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Old 03-11-2016, 11:00 AM   #16
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This guy is really a bright bulb.....coming from PatsFans...where all Attorneys and Professors unite in complete circle jerk unity.

Let's get the real facts about this list of hubris

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Clearly you don't know wtf you are talking about. A 7th grader has proven what the NFL couldn't figure out. That it was the WEATHER that deflated the balls. hell, if you look at the results in the Wells report, their results show it to be the weather.

Your claims of there being a scheme are what lack integrity. Just like the NFL lacks integrity. This has been a failed witch hunt from day 1.

In fact, the reality is that the COLTS were the ones who tampered with the Intercepted ball. If you know all the NFL Rules so well, you'd know that ONLY game officials are allowed to measure the footballs. Yet, you had someone from the Colts measure it before they went and got the NFL to "report" it. Yet, it's also come out from Troy Vincent that the NFL had planned to check the balls at half-time regardless. OOPS..
Oh. And Tom Brady's stats in the 2nd half of the game were better than the 1st half.

So, let's rehash.
Jastremski was at the back of the officials locker-room waiting for the time to go out to the field. He leaves, walking passed all the game officials as well as the NFL Commissioner's office brass who are there at the game. Yet none of them actually stop him and tell him he can't leave yet.
Jastremski stops at the bathroom for 90 seconds then takes the balls down to the field level.
The temperature inside the officials locker room is a balmy 70. The temperature on the field at game time was 49 degrees and raining.
The NFL takes and measures the 11 remaining Patriots balls and claims that they were all 2 pounds under proper inflation. The NFL only measures 4 of the Colts game balls and claim they are fine.
The NFL officials inflate the Patriots balls back to within the rules
Tom Brady has a better second half than first half
League leaks that 11 of the 12 balls Patriots balls were under-inflated and that the Colts balls were fine.
League orders Wells to investigate.
League already had taken custody of phones from Jastremski and McNally.
Wells tells Brady he needs to see phone. Tom's lawyer says "No Way". Wells says, fine. I don't need it. Just give me text info.
Patriots told that numbers released were false, but told they can't say anything until Wells report released.
League punishes Pats despite claiming they found no fault with the team.
League punishes Brady for scheme. No mention of cell phone as part of "Conduct Detrimental"
Brady Appeals.
declares that HE will handle appeal. Refuses to recuse himself. Refuses to allow notes to be turned over to Brady's lawyers. Refuses to allow Pash to testify despite it being learned that Pash edited Wells Report.
changes stance from "more probable than not" to "Brady orchestrated scheme". ignores mountains of scientific evidence that shows otherwise.
League files with court to uphold judgement.
League tells court that it has no right to over-turn arbitrator.
League loses.
League Appeals.

So, no. It was not a Brady scheme. It was simple science called the Ideal Gas Law. And it was a hatchet job by the league to get back at Brady for being the primary named Defendant when the NFLPA took the league to court prior to the last CBA being signed.. Because, yes, is THAT much of slimy bastard.
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Clearly you don't know wtf you are talking about. A 7th grader has proven what the NFL couldn't figure out. That it was the WEATHER that deflated the balls. hell, if you look at the results in the Wells report, their results show it to be the weather.

Ideal Gas Law, meaning under ideal conditions……..you can’t recreate the Foxboro conditions in someone’s backyard even though the results may appear to support.

Your claims of there being a scheme are what lack integrity. Just like the NFL lacks integrity. This has been a failed witch hunt from day 1.

In fact, the reality is that the COLTS were the ones who tampered with the Intercepted ball. If you know all the NFL Rules so well, you'd know that ONLY game officials are allowed to measure the footballs. Yet, you had someone from the Colts measure it before they went and got the NFL to "report" it. Yet, it's also come out from Troy Vincent that the NFL had planned to check the balls at half-time regardless. OOPS..
Oh. And Tom Brady's stats in the 2nd half of the game were better than the 1st half.

Um, they intercepted a ball back earlier in the season and it felt light. They tested it after the game and it was underinflated…..they didn’t test the ball during the AFCC game…wow this was a simple refute.


So, let's rehash.

•Jastremski (Wrong - McNally) was at the back of the officials locker-room waiting for the time to go out to the field. He leaves, walking passed all the game officials as well as the NFL Commissioner's office brass who are there at the game. Yet none of them actually stop him and tell him he can't leave yet.
o This doesn’t mean what he did was right, in fact this is beyond reasonable doubt fact #1 and breach of gameday protocol #1

•Jastremski (Wrong - McNally) stops at the bathroom for 90 seconds then takes the balls down to the field level.
o This is breach of protocol #2, and fact of a scheme beyond a reasonable doubt #2

•The temperature inside the officials locker room is a balmy 70. The temperature on the field at game time was 49 degrees and raining.
o Ideal Gas Law works but every pseudo scientist can't replicate the exact conditions of that day.

•The NFL takes and measures the 11 remaining Patriots balls and claims that they were all 2 pounds under proper inflation. The NFL only measures 4 of the Colts game balls and claim they are fine.
o Claim as you may, they measure them and mark them with a pen as indicated by the Fat **** Peter King in his 2013 Officials Game Day video. http://mmqb.si.com/2013/12/06/peter-...rew-part-three That is the standard, logging them in a book? Why? Because NE was doing this for some time and they didn’t realize it?

•The NFL officials inflate the Patriots balls back to within the rules
o The NFL found a few balls to be too low and re-inflated to the proper protocol, also shown in Peter King’s 2013 Officials Game Day Video.

•Tom Brady has a better second half than first half
o Meaningless info which doesn’t disprove the 2 earlier breach of protocols

•League leaks that 11 of the 12 balls Patriots balls were under-inflated and that the Colts balls were fine.

•League orders Wells to investigate.

•League already had taken custody of phones from Jastremski and McNally.
o During in which the interviews with Wells the stories were a contradictatory, especially McNally and the calls for repeated interviews as follow ups were rebuffed by the Patriots Legal Dept., after fulling telling the league they would 100% comply and participate in the investigation. Here we have obstruction and a fact of a scheme beyond a reasonable doubt #3

•Wells tells Brady he needs to see phone. Tom's lawyer says "No Way". Wells says, fine. I don't need it. Just give me text info.
o Tom Never provided the texts to the phone he later had destroyed the phone day of the Wells interview. That day Wells didn’t know the phone was destroyed, but settled for the texts. He got the transcripts of the names and dates except for 3 other calls/texts. This was learned in the appeal that Tom did in fact obstruct the NFL in obtaining data by admitting this. This is a fact beyond a reasonable doubt #4

•Patriots told that numbers released were false, but told they can't say anything until Wells report released.
o NFL has cause of the entirety of the evidence, NGL included per Wells report stating of inconclusive due to the factors of JJ and JM and what is expounded in the next point.

•League punishes Pats despite claiming they found no fault with the team.
[/B]o League refutes that they suspended JJ and JM. But one must consider the language and policy change used post spygate 2008, that heavier penalties for cheating will be imposed in a “less burden of proof” language as in civil cases. As stated: [/B]

o The NFL’s investigation was conducted in accordance with the NFL’s Policy on Integrity of the Game & Enforcement of Competitive Rules. Under that policy, the standard of proof required to find a violation is the “preponderance of the evidence” standard, which essentially means, as quoted above, that “as a whole, the fact sought to be proved is more probable than not.

•League punishes Brady for scheme. No mention of cell phone as part of "Conduct Detrimental"
The league policy in the Standard Player Contract states that any player under signage can be willfully suspended for acts deemed Conduct detrimental to the game. Clause 14 and 15 in the Standard Player Contract where #15 states the following (which incidentally is all the Notice Brady needs under current business practice of all NFL policies and CBA, Article 46 etc.
 15. INTEGRITY OF GAME.

Player recognizes the detriment to the League and professional football that would result from impairment of public confidence in the honest and orderly conduct of NFL games or the integrity and good character of NFL players. Player therefore acknowledges his awareness that if he accepts a bribe or agrees to throw or fix an NFL game; fails to promptly report a bribe offer or an attempt to throw or fix an NFL game; bets on an NFL game; knowingly associates with gamblers or gambling activity; uses or provides other players with stimulants or other drugs for the purpose of attempting to enhance on-field performance; or is guilty of any other form of conduct reasonably judged by the League Commissioner to be detrimental to the League or professional football, the Commissioner will have the right, but only after giving Player the opportunity for a hearing at which he may be represented by counsel of his choice, to fine Player in a reasonable amount, to suspend Player for a period certain or indefinitely; and/or to terminate this contract.

•Brady Appeals.

declares that HE will handle appeal. Refuses to recuse himself. Refuses to allow notes to be turned over to Brady's lawyers. Refuses to allow Pash to testify despite it being learned that Pash edited Wells Report.
o Pash is internal counsel and is not required to be called as witness, since he is league and the league has to release the league document, Pash is under normal standard policy to make edits.

o Article 46 and the Language of the CBA state is Judge, Jury and Head Man In Charge of Anything. Players voted that ‘little issue away’ in exchanged for more profit sharing. 31 Teams voted on the CBA ratification. My team was the lone dissenter.

changes stance from "more probable than not" to "Brady orchestrated scheme". ignores mountains of scientific evidence that shows otherwise.
o Day before Brady’s appeal, the NFL learns from Kessler that the data needed from the cell phone Brady wouldn’t turn over, has been destroyed around the time it was requested for Wells. The actual texts missing lined up with JJ and JM’s texts except for a few, which to this day we do not know what they were. The thinking and rational man can see that something was covered up by Brady here. This is why ’s language in the appeal changed. This reeks of obstruction and cover up. Hence, even though could have suspended him longer, only kept the original 4 games as the standing penalty.

•League files with court to uphold judgement.

•League tells court that it has no right to over-turn arbitrator.

•League loses.
o Berman, who’s character has been impeccable, was seen with Kraft at a party just days later in the Hamptons.

o Also this little nugget. Bart Hubbuch ‏@BartHubbuch 9m9 minutes ago
Interesting factual nugget: Richard Berman's former law-firm colleague Stephen Case is on Columbia's BOT Emeriti with ... Robert Kraft.

o Berman’s wife also works at a college in New England where Kraft once sat on board. I think the fix was in on the appeal decision because Berman totally went against what the NFL had the right to do and they proved their case of notice, fairness and what the rules say for conduct detrimental.

•League Appeals.

So, no. It was not a Brady scheme. It was simple science called the Ideal Gas Law. And it was a hatchet job by the league to get back at Brady for being the primary named Defendant when the NFLPA took the league to court prior to the last CBA being signed.. Because, yes, is THAT much of slimy bastard.

Simple Science cannot conclude something was amiss and I do believe in the IGL, but the Pats made sure their activities were easily explainable by it. The total evidence states otherwise.

Try again Bruinz, better yet go back with your arian bretheren at PF.com
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Old 03-11-2016, 11:15 AM   #18
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Let me expound more on McNally trip to the "urinal"

•Jastremski (Wrong - McNally) stops at the bathroom for 90 seconds then takes the balls down to the field level.
o This is breach of protocol #2, and fact of a scheme beyond a reasonable doubt #2. McNally lied to Wells during his interviews as they didn't match up with his earlier interviews with NFL ops officials post game. Further lost in this was that McNally also had the colts balls with him
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You should go back and read because your "facts" are about 99% incorrect and have already been refuted legally.

Fvcking idiot.

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Also, ANYONE THAT READS BART HUBBUCH IS THE BIGGEST ****ING MORON ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

So, I guess that would include you. But we didn't need to know you read Bart to know that anyway.

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Oh, and lastly, what you call "evidence" is not actually evidence, nor does it encompass what the term "evidence" means legally.

There was no evidence. Zero.
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99% incorrect?
Woman of insane mind and loose lips??

Really....I'm waiting for your rebuttal.

You're saying everything i wrote is garbage. Wow...... insanity at it's finest.

I quoted standards and factual information on why the guilt was proven?
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99% incorrect?
Woman of insane mind and loose lips??

Really....I'm waiting for your rebuttal.

You're saying everything i wrote is garbage. Wow...... insanity at it's finest.

I quoted standards and factual information on why the guilt was proven?
You've quoted garbage. And I'm not going to refute your garbage.

Bart Hubbuch

Idiot.
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The NFL burden of proof is not based on Criminal Trial standards, just Civil

This is not a criminal proceeding.

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You've quoted garbage. And I'm not going to refute your garbage.

Bart Hubbuch

Idiot.
Bart Hubbach reported one thing about Berman which was true.

Yet you're going to take a powder and call me nuts over that.

Stop sucking on Brady's clit
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Oh, and Ideal Gas Law does not mean "ideal" conditions. When was the last time you started your shitbox up in the winter and it told you your air pressure was low? Or maybe they don't have a computer in your 1989 Ford wagon.

Temperature goes down, air within an object compresses.
Temperature goes up, air within an object expands.

Even an idiot can understand that concept. Except you. Which makes you less than an idiot...it makes you an imbecile.

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The NFL burden of proof is not based on Criminal Trial standards, just Civil

This is not a criminal proceeding.

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Bart Hubbach reported one thing about Berman which was true.

Yet you're going to take a powder and call me nuts over that.

Stop sucking on Brady's clit
You're a disgusting pig.

And don't try to enlighten me on law. I've got 35 years into it.
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My Maserati Goes 185 and the Pirelli's are simply fine.

I'm enlightining you on your fantasy about the NFL Laws....you're hanging by a thread

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Then you failed at reading what the NFL laws were. Tom didn't kill anyone.

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Can i have ImAPig's avatar if I'm a pig

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http://www.robertblecker.com/deflate...e-smoking-gun/

DeflateGate: The Smoking Gun
August 19, 2015
THE CROOKED CASE AGAINST TOM BRADY: WHAT’S WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE?

The NFL insists that science alone cannot explain the Patriots’ pressure drop.

Therefore the ball attendant must have deflated them — and quarterback Tom Brady must have known.Gauges

Much depends on which gauge the referee actually used to measure the balls pre-game. The referee remembers using his longer-needled (LOGO) gauge. But the “independent” investigator/consultants rejected the referee’s recollection.

Do the gauges resemble each other so much that the referee would mis-remember which he used?

gauges2



THE SMOKING GUN

How much longer exactly is the longer needle? See for yourself. Examine the independent consultant’s own close-up: What do the rulers tell your eyes?

Look again. (Yes, they shifted one ruler .2” to deflate the difference!) The longer, LOGO gauge needle really measures TWICE AS LONG as the shorter one.

Would an experienced referee who used one of these gauges 24 times that day, mistake it for the other?

But wait! There’s another trick in this optical illusion: Are the needles both “slightly bent” as Exponent’s caption suggests?

Or did the “independent” investigator/consultants earn their millions by shooting a photograph specifically to eliminate the greater bend of the longer needle? This further deflates the difference. Look carefully. The truth lurks in the shadow.

How could these sophisticated scientific/engineering PhD statisticians with all their complex simulations and graphs somehow misalign two simple rulers? Accident — or con job?

Once you credit the referee’s memory here, and reject one other pseudo-scientific piece of twisted logic, science can fully explain the entire pressure drop.

Leaked mis-information, implausible assumptions and daring distortions obscure the truth.

Deflategate is a sham — an NFL cooked-up fraud. So who cheated: The quarterback or the League?
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Anyway, you're boring me now with your stupidity, so have a lovely time while you're down here in jail.

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What about Jim McNally? People ignore he broke protocol twice and lied about it
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The Patriots voluntarily offered the video of McNally to the NFL.

Some cover-up.
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Liars and cheaters usually try to blame others when they get caught doing what they shouldn't, so the enlist armies of propaganda and legal folks to disprove that the earth is round.
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The Patriots voluntarily offered the video of McNally to the NFL.

Some cover-up.
Yes they had to......it's the only room not being filmed with a video camera? Now why is that? Every inch of the Razor is under camera view. Did you realize that?

They figured if they produced nothing.......then yet another strike. Just go deep down and see that you root for an evil empire.
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