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Old 05-27-2012, 01:45 PM   #61
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Well thats funny, because with the money I earn, I want to help the less fortunate, and he doesn't....I guess thats a Christian thing. I know that Jesus was against helping the poor....he always said...Stay away from money you bastards, its MINE, I earned it!!!! Yes hypocrisy is alive and well in this thread. A so called christian bitching to help the poor, and the so called heathen no God people wanting to help the poor...welcome to the world. Or is it, you only want to use your money to help those you deem fit to help, unlike the prostitutes that Jesus was said to help....


Did I say I didnt want to help the poor? Please show me where I said that I didn't want to help the poor.
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Old 05-27-2012, 01:50 PM   #62
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No...absoultely not.

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Old 05-27-2012, 01:51 PM   #63
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Ruthless....lol.

I assume that when you use the term "hypocrite" you are making the assumption that God requires Catholics to give money to the government to pay other people's overpriced college tuitions.
Well guess what....he doesn't.

And as for Karma....since you are giving me spiritual advice.....let me offer the same to you. As you certainly have hopes for me, I have a hope for you that you will change your ways. Karma won't get you, because there is no such thing as karma. But God will judge you (and everyone)....repent.

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Old 05-27-2012, 01:53 PM   #64
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So Silas can you elaborate about how you want to help the poor? Clearly it isn't through Pell Grants for college. Or food stamps to feed children who were born rather than aborted.
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Old 05-27-2012, 02:04 PM   #65
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Ruthless....lol.

I assume that when you use the term "hypocrite" you are making the assumption that God requires Catholics to give money to the government to pay other people's overpriced college tuitions.
Well guess what....he doesn't.
Nope. Just the church asks Catholics to give money to...wait for it...the church to help gild its coffers.

After all, it is one of the wealthiest corporations in the world.
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His point is very valid. He wants the "freedom of choice" to do as he pleases with the money he earns.
This.

There's nothing wrong with RIPF said about money/donating.

I would MUCH prefer to be taxed less, instead of paying for BS, non-American ideas like forced welfare and crap like that, and instead donate that money that I would have saved towards things that I do in fact believe in.

But no, the gov't decides to take, instead, in an altogether non-democratic manner.
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Well thats funny, because with the money I earn, I want to help the less fortunate, and he doesn't....I guess thats a Christian thing. I know that Jesus was against helping the poor....he always said...Stay away from money you bastards, its MINE, I earned it!!!! Yes hypocrisy is alive and well in this thread. A so called christian bitching to help the poor, and the so called heathen no God people wanting to help the poor...welcome to the world. Or is it, you only want to use your money to help those you deem fit to help, unlike the prostitutes that Jesus was said to help....
He doesn't?

That's odd, he never said that.

Are you putting words in peoples' mouths again?
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So Silas can you elaborate about how you want to help the poor? Clearly it isn't through Pell Grants for college. Or food stamps to feed children who were born rather than aborted.
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That's odd, because RIPF STILL didn't say anywhere that he doesn't donate to the poor.

Let me put it another way; what's the better scenario?

1. Get taxed a certain amount; let's say $100. The gov't keeps 70% to pay its workers, and then gives $30 of that to Pell Grants, for example?

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2. The gov't reduces taxes so that I saved $100, and I spend all $100 on food for the poor. Or money to an animal shelter.

I know which one I prefer. One is distinctly more American than the other.
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Nope. Just the church asks Catholics to give money to...wait for it...the church to help gild its coffers.

After all, it is one of the wealthiest corporations in the world.
I would also argue that the RCC provides more aid to the world than any other single institution in the world.

By far.
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That's odd, because RIPF STILL didn't say anywhere that he doesn't donate to the poor.

Let me put it another way; what's the better scenario?

1. Get taxed a certain amount; let's say $100. The gov't keeps 70% to pay its workers, and then gives $30 of that to Pell Grants, for example?

or

2. The gov't reduces taxes so that I saved $100, and I spend all $100 on food for the poor. Or money to an animal shelter.

I know which one I prefer. One is distinctly more American than the other.
Welfare goes to pay for food and medical to poor children. I love animals too, but unfortunate children come first. Unless we can significantly reduce the number of unfortunate children.
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That's odd, because RIPF STILL didn't say anywhere that he doesn't donate to the poor.

Let me put it another way; what's the better scenario?

1. Get taxed a certain amount; let's say $100. The gov't keeps 70% to pay its workers, and then gives $30 of that to Pell Grants, for example?

or

2. The gov't reduces taxes so that I saved $100, and I spend all $100 on food for the poor. Or money to an animal shelter.

I know which one I prefer. One is distinctly more American than the other.

Exactly.....and if you look at America before FDR, most aid was done at the local and state level. In fact, Massachusetts under Governor Ely raised money in a statewide unemployment drive and did their best to avoid federal aid at the beginning of the Depression.
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Exactly.....and if you look at America before FDR, most aid was done at the local and state level. In fact, Massachusetts under Governor Ely raised money in a statewide unemployment drive and did their best to avoid federal aid at the beginning of the Depression.
What have you orchestrated on the state level to aid the poor? Do you have a family or two that you host?
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I tend to believe that if people had more of their own earned money, they'd donate more to the poor.
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I tend to believe that if people had more of their own earned money, they'd donate more to the poor.
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