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Old 04-06-2015, 01:19 PM   #16
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Of course it does. Every additional person that gets the report exponentially increases the chances of it leaking to the public. You can't honestly think that 32 owners are all going to keep it a secret?

No matter what the report says, some owners are going to want it released because of what it proves/disproves. They is zero chance they all get their hands on it and all keep it to themselves.
We'll agree to disagree. I 100% believe Wells works for the NFL and his report will be handed to in person. When he and have gone over the findings, Wells' job is done. When chooses to release the report is up to him. As with the Ray Rice thing, will likely have a Friday afternoon presser when he is good and ready, TMZ or no TMZ.
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Old 04-06-2015, 01:23 PM   #17
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We'll agree to disagree. I 100% believe Wells works for the NFL and his report will be handed to in person. When he and have gone over the findings, Wells' job is done. When chooses to release the report is up to him. As with the Ray Rice thing, will likely have a Friday afternoon presser when he is good and ready, TMZ or no TMZ.
You're confusing issues. There was no report on Ray Rice back when had his famous Friday press conference (the Mueller report would come out 17 weeks later). 's press conference was in response to TMZ, which I assume you'll agree the NFL has no control over.

has 32 bosses that are going to want to see that report. It won't even take a full hour for word to get out that the report has been completed and those 32 men are going to want to see it.

EDIT: Furthermore, the public pressure will be beyond enormous. Fans will not tolerate sitting on this thing either.

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Old 04-06-2015, 02:06 PM   #18
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You're confusing issues. There was no report on Ray Rice back when had his famous Friday press conference (the Mueller report would come out 17 weeks later). 's press conference was in response to TMZ, which I assume you'll agree the NFL has no control over.

has 32 bosses that are going to want to see that report. It won't even take a full hour for word to get out that the report has been completed and those 32 men are going to want to see it.

EDIT: Furthermore, the public pressure will be beyond enormous. Fans will not tolerate sitting on this thing either.
TMZ's tape hit the internet Sept 8. 's presser was Friday Sept. 19.

I'm not confused one bit. waited til he was good and ready (and probably after he consulted a few owners & lawyers) to have his presser.

Now, let me ask you, if you owned the Colts, wouldn't you want to know what was in the Wells Report before your fans did? I mean, if the Colts were incriminated, wouldn't you want a few days to prepare your spin control? Yes you would and had better keep his employers happy.
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TMZ's tape hit the internet Sept 8. 's presser was Friday Sept. 19.

I'm not confused one bit. waited til he was good and ready (and probably after he consulted a few owners & lawyers) to have his presser.
I am not talking about if/when is going to have a press conference to discuss the report. I'm taking about the report itself. He has hardly any real control over that.
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Now, let me ask you, if you owned the Colts, wouldn't you want to know what was in the Wells Report before your fans did? I mean, if the Colts were incriminated, wouldn't you want a few days to prepare your spin control? Yes you would and had better keep his employers happy.
That may be what the Colts scumbag owner wants.

So let me pose a similar question: if you owned the Patriots and you just got a .pdf which completely exonerated you, wouldn't you leak it to a Schefter or Florio? Patriots would do that in a heartbeat, just like how they slammed the Kelly Naqi report way back.

Like I said.... No matter what the Wells Report concludes, some owner is going to want to get it out there ASAP.

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I am not talking about if/when is going to have a press conference to discuss the report. I'm taking about the report itself. He has hardly any real control over that.
That may be what the Colts scumbag owner wants.

So let me pose a similar question: if you owned the Patriots and you just got a .pdf which completely exonerated you, wouldn't you leak it to a Schefter or Florio? Patriots would do that in a heartbeat, just like how they slammed the Kelly Naqi report way back.

Like I said.... No matter what the Wells Report concludes, some owner is going to want to get it out there ASAP.

Who do think controls the release of the Wells report if /NFL doesn't?
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Who do think controls the release of the Wells report if /NFL doesn't?
You asked me that exact same question several hours ago. My answer has not changed.

Furthermore, even if it is something the NFL has control over, you seem not to realize that "the NFL" is a conglomeration of 32 entities plus the league office. All those parties are going to want to see the report, and there is absolutely ZERO chance it remains under wraps for any prolonged period of time.

We will all see the report in full shortly after it is released.
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You asked me that exact same question several hours ago. My answer has not changed.

Furthermore, even if it is something the NFL has control over, you seem not to realize that "the NFL" is a conglomeration of 32 entities plus the league office. All those parties are going to want to see the report, and there is absolutely ZERO chance it remains under wraps Huhhhh any prolonged period of time.h6g
We will all see the report in shortly it is released.
Roger can ask to review the report prior to release and have a team of lawyers stall the release unto a time he wants it let out.
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Roger can ask to review the report prior to release and have a team of lawyers stall the release unto a time he wants it let out.
You have got to be kidding me. knows who he works for. Do you honestly believe he is going to gather a team of lawyers to keep this report out of the hands of the people who hired him, sign his paycheck (figuratively speaking), and can fire him whenever they darn well please?

People, join us in the real world here. works for the owners, not vice-versa. Those 32 men (I'm including the GM of GB in that total) are not going to sit idly by an twiddle their thumbs if has the report and refuses to share it with them. He may have an hour or so to prepare a press release. He will not have anything significantly longer than that.

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You asked me that exact same question several hours ago. My answer has not changed.

Furthermore, even if it is something the NFL has control over, you seem not to realize that "the NFL" is a conglomeration of 32 entities plus the league office. All those parties are going to want to see the report, and there is absolutely ZERO chance it remains under wraps for any prolonged period of time.

We will all see the report in full shortly after it is released.
Wells? I doubt he was given any authority to release anything to any entity other than to the entity that hired him. That would be in my mind.
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Wells? I doubt he was given any authority to release anything to any entity other than to the entity that hired him. That would be in my mind.
The NFL hired him. is not the NFL. He has people he needs to answer to - 32 of 'em, in fact.

There is zero chance gets this report and keeps it away from his bosses for anything longer than maybe the hour it'll take to whip up a quickie press release.

The NFL released the Incognito report and Mueller Report in full on the same day they were completed. Why anyone thinks the deflategate report will be any different remains a mystery.
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Roger can ask to review the report prior to release and have a team of lawyers stall the release unto a time he wants it let out.
That is exactly why I want Congress to look into the Punk the NFL has become with threatening the NFL tax exempt policy if the NFL buries the truth, if there really is a conspiracy going on
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The NFL hired him. is not the NFL. He has people he needs to answer to - 32 of 'em, in fact.

There is zero chance gets this report and keeps it away from his bosses for anything longer than maybe the hour it'll take to whip up a quickie press release.

The NFL released the Incognito report and Mueller Report in full on the same day they were completed. Why anyone thinks the deflategate report will be any different remains a mystery.
Theoretically, you're correct, that he has owners he has to answer to. However, this report will sit in his hands for substantially longer than an hour. Once he gets the report, whatever it says, he will have to ponder pennances for whoever is listed as responsible, whether the Patriots, Grigson, Ken sil, Irsay, whoever. That will not come without much aforethought and could take days. Once the punishments are decided upon, the report will come out.
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Theoretically, you're correct, that he has owners he has to answer to. However, this report will sit in his hands for substantially longer than an hour. Once he gets the report, whatever it says, he will have to ponder pennances for whoever is listed as responsible, whether the Patriots, Grigson, Ken sil, Irsay, whoever. That will not come without much aforethought and could take days. Once the punishments are decided upon, the report will come out.
There is no way the owners of the NFL (not to mention the fans) will be happy to hear that the report is finally done but oh gee, you still have to wait. Also, I don't see why he has to have punishments ready to go prior to releasing the report.

History is on my side here with the first Wells Report (Incognito) and the Mueller Report (Ray Rice).
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There is no way the owners of the NFL (not to mention the fans) will be happy to hear that the report is finally done but oh gee, you still have to wait. Also, I don't see why he has to have punishments ready to go prior to releasing the report.

History is on my side here with the first Wells Report (Incognito) and the Mueller Report (Ray Rice).
History is on your side here? Really?

Do you think Deflategate is anything like Bullygate or Ray Rice?

The only thing these three events have in common is that the league investigated them.

Wells II has been ongoing for about 10 weeks now. Do you think the owners are going to have a major problem if their Commissioner takes some time to decide punishment?... and in the process actually get it right?

I doubt it.
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History is on your side here? Really?
Yes. We have seen 2 independent investigations in the past year or so and both of them released reports to the league and the public on the exact same day. Why anyone thinks this will be any different is a total mystery.
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Do you think Deflategate is anything like Bullygate or Ray Rice?
I think the process by which an independent investigator was hired to investigate the situation and report to the league - and the public - is virtually identical.

You may not have noticed, but the guy who investigated and reported on "Bullygate" is the same guy doing this investigation.
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The only thing these three events have in common is that the league investigated them.

Wells II has been ongoing for about 10 weeks now. Do you think the owners are going to have a major problem if their Commissioner takes some time to decide punishment?... and in the process actually get it right?
Of course not. In fact, I think we can all safely assume the Commissioner will take some time to decide punishment.

But where is it written that they cannot release the report in the meantime? That is something owners will have a major problem with. Do you think Bob Kraft is just going to sit idly by after the report has been completed and have no problem waiting another couple weeks? Gimme a break.
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