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Old 05-19-2017, 06:17 PM   #16
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By the time it opens will LA even care about having pro football franchises in the city any longer?
Do they even care now?


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Old 05-19-2017, 06:28 PM   #17
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Good question! Friends in SoCal are already bummed that broadcasts will be filled with Rams and Chargers games. They have been spoiled now with years of prime choices of the best match ups each week.
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Good question! Friends in SoCal are already bummed that broadcasts will be filled with Rams and Chargers games. They have been spoiled now with years of prime choices of the best match ups each week.
Wonder if Vegas may be the same once the Raiders arrive?

Unless the franchises are contenders, I have my doubts as to whether they will draw the crowds in.
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Pretty much. Northern stadiums don't get Super Bowls if they don't have a dome, if then. There is a geographical bias on who gets the game, but it's easy to see why.
There was an incident that took place in 1982 in Detroit which hosted Super Bowl 16 at the still-new Silverdome.

Detroit had been hit by some bad winter weather and there was a lot of snow on the city streets. The NFL had been facing some criticism for allowing the game to take place there and one of the things they did in order to generate some entertainment value for the customers was to organize a "pub crawl" using buses.

Anyhow, during one of these sanctioned events a drunken fan somehow fell through the rear door of a bus without being noticed and landed in a deep snowbank, passed out and froze to death.

The way I recall it, there were statements out of the league that there would never be another cold weather SB as a result of the negative publicity and it was a really big deal at the time.

However, try googling the incident and you will find NOTHING. Like it was scrubbed from history by the NFL. And it was many years before a northern city hosted after that.

I bring this up as something that I'm simply curious about, because I'm sure that it did take place, but I've never heard it cited when the discussion of cold weather Super Bowls takes place.

Anyone remember this happening?
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There was an incident that took place in 1982 in Detroit which hosted Super Bowl 16 at the still-new Silverdome.

Detroit had been hit by some bad winter weather and there was a lot of snow on the city streets. The NFL had been facing some criticism for allowing the game to take place there and one of the things they did in order to generate some entertainment value for the customers was to organize a "pub crawl" using buses.

Anyhow, during one of these sanctioned events a drunken fan somehow fell through the rear door of a bus without being noticed and landed in a deep snowbank, passed out and froze to death.

The way I recall it, there were statements out of the league that there would never be another cold weather SB as a result of the negative publicity and it was a really big deal at the time.

However, try googling the incident and you will find NOTHING. Like it was scrubbed from history by the NFL. And it was many years before a northern city hosted after that.

I bring this up as something that I'm simply curious about, because I'm sure that it did take place, but I've never heard it cited when the discussion of cold weather Super Bowls takes place.

Anyone remember this happening?
The NFL sent Marty and Doc Brown back to prevent that little incident. Their next trip is to prevent Bill Belichick's parents from ever meeting.
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Old 05-21-2017, 10:42 AM   #21
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#2 in attendance, with a 4-12 team.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...attendance.htm
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California complaining about a huge rain shortage 2 years ago Now there stadium delayed because they got 2 much rain
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Old 05-21-2017, 02:03 PM   #23
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California complaining about a huge rain shortage 2 years ago Now there stadium delayed because they got 2 much rain
I would imagine the problem was just the stage of the process they were at. If you're finishing a building and it's raining, not a problem. If you're digging a hole and the hole keeps filling with rain...

I'm also curious as to how much of delay it really is. The opening was delayed by a year, but was the actual delay a year, or was it a month or two, meaning it wouldn't be ready for opening day 2019, and therefore not ready for 2019.
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There was an incident that took place in 1982 in Detroit which hosted Super Bowl 16 at the still-new Silverdome.

Detroit had been hit by some bad winter weather and there was a lot of snow on the city streets. The NFL had been facing some criticism for allowing the game to take place there and one of the things they did in order to generate some entertainment value for the customers was to organize a "pub crawl" using buses.

Anyhow, during one of these sanctioned events a drunken fan somehow fell through the rear door of a bus without being noticed and landed in a deep snowbank, passed out and froze to death.

The way I recall it, there were statements out of the league that there would never be another cold weather SB as a result of the negative publicity and it was a really big deal at the time.

However, try googling the incident and you will find NOTHING. Like it was scrubbed from history by the NFL. And it was many years before a northern city hosted after that.

I bring this up as something that I'm simply curious about, because I'm sure that it did take place, but I've never heard it cited when the discussion of cold weather Super Bowls takes place.

Anyone remember this happening?
It's probably in the dark/deep web...where all of the things that they don't want exposed go.
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#2 in attendance, with a 4-12 team.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...attendance.htm
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#2 in attendance, with a 4-12 team.

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To be completely fair, that place seats 90+ thousand, and the tickets weren't the most expensive.

Remember the Raiders used to have to put down tarps so they could have sellouts when they played there - and the Raiders were good (for most of it).
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To be completely fair, that place seats 90+ thousand, and the tickets weren't the most expensive.

Remember the Raiders used to have to put down tarps so they could have sellouts when they played there - and the Raiders were good (for most of it).
Works out to an average of 83,164 for each home game.

LA and Dallas were the only teams averaging over 80,000. There's just not a lot of demand for stadiums that big in the NFL.

And, of course, the Raiders first year in Oakland had about the same attendance numbers as their last year in LA (when everyone knew they were leaving). And their second year in Oakland was lower. And last year, they tried to come back. LOL.

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There was an incident that took place in 1982 in Detroit which hosted Super Bowl 16 at the still-new Silverdome.

Detroit had been hit by some bad winter weather and there was a lot of snow on the city streets. The NFL had been facing some criticism for allowing the game to take place there and one of the things they did in order to generate some entertainment value for the customers was to organize a "pub crawl" using buses.

Anyhow, during one of these sanctioned events a drunken fan somehow fell through the rear door of a bus without being noticed and landed in a deep snowbank, passed out and froze to death.

The way I recall it, there were statements out of the league that there would never be another cold weather SB as a result of the negative publicity and it was a really big deal at the time.

However, try googling the incident and you will find NOTHING. Like it was scrubbed from history by the NFL. And it was many years before a northern city hosted after that.

I bring this up as something that I'm simply curious about, because I'm sure that it did take place, but I've never heard it cited when the discussion of cold weather Super Bowls takes place.

Anyone remember this happening?
yes i do and google says it was dubbed the "super crawl" and it seems 3 died 2 by falling off the back of the bus and getting run over and another because he could not unlock his house door and froze to death. there are references to it in the Detroit free press, and even the Lowell sun...

no need for conspiracy theories. the search difficulty is because this happened before the interwebs made everything that ever happened available forever. if there was a more recent reference to these events in post interweb 24 hour news media it would be an easy search...
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