's highly doubtful that Brady will admit to it.

This will be in the rear view mirror by next week.
I mentioned this earlier and I hope I'm wrong. But with this:
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I hear: "Well, the league is cleared, so we'll have to go after Tom and the Pats. What else can you do??? Player safety, integrity, etc"



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They had the underinflated footballs in their possession as "proof", all they have here is Giselle running her trap, they're going to need a bit more proof than that fortunately.
There was a reason they wouldn't measure the balls after letting them warm up to room temperature.
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