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Old 07-21-2009, 08:53 PM   #1
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Why do Cops even bother anymore?

Neighbor reports break-in at adjacent house. Police show up and ask to see Identification of person inside said broken-into house. Homeowner (Who had simply just lost the keys to his house and was gaining entry by BREAKING HIS FRONT DOOR DOWN) gets irate and obnoxious with Police, refusing to provide Identification and accusing them of Racism. Police then arrest man and charge him with Disorderly Conduct. Police then drop charges after man goes nuts and gets rights groups onvolved.


Why do Cops even bother anymore?

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/reg...icleid=1186258

Here's a link to the police report....good reading:
http://bostonherald.com/news/documen...report&p=&k=bh

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Old 07-21-2009, 09:25 PM   #2
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Neighbor reports break-in at adjacent house. Police show up and ask to see Identification of person inside said broken-into house. Homeowner (Who had simply just lost the keys to his house and was gaining entry by BREAKING HIS FRONT DOOR DOWN) gets irate and obnoxious with Police, refusing to provide Identification and accusing them of Racism. Police then arrest man and charge him with Disorderly Conduct. Police then drop charges after man goes nuts and gets rights groups onvolved.


Why do Cops even bother anymore?

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/reg...s#CommentsArea

Read the police report linked in the article to get the real picture. The only racist on scene was the professor. The only A hole on scene was the professor. The only one getting any grief is the Sgt.

Guy acts like a complete imbecile, baby, douchebag...gets every chance in the world to act like an adult....yet it is a "race problem". Yeah apparently the professor has a problem with everyone else that isn't like him.
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Old 07-21-2009, 09:45 PM   #3
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Of course the (liberal) Boston Globe treats the Hah-vahd Professor as if he's a saint, and puts all of the blame on the police.

As much as I've enjoyed getting my PhD from Harvard, I loathe the snotty liberalism of Cambridge and that which exists on the campus itself.

The guy incited the police officer. He needs to get over himself.
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As much as I've enjoyed getting my PhD from Harvard, I loathe the snotty liberalism of Cambridge and that which exists on the campus itself.
Will you tell us the subject of your dissertation?
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Will you tell us the subject of your dissertation?
The investigation of Romanization through the case study of Dura Europos.

That's a brief description, but basically what does Dura Europos tell us about how the Romans interacted with those who lived on the Roman/Parthian border from Armenia to Palmyra.
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The investigation of Romanization through the case study of Dura Europos.

That's a brief description, but basically what does Dura Europos tell us about how the Romans interacted with those who lived on the Roman/Parthian border from Armenia to Palmyra.
Thanks for the info. Have you ever been to Italy?
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What's the over/under on how many days until the good professor's home gets broken into?
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Hmm. So, since I hate my neighbors, if I ever see them locked out, I can call the cops on them?

Yeah, the guy acted like a jerk, but without a warrant, I don't see how the police had any right to enter or arrest the man.
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Hmm. So, since I hate my neighbors, if I ever see them locked out, I can call the cops on them?

Yeah, the guy acted like a jerk, but without a warrant, I don't see how the police had any right to enter or arrest the man.
Let me get this straight, your neighbor see's some trying to break down your door, they call the police. The police arrive, the man trying to break down your door claims it's his house, they ask for ID, he refuses and you want the cops to....walk away?
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Hmm. So, since I hate my neighbors, if I ever see them locked out, I can call the cops on them?

Yeah, the guy acted like a jerk, but without a warrant, I don't see how the police had any right to enter or arrest the man.
I wuld think that:

1. Report of man breaking into home...
2. Appearance that place has been broken into upon arrival
3. Man matching description in house who refuses to ID himself or cooperate...

would = some form of probable cause, IMHO, but I'm not a lawyer, so...
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Let me get this straight, your neighbor see's some trying to break down your door, they call the police. The police arrive, the man trying to break down your door claims it's his house, they ask for ID, he refuses and you want the cops to....walk away?
A neighbor? The article doesn't identify her as a neighbor. In fact, she lives in Malden.

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Last week, a witness, 40-year-old Lucia Whalen of Malden, had alerted the cops that a man was wedging his shoulder into the front door at Gates’ house as to pry the door open, police reported.
Article from the Guardian identifies her as a woman walking by:

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It was broad daylight in the early afternoon when Gates, 58, reached his house in a local taxi. The front door had in some way been damaged and he couldn't get in, so he entered through the back door, disabled the alarm, and then again tried to push open the front door with the help of the (black) driver.

A (white) woman walking by saw a black man trying to force the door and leapt to the kind of assumptions that Gates has chronicled over many years.
Like I said, yeah, he acted like a jerk, but the probable cause here seems pretty flimsy.
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If a cop was at my door and asking me for ID under these circumstances, yes- I'd be startled. However, once I realized WHY the Cop was asking me for my ID I would just laugh, shake my head, and THANK the cop for doing his job (While handing my ID to him).

This guy (Gates) purposely flew off the handle and IMO is looking to make an issue out of it for self-promotion.
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Ignoring, the revelation that their may be racist white people in the affluent and liberal parts of Massachusetts, when the police respond to a call of suspicious activity, either reported by a bigoted (liberal) white woman or otherwise, they ask for ID. This is what they do, this is what they do every single time they do it. When some one committing a suspicious act refuses to generate ID it raises a couple flags. When some continues to act like a douche about it, they get arrested.

That is the way it works, that is the way it would work for you, that is the way it would work for me.
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Ignoring, the revelation that their may be racist white people in the affluent and liberal parts of Massachusetts, when the police respond to a call of suspicious activity, either reported by a bigoted (liberal) white woman or otherwise, they ask for ID. This is what they do, this is what they do every single time they do it. When some one committing a suspicious act refuses to generate ID it raises a couple flags. When some continues to act like a douche about it, they get arrested.

That is the way it works, that is the way it would work for you, that is the way it would work for me.
Oh, if it was me, it would be what I did after I showed them my ID that would get me arrested.
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Oh, if it was me, it would be what I did after I showed them my ID that would get me arrested.
Would you still level chargers for racism too? ;)
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