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Old 02-17-2018, 07:22 PM   #286
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Just seen this from PFF - the top graded QBs in the 2017 NFL Season (Regular & Post-season) - Brady is number 1 by a fair margin.

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Cliff? What cliff?
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There are a few scary things about the 2018 cap.

They are handing out about 30 million in raises (cap numbers) to guys like Brady(8), Cooks(6.9), Gronk(4.4), Gilmore(3.9), Hightower(3.1), Cannon(2.2), McCourty(1), Guy(0.5)

There are only a few players like Chung (-2.4) who are due less against the cap.

There are some obvious moves like cutting Branch (save 3.5) and Dwayne Allen (save 5.0) Maybe Gilislee (save 2.2) Bennett(6.2 cap) may retire, or maybe they get creative with him.

I am not worried about replacing Amendola with Jules back and Mitchell getting healthy. RB is going to be weird. Would Vereen come back cheap for a year or 2 after he got his payday in NY? Do they cut Gilislee and bring back Burkhead? What do they do at LT and depth T? Is Rowe their #2 corner or do they target a mid range guy?
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Just seen this from PFF - the top graded QBs in the 2017 NFL Season (Regular & Post-season) - Brady is number 1 by a fair margin.

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Cliff? What cliff?
Brady should have been unanimous MVP this year. Todd Guley had an awesome 3 game stretch but his year was nothing special.

I do have to say that any rating system that thinks Matt Ryan was as good as Drew Brees this year is fairly useless.
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Just seen this from PFF - the top graded QBs in the 2017 NFL Season (Regular & Post-season) - Brady is number 1 by a fair margin.


Cliff? What cliff?
That is because in additional to his regular season MVP performance, he had a blistering post-season. The best 3 game post-season run of his career with 8 TDs, 0 picks, 1,140 yards passing, 108 passer rating. Oh and he did all that with a 12 stitch gash on his throwing hand.

One other tid bit - Brady has a 97 passer rating for his regular season career. He has a 98 rating in the Super Bowl.

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Brady should have been unanimous MVP this year. Todd Guley had an awesome 3 game stretch but his year was nothing special.

I do have to say that any rating system that thinks Matt Ryan was as good as Drew Brees this year is fairly useless.
The Gurley mantra for MVP is one of the best examples of the media hate toward Brady. Imagine if it had been Rodgers who was having Brady's season, does Gurley even get mentioned for his little run in Dec? Does Antonio Brown get a mention with his 9 Td catches? It is a prime example of the ridiculous media bias toward Brady that has prevented him from winning more MVPs over his career.

Still, as much as it sucks to not have gotten ring #6, I take a lot of joy and solace in Brady's third league MVP as it moves him up to rarified air in NFL history with only a handful of players ever winning it 3 times and adds yet another layer of cement to his already minted GOAT status. It also has Rodgers talking already about wanting to win another MVP (he has two) as we all know he is more concerned about his individual accomplishments than his team winning a championship.
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There are a few scary things about the 2018 cap.

They are handing out about 30 million in raises (cap numbers) to guys like Brady(8), Cooks(6.9), Gronk(4.4), Gilmore(3.9), Hightower(3.1), Cannon(2.2), McCourty(1), Guy(0.5)

There are only a few players like Chung (-2.4) who are due less against the cap.

There are some obvious moves like cutting Branch (save 3.5) and Dwayne Allen (save 5.0) Maybe Gilislee (save 2.2) Bennett(6.2 cap) may retire, or maybe they get creative with him.

I am not worried about replacing Amendola with Jules back and Mitchell getting healthy. RB is going to be weird. Would Vereen come back cheap for a year or 2 after he got his payday in NY? Do they cut Gilislee and bring back Burkhead? What do they do at LT and depth T? Is Rowe their #2 corner or do they target a mid range guy?
Oh god.

Another Amendola gone acolyte.
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Another Amendola gone acolyte.
If the Pats get rid of Dola who will have a quiet regular season only to put in clutch performances in the post-season?
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If the Pats get rid of Dola who will have a quiet regular season only to put in clutch performances in the post-season?
Exactly.

Add glowing praise from the HC and QB.

And the fact when a clutch play needs to be made it’s DA or Gronk TB looks to.

Roster lock.
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Is Rowe their #2 corner


By far the scariest.




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By far the scariest.




I like Rowe although his injury history is a concern but don't sleep on Jonathan Jones who took big strides forward this year. For all the talk about Butler in the SB, we missed Jones just as much maybe moreso.
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I like Rowe although his injury history is a concern but don't sleep on Jonathan Jones who took big strides forward this year. For all the talk about Butler in the SB, we missed Jones just as much maybe moreso.
I like Rowe too. But as a #3, not a #2. He's good in spurts and mostly against bigger receivers.


Have we completely written off Cyrus Jones at this point?
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I like Rowe too. But as a #3, not a #2. He's good in spurts and mostly against bigger receivers.


Have we completely written off Cyrus Jones at this point?
I don't think BB has written off Cyrus. I really don't expect us to make a big splash at CB. It really is not a need compared to the front 7 especially DE/OLB. I don't see BB going out and spending a lot on a second CB given what we are paying Gilmore. I think the guys we have will be fine.
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I can easily see our first pick being a CB.
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Here are Barwell's thoughts on what the Pats should do this off-season. I thought this was pretty good although I really don't believe Gronk is retiring this season but I do see Cooks as his obvious replacement. I had said this back last off-season when we signed Cooks that he would be viewed as the dynamic playmaker and get Gronk's money. But I don't think that happens just yet.

Also, no mention of James Harrison who we should absolutely re-sign at cheap money given he will be 40. That is a no brainer to me. He obviously has the desire and physical durability of Seau who played until he was 42.

If you want to read his thoughts on the other AFC East teams/AFC here is the link, http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/page...rnwell#AFCEast

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1. Pick up the fifth-year option for Malcom Brown. The Texas product hasn't grown into a star defensive lineman for the Patriots, but Brown has been a three-year starter for the Pats and serves as a valuable part of their rotation on the interior. The Patriots might not necessarily think about signing Brown to an extension this offseason, but keeping him around for 2019 is a no-brainer.

2. Clear out cap space. There are a few obvious moves for the Pats to make. Martellus Bennett won't be back at a cap number of $6.2 million, nor will backup tight end Dwayne Allen, who has a $5 million salary. New England also won't pick up Alan Branch's option after the defensive tackle fell out of the rotation, freeing up an additional $3.6 million. Finally, David Harris might retire but won't be around for 2018 at his current cap hit of $2.8 million. Cutting those four guys would free up just under $17 million and push the Pats to $34 million in free space.

3. Extend Brandin Cooks. The 24-year-old is entering the fifth-year option of his rookie deal, and while the Patriots don't typically pay wideouts No. 1 receiver money, Cooks might be an exception. The Patriots likely will change their offense some after Rob Gronkowski retires, a move that could come as early as this offseason. In the absence of a replacement for Gronk -- and there might not be a player in football history who is similar to him -- the Pats will think about replacing their star tight end as the long-term focal point of their offense with a star wideout.

Cooks probably isn't in line to come away with the sort of top-tier deals Odell Beckham Jr. and Mike Evans are about to sign, but he won't be far off. The five-year, $81 million extension DeAndre Hopkins inked last August should be similar to whatever deal Cooks ends up signing, whether that's in New England or elsewhere.

4. Extend Trey Flowers and Shaq Mason. The Patriots' two best selections from the 2015 draft were actually fourth-rounders. Flowers has emerged as a steady pass-rusher for the Patriots, and while he mustered only 6.5 sacks in 14 games last season, the 25 knockdowns Flowers registered suggest he has double-digit sack potential in 2018. And though Mason's final memory of the 2017 season might be getting beaten by Brandon Graham on that critical strip-sack of Tom Brady in the fourth quarter of the Super Bowl, he improved noticeably over the course of the campaign and was New England's best lineman at any spot for most of the year.

Both Flowers and Mason will be unrestricted free agents after the 2018 season, and while the Patriots have them both on bargain-basement rookie contracts this year, it would make sense for them to at least try and extend both before free agency. Flowers' low sack totals might help keep his price tag down. I wonder if the Patriots might be able to secure the 24-year-old on a deal with an average annual salary of $10 million to $11 million. Mason should come in slightly cheaper, as he'll be closer to $8 million to $9 million per year.

5. Address left tackle. Mason and Marcus Cannon, whose 2017 seasons were riddled by injuries, will be manning the right side of the Patriots' line in 2018. Joe Thuney is a useful run-blocking guard on the other side. David Andrews is signed to a low-cost, long-term deal at center. Four of the five spots are set for the Pats in 2018.

Left tackle? That's wide-open. Nate Solder is a free agent, and there's a chance the 29-year-old could step away from football as his young son fights cancer. Cannon could move to the left side, but the Patriots replaced him in 2017 with a rotation of Cameron Fleming and LaAdrian Waddle, who were ineffective and are now both free agents. The Patriots drafted a possible replacement for Solder last year -- third-rounder Antonio Garcia -- but the Troy product is a project who missed his entire rookie season with an undisclosed injury. It would be risky at best to protect Brady's blindside with Garcia.

It's likely the Patriots add a tackle this offseason, either with a high draft pick or as a cap casualty. Jason Peters and Jared Veldheer would make sense as short-term options who are likely to be released by their current employers. The Patriots might also look to draft a tackle with the 31st or 43rd overall selections in this year's draft.

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