>
Patriots Planet - New England Patriots Forums and Message Boards

Home Members List Top Posters Arcade Casino Toolbar
Go Back   Patriots Planet - New England Patriots Forums and Message Boards > The Razor > Politics and Religion Forum
Mark Forums Read rel="nofollow">Mark Forums Read
Register All Albums FAQDonate Calendar

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-02-2019, 09:12 AM   #1546
Baron Samedi
Russian Bot 762X54R
 
Baron Samedi's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Framingham
Posts: 27,087
Posting Frequency


Casino cash: $444175
My Mood


Baron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that good
Baron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that good
Essentially the same news as already posted....but it's just too funny to not share WattsUp's take on it...

This is so funny, that I question the veracity of it...seems like something from The Onion.

Friday Funny: Experts Warn We Have Only 12 Years Left Until They Change The Timeline On Global Warming Again

WORLD—Climate experts have solemnly warned that we only have twelve years left until they change the dates on global warming again.

“If we don’t take action, then in 12 years we will have to explain why the world hasn’t ended and come up with a new number,” one UN scientist warned. “This is a very serious threat, and we urge everyone to hand control of the economy to the government immediately before we have no more time left to change the timeline again.”

The scientific consensus is that roughly 10-12 years from now, the world will be flooded with new doomsday predictions. This can all be avoided if we overhaul the economy and become socialists, according to non-political, unbiased sciencey type guys.

“Should we not change our ways, our old predictions will melt, dangerously raising the chance of us having to move the goalposts again,” said Al Gore. “Do you really want me to write another book, film another movie, and go on another tour in my private jet just because you dingbats couldn’t be bothered to alter your lifestyles? I don’t think so. Let’s all get on board with this 12-year figure, or we’ll have to push back the date again.”
Hilarious full story here at the Babylon Bee


Lest you think I’m joking, look what the U.N. said in 1989: (bold mine)

U.N. Predicts Disaster if Global Warming Not Checked
PETER JAMES SPIELMANN June 30, 1989

UNITED NATIONS (AP) _ A senior U.N. environmental official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000.

Coastal flooding and crop failures would create an exodus of ″eco- refugees,′ ′ threatening political chaos, said Noel Brown, director of the New York office of the U.N. Environment Program, or UNEP.

He said governments have a 10-year window of opportunity to solve the greenhouse effect before it goes beyond human control.


https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/08/...warming-again/


30 Year Anniversary of the UN 1989 “10 years to save the world” Climate Warning



Global warming was not reversed by the year 2000 – yet we are still here.

U.N. Predicts Disaster if Global Warming Not Checked
PETER JAMES SPIELMANN June 30, 1989

UNITED NATIONS (AP) _ A senior U.N. environmental official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000.

Coastal flooding and crop failures would create an exodus of ″eco- refugees,′ ′ threatening political chaos, said Noel Brown, director of the New York office of the U.N. Environment Program, or UNEP.

He said governments have a 10-year window of opportunity to solve the greenhouse effect before it goes beyond human control.

As the warming melts polar icecaps, ocean levels will rise by up to three feet, enough to cover the Maldives and other flat island nations, Brown told The Associated Press in an interview on Wednesday.

Coastal regions will be inundated; one-sixth of Bangladesh could be flooded, displacing a fourth of its 90 million people. A fifth of Egypt’s arable land in the Nile Delta would be flooded, cutting off its food supply, according to a joint UNEP and U.S. Environmental Protection Agency study.

″Ecological refugees will become a major concern, and what’s worse is you may find that people can move to drier ground, but the soils and the natural resources may not support life. Africa doesn’t have to worry about land, but would you want to live in the Sahara?″ he said.

https://www.apnews.com/bd45c372caf118ec99964ea547880cd0



Link to a PDF copy of the AP article, in case the original is “disappeared”.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/wp-conte...ot-Checked.pdf

What other great examples of failed climate warnings can you remember?

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/06/...imate-warning/
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaric View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by benhamean View Post
Who is this self-important instigating douche-bag, anyway?
Dude, Baron has been a valued member of this forum for quite some time.
Peace, Prosperity, Liberty, Human Rights, Natural Rights, Civil Rights, Property Rights, Sound Money, Free Markets, Sovereignty, the Constitution, the Republic.

Shameless plug for my blog; https://puntyventures.com/
  Baron Samedi is offline Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2019, 09:20 AM   #1547
O.Z.O.
rude and offensive
 
O.Z.O.'s Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: indoors
Posts: 20,758
Posting Frequency


Casino cash: $388901
My Mood


O.Z.O. should plot to take over the world, they're that goodO.Z.O. should plot to take over the world, they're that goodO.Z.O. should plot to take over the world, they're that goodO.Z.O. should plot to take over the world, they're that goodO.Z.O. should plot to take over the world, they're that good
O.Z.O. should plot to take over the world, they're that goodO.Z.O. should plot to take over the world, they're that goodO.Z.O. should plot to take over the world, they're that goodO.Z.O. should plot to take over the world, they're that goodO.Z.O. should plot to take over the world, they're that goodO.Z.O. should plot to take over the world, they're that goodO.Z.O. should plot to take over the world, they're that goodO.Z.O. should plot to take over the world, they're that goodO.Z.O. should plot to take over the world, they're that goodO.Z.O. should plot to take over the world, they're that goodO.Z.O. should plot to take over the world, they're that good
Quote:
Originally Posted by Baron Samedi View Post
Essentially the same news as already posted....but it's just too funny to not share WattsUp's take on it...

This is so funny, that I question the veracity of it...seems like something from The Onion.

Friday Funny: Experts Warn We Have Only 12 Years Left Until They Change The Timeline On Global Warming Again

WORLD—Climate experts have solemnly warned that we only have twelve years left until they change the dates on global warming again.

“If we don’t take action, then in 12 years we will have to explain why the world hasn’t ended and come up with a new number,” one UN scientist warned. “This is a very serious threat, and we urge everyone to hand control of the economy to the government immediately before we have no more time left to change the timeline again.”

The scientific consensus is that roughly 10-12 years from now, the world will be flooded with new doomsday predictions. This can all be avoided if we overhaul the economy and become socialists, according to non-political, unbiased sciencey type guys.

“Should we not change our ways, our old predictions will melt, dangerously raising the chance of us having to move the goalposts again,” said Al Gore. “Do you really want me to write another book, film another movie, and go on another tour in my private jet just because you dingbats couldn’t be bothered to alter your lifestyles? I don’t think so. Let’s all get on board with this 12-year figure, or we’ll have to push back the date again.”
Hilarious full story here at the Babylon Bee


Lest you think I’m joking, look what the U.N. said in 1989: (bold mine)

U.N. Predicts Disaster if Global Warming Not Checked
PETER JAMES SPIELMANN June 30, 1989

UNITED NATIONS (AP) _ A senior U.N. environmental official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000.

Coastal flooding and crop failures would create an exodus of ″eco- refugees,′ ′ threatening political chaos, said Noel Brown, director of the New York office of the U.N. Environment Program, or UNEP.

He said governments have a 10-year window of opportunity to solve the greenhouse effect before it goes beyond human control.


https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/08/...warming-again/


30 Year Anniversary of the UN 1989 “10 years to save the world” Climate Warning



Global warming was not reversed by the year 2000 – yet we are still here.

U.N. Predicts Disaster if Global Warming Not Checked
PETER JAMES SPIELMANN June 30, 1989

UNITED NATIONS (AP) _ A senior U.N. environmental official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000.

Coastal flooding and crop failures would create an exodus of ″eco- refugees,′ ′ threatening political chaos, said Noel Brown, director of the New York office of the U.N. Environment Program, or UNEP.

He said governments have a 10-year window of opportunity to solve the greenhouse effect before it goes beyond human control.

As the warming melts polar icecaps, ocean levels will rise by up to three feet, enough to cover the Maldives and other flat island nations, Brown told The Associated Press in an interview on Wednesday.

Coastal regions will be inundated; one-sixth of Bangladesh could be flooded, displacing a fourth of its 90 million people. A fifth of Egypt’s arable land in the Nile Delta would be flooded, cutting off its food supply, according to a joint UNEP and U.S. Environmental Protection Agency study.

″Ecological refugees will become a major concern, and what’s worse is you may find that people can move to drier ground, but the soils and the natural resources may not support life. Africa doesn’t have to worry about land, but would you want to live in the Sahara?″ he said.

https://www.apnews.com/bd45c372caf118ec99964ea547880cd0



Link to a PDF copy of the AP article, in case the original is “disappeared”.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/wp-conte...ot-Checked.pdf

What other great examples of failed climate warnings can you remember?

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/06/...imate-warning/
the new Ice Age we were warned about in the 70's.
__________________
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]


#FBaltimore: their coach, and their fans too
  O.Z.O. is offline Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2019, 10:49 AM   #1548
tehmackdaddy
post tenebras lux
 
tehmackdaddy's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: IN the world, but not OF the world
Posts: 18,283
Posting Frequency


Casino cash: $494291
My Mood


tehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on money
tehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on money
__________________
"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."

-MLK Jr.
  tehmackdaddy is offline Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2019, 10:51 AM   #1549
BostonTim
IIWII
 
BostonTim's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 29,862
Posting Frequency


Casino cash: $1271000


BostonTim has much to be proud ofBostonTim has much to be proud ofBostonTim has much to be proud ofBostonTim has much to be proud of
BostonTim has much to be proud ofBostonTim has much to be proud ofBostonTim has much to be proud ofBostonTim has much to be proud ofBostonTim has much to be proud ofBostonTim has much to be proud ofBostonTim has much to be proud of
Only 12 years till they up the anti on the horseshit.
__________________
  BostonTim is online now Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2019, 11:20 AM   #1550
Baron Samedi
Russian Bot 762X54R
 
Baron Samedi's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Framingham
Posts: 27,087
Posting Frequency


Casino cash: $444175
My Mood


Baron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that good
Baron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that good
Quote:
Originally Posted by BostonTim View Post
Only 12 years till they up the anti on the horseshit.
The thing is, they know most Americans have the attention span of a gnat. The average American can't remember 12 months ago what they said, let alone 12 years. Most Americans think there is a wolf every time the shepherd hollers.

Furthermore, what we are dealing with is more religion than science. That makes all logic and evidence moot.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaric View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by benhamean View Post
Who is this self-important instigating douche-bag, anyway?
Dude, Baron has been a valued member of this forum for quite some time.
Peace, Prosperity, Liberty, Human Rights, Natural Rights, Civil Rights, Property Rights, Sound Money, Free Markets, Sovereignty, the Constitution, the Republic.

Shameless plug for my blog; https://puntyventures.com/
  Baron Samedi is offline Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2019, 05:38 PM   #1551
O_P_T
Why Be Normal
 
O_P_T's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Windsor, CT
Posts: 20,678
Posting Frequency


Casino cash: $809875
My Mood


O_P_T makes Greek statues weep in jealousyO_P_T makes Greek statues weep in jealousyO_P_T makes Greek statues weep in jealousyO_P_T makes Greek statues weep in jealousy
O_P_T makes Greek statues weep in jealousyO_P_T makes Greek statues weep in jealousyO_P_T makes Greek statues weep in jealousyO_P_T makes Greek statues weep in jealousyO_P_T makes Greek statues weep in jealousyO_P_T makes Greek statues weep in jealousy
Quote:
Originally Posted by Baron Samedi View Post
The thing is, they know most Americans have the attention span of a gnat. The average American can't remember 12 months ago what they said, let alone 12 years. Most Americans think there is a wolf every time the shepherd hollers.

Furthermore, what we are dealing with is more religion than science. That makes all logic and evidence moot.
Next time someone claims "the science is settled" ask them this:
Really?

Wasn't it "settled" science that there were two sexes not that long ago?

How many are there now?
__________________
I AM PATRIOTS

"Some day I want to see them raise up on their piss-soaked hind legs and howl, "Jesus Christ, it's the Goddamned Patriots again and that son-of-a-f*cking-bitch Belichick".
Paraphrasing George S. Patton
  O_P_T is online now Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2019, 06:52 PM   #1552
BostonTim
IIWII
 
BostonTim's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 29,862
Posting Frequency


Casino cash: $1271000


BostonTim has much to be proud ofBostonTim has much to be proud ofBostonTim has much to be proud ofBostonTim has much to be proud of
BostonTim has much to be proud ofBostonTim has much to be proud ofBostonTim has much to be proud ofBostonTim has much to be proud ofBostonTim has much to be proud ofBostonTim has much to be proud ofBostonTim has much to be proud of
Quote:
Originally Posted by O_P_T View Post
Next time someone claims "the science is settled" ask them this:
Really?

Wasn't it "settled" science that there were two sexes not that long ago?

How many are there now?
What ever happened to "Climate change"? When exactly did it revert to Global warming. I musta missed it..

Cheers
__________________
  BostonTim is online now Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2019, 08:17 AM   #1553
Giant Octopodes
Registered User
 
Giant Octopodes's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Michigan
Posts: 942
Posting Frequency


Casino cash: $9238


Giant Octopodes can make a spectacular post in heavy trafficGiant Octopodes can make a spectacular post in heavy traffic
Giant Octopodes can make a spectacular post in heavy trafficGiant Octopodes can make a spectacular post in heavy trafficGiant Octopodes can make a spectacular post in heavy trafficGiant Octopodes can make a spectacular post in heavy trafficGiant Octopodes can make a spectacular post in heavy trafficGiant Octopodes can make a spectacular post in heavy traffic
Quote:
Originally Posted by BostonTim View Post
What ever happened to "Climate change"? When exactly did it revert to Global warming. I musta missed it..

Cheers
There was a lull in the warming for an extended period, which is why they switched in the first place. The lull ended so why not switch back?

https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs...l-temperature/

From 2002 (which was .62 degrees C above an arbitrary temp) to 2012 (which was .61 degrees C above the same temp) there was a 10 year period wherein the average temp didn't rise. Then 2016 came along and was as far above that value as 1987 was below it, reinforcing the idea that yes, average temps are still rising.
__________________
"We're better because we've worked harder and we've improved and we've gotten better. There’s no shortcut to it. You just can’t draw a couple of carrots on a page and that all of a sudden takes care of it" - Bill Belichick
  Giant Octopodes is offline Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2019, 05:42 PM   #1554
Baron Samedi
Russian Bot 762X54R
 
Baron Samedi's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Framingham
Posts: 27,087
Posting Frequency


Casino cash: $444175
My Mood


Baron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that good
Baron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that goodBaron Samedi should plot to take over the world, they're that good
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaric View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by benhamean View Post
Who is this self-important instigating douche-bag, anyway?
Dude, Baron has been a valued member of this forum for quite some time.
Peace, Prosperity, Liberty, Human Rights, Natural Rights, Civil Rights, Property Rights, Sound Money, Free Markets, Sovereignty, the Constitution, the Republic.

Shameless plug for my blog; https://puntyventures.com/
  Baron Samedi is offline Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2019, 09:59 AM   #1555
BostonTim
IIWII
 
BostonTim's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 29,862
Posting Frequency


Casino cash: $1271000


BostonTim has much to be proud ofBostonTim has much to be proud ofBostonTim has much to be proud ofBostonTim has much to be proud of
BostonTim has much to be proud ofBostonTim has much to be proud ofBostonTim has much to be proud ofBostonTim has much to be proud ofBostonTim has much to be proud ofBostonTim has much to be proud ofBostonTim has much to be proud of
Quote:
Originally Posted by Baron Samedi View Post
Matters not whether tis fact or fiction, True or false, it's been proclaimed settled science.

Cheers,
__________________
  BostonTim is online now Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2019, 01:23 PM   #1556
Big/Sky/Fly
Fort Knoxborough
 
Big/Sky/Fly's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Moonover, Montana
Posts: 29,703
Posting Frequency


Casino cash: $245353
My Mood


Big/Sky/Fly has a brilliant futureBig/Sky/Fly has a brilliant futureBig/Sky/Fly has a brilliant futureBig/Sky/Fly has a brilliant futureBig/Sky/Fly has a brilliant futureBig/Sky/Fly has a brilliant future
Big/Sky/Fly has a brilliant futureBig/Sky/Fly has a brilliant futureBig/Sky/Fly has a brilliant futureBig/Sky/Fly has a brilliant futureBig/Sky/Fly has a brilliant futureBig/Sky/Fly has a brilliant future
Quote:
Originally Posted by O_P_T View Post
Next time someone claims "the science is settled" ask them this:
Really?

Wasn't it "settled" science that there were two sexes not that long ago?

How many are there now?
Two...
__________________
Steelers: 6 SBs w/3 HCs, 2 QBs, over 40 years

Patriots: 6 SBs w/1 HC, 1 QB, over 18 years


If You Don’t Read the Newspaper You Are Uninformed, If You Do Read the Newspaper You Are Misinformed
- Mark Twain

You have to have the personality to match up with the Patriots
- Emmit(t) Smith

Wise man never play leapfrog with unicorn
- Confucius
  Big/Sky/Fly is offline Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2019, 01:56 PM   #1557
tehmackdaddy
post tenebras lux
 
tehmackdaddy's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: IN the world, but not OF the world
Posts: 18,283
Posting Frequency


Casino cash: $494291
My Mood


tehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on money
tehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on money
Quote:
"Climate Alarmists Foiled: No U.S. Warming Since 2005"
By James Taylor
August 23, 2019


When American climate alarmists claim to have witnessed the effects of global warming, they must be referring to a time beyond 14 years ago. That is because there has been no warming in the United States since at least 2005, according to updated data from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).

In January 2005, NOAA began recording temperatures at its newly built U.S. Climate Reference Network (USCRN). USCRN includes 114 pristinely maintained temperature stations spaced relatively uniformly across the lower 48 states. NOAA selected locations that were far away from urban and land-development impacts that might artificially taint temperature readings.

Prior to the USCRN going online, alarmists and skeptics sparred over the accuracy of reported temperature data. With most preexisting temperature stations located in or near urban settings that are subject to false temperature signals and create their own microclimates that change over time, government officials performed many often-controversial adjustments to the raw temperature data. Skeptics of an asserted climate crisis pointed out that most of the reported warming in the United States was non-existent in the raw temperature data, but was added to the record by government officials.

The USCRN has eliminated the need to rely on, and adjust the data from, outdated temperature stations. Strikingly, as shown in the graph below, USCRN temperature stations show no warming since 2005 when the network went online. If anything, U.S. temperatures are now slightly cooler than they were 14 years ago.



Climate activists frequently visit or mention particular regions, states, or places in the United States and claim warming impacts are evident, accelerating, and unmistakable. Yet how can that be when there has been no warming in the United States since at least 2005?

Unfortunately, when politicians and climate activists claim they can see the impacts of climate change in a particular place, the media rarely question them on it and tend to accept the claims at face value. But the objective temperature data show no recent warming has occurred.

There is also good reason to believe U.S. temperatures have not warmed at all since the 1930s. Raw temperature readings at the preexisting stations indicate temperatures are the same now as 80 years ago. All of the asserted U.S. warming since 1930 is the product of the controversial adjustments made to the raw data. Skeptics point out that as the American population has grown, so has the artificial warming signal generated by growing cities, more asphalt, more automobiles, and more machinery.

If anything, the raw temperature readings should be adjusted downward today relative to past temperatures (or past temperatures adjusted upward in comparison to present temperatures) rather than the other way around. If raw temperature readings are the same today as they were 80 years ago, when there were fewer artificial factors spuriously raising temperature readings, then U.S. temperatures today may actually be cooler than they were in the early 20th century.

The lack of warming in the United States during the past 14 years is not too different from satellite-measured global trends. Globally, satellite instruments report temperatures have risen merely 0.15 degrees Celsius since 2005, which is less than half the pace predicted by the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change climate models.

Climate crisis advocates attempt to dismiss the minor satellite-measured warming by utilizing ground temperature stations around the globe, which tend to have even more corrupting biases and problems than the old U.S. stations. Of course, they adjust those readings, as well. Perhaps the time has come for American officials to direct some of the billions of dollars spent each year on climate-research and climate-change programs to building and maintaining a global Climate Reference Network.

Either way, it is becoming increasingly difficult for American politicians and climate activists to say they can see the effects of warming temperatures in the United States. For at least the past 14 years, there have been no such warming temperatures.

Link
.
__________________
"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."

-MLK Jr.
  tehmackdaddy is offline Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2019, 02:01 PM   #1558
tehmackdaddy
post tenebras lux
 
tehmackdaddy's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: IN the world, but not OF the world
Posts: 18,283
Posting Frequency


Casino cash: $494291
My Mood


tehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on money
tehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on moneytehmackdaddy should have their picture on money
Quote:
"Why human CO2 does not change climate"
by Edwin Berry, PhD, CCM

Abstract

The United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) claims human emissions raised the carbon dioxide level from 280 ppm to 410 ppm, or 130 ppm. Physics proves this claim is impossible.

The IPCC agrees today’s annual human carbon dioxide emissions are 4.5 ppm per year and nature’s carbon dioxide emissions are 98 ppm per year. Yet, the IPCC claims human emissions have caused all the increase in carbon dioxide since 1750, which is 30 percent of today’s total.

How can human carbon dioxide, which is less than 5 percent of natural carbon dioxide, cause 30 percent of today’s atmospheric carbon dioxide? It can’t.

This paper derives a Model that shows how human and natural carbon dioxide emissions independently change the equilibrium level of atmospheric carbon dioxide. This Model should replace the IPCC’s invalid Bern model.

The Model shows the ratio of human to natural carbon dioxide in the atmosphere equals the ratio of their inflows, independent of residence time.

The model shows, contrary to IPCC claims, that human emissions do not continually add carbon dioxide to the atmosphere, but rather cause a flow of carbon dioxide through the atmosphere. The flow adds a constant equilibrium level, not a continuing increasing level, of carbon dioxide.

Present human emissions add an equilibrium level of 18 ppm, which is the product of human carbon dioxide inflow of 4.5 ppm per year multiplied by the carbon dioxide residence time of 4 years. Present natural emissions add an equilibrium level of 392 ppm, to get today’s 410 ppm.

If human emissions continue as at present, these emissions will add no additional carbon dioxide to the atmosphere. If all human emissions were stopped, and nature stayed constant, it would remove only 18 ppm. The natural level of 392 ppm would remain.


1. Introduction
The critical questions about climate change are not about whether climate has changed. Climate always changes. The critical scientific questions about climate change are about cause-and-effect:

How much do human emissions increase atmospheric carbon dioxide?
How much does increased atmospheric carbon dioxide change climate?
This paper focuses on and answers the first question.

The United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) agrees that annual human carbon dioxide emissions are less than 5 percent of nature’s carbon dioxide emissions. Yet, the IPCC claims human emissions have caused all the increase in carbon dioxide since 1750, which is 30 percent of today’s total.

The IPCC claims abundant published literature shows, with “considerable certainty,” that nature has been a net carbon sink since 1750, so could not have caused the observed rise in atmospheric carbon dioxide. Section 3.1 shows why this IPCC argument fails.

Munshi (2017) used statistics to show “that detrended correlation analysis of annual emissions and annual changes in atmospheric carbon dioxide” is zero. Munshi proved there is no cause and effect and no “considerable certainty.”

Here are three analogies that will help you understand this paper.

Analogy #1
Let human carbon dioxide emissions be cream and natural carbon dioxide emissions be coffee. Pour 5 parts of cream and 95 parts of coffee into a cup with a hole in the bottom. Continue to pour 5 parts of cream and 95 parts of coffee into the cup fast enough to keep the cup filled.

Question: What is the percent of cream in the cup? Answer: Clearly, it’s 5 percent.

The tea cup analogy shows, so long as you pour 5 percent cream and 95 percent coffee into the cup, you will never get more than 5 percent cream in the cup.

But the IPCC claims the cup contains 30 percent cream and 70 percent coffee, and the percent of cream in the cup will continue to increase so long as the pouring of 5 percent cream continues.

Thus, the IPCC claims the hole in the bottom of the cup magically stops over 60 percent of the cream from flowing through the hole. The IPCC further claims continually pouring this mixture into the cup will create a permanent, increasing amount of cream in the cup, that will overflow the cup.

Analogy #2
A river flows into a lake and the lake water exits over a fixed dam. The lake level rises until outflow equals inflow. Add a new river that increases the inflow by 5 percent. The lake level will rise until, once again, outflow equals inflow.

Similarly, nature balances the inflow of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. If human emissions increase the inflow by 5 percent, the carbon dioxide level will rise until outflow equals inflow, which will occur when the carbon dioxide level has risen by 5 percent.

However, in this analogy, the IPCC claims if humans, not nature, created the new river, then the dam will magically stop over 60 percent of the new river’s inflow from flowing out over the dam. IPCC’s trapped inflow will raise the level of the lake without letting the trapped water flow out. The lake rise will build a vertical wall of water above the dam, held in place by nothing!

Analogy #3


You try to pump up a balloon (or inner tube) that has leak in it. The greater the air pressure inside the balloon, the faster the air leaks out. If you pump at a constant rate, you create a constant inflow of air into the balloon. The balloon, in response, will reach a pressure that causes the outflow of air to equal the inflow.

If you pump faster, the balloon will contain more air at a higher pressure. If you pump slower, the balloon will contain less air at a lower pressure. But there will always be a balance level where outflow equals inflow.

Similarly, the greater the inflow of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, the greater the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. The greater the level, the faster the outflow. When outflow equals inflow, the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere will remain constant.

(end analogies)

This paper presents the physics that explains the above analogies and shows why IPCC’s climate claims are fundamentally and scientifically wrong.

Many authors have agreed that human emissions are insignificant to the level of atmospheric carbon dioxide, even though they used different methods to derive their conclusions. Revelle and Suess (1957), Star (1992), Segalstad (1992, 1996, 1998, 2009), Rorsch, Courtney, & Thoenas (2005), Courtney (2008), Siddons & D’Aleo (2007), MacRae (2008, 2015), Essenhigh (2009), Glassman (2010), Wilde (2012), Caryl (2013), Humlum et al. (2013), Salby (2012, 2015, 2016), Berry (2016), and Harde (2017) concluded that human emissions cause only a minor change in the level of atmospheric carbon dioxide.

This paper addresses the same general subject as Harde (2017) and provides additional support for Harde’s key conclusions:

Under present conditions, the natural emissions contribute 373 ppm and anthropogenic emissions 17 ppm to the total concentration of 390 ppm (2012). For the average (1/e) residence time we only find 4 years.

These results indicate that almost all … observed change of carbon dioxide during the Industrial Era followed, not from anthropogenic emission, but from changes of natural emissions.

This paper differs from Harde (2017) in its in-depth focus on the physics of carbon dioxide flows into and out of the atmosphere, and in its explanation of why the IPCC and its Bern model are fundamentally wrong.

To keep the discussion simple, this paper converts all GtC (Gigatons of Carbon) units into the equivalent carbon dioxide units of ppm (parts per million by volume in dry air), using:

1 ppm = 2.13 GtC

Swan (2017) wrote the IPCC is “generally regarded as the world’s leading authority on global warming.” Yet, the IPCC does not follow the scientific method, which says evidence can prove a theory wrong but cannot prove a theory right. The IPCC ignores that science proceeds by negating theories, not by discarding evidence that negates theories.

Preview to Sections 2 and 3
Fig. A previews Sections 2 and 3 of this paper. Fig. A shows three columns that represent the percentages of human and natural carbon dioxide in three views. Each column adds up to 100 percent. The orange colors represent human-produced carbon dioxide and the blue colors represent nature-produced carbon dioxide.



Quote:
Fig. A. Inflow into the Atmosphere is 5 percent human and 95 percent natural. The Model shows the Atmosphere will be a fingerprint of Inflow. This contradicts the IPCC claim that human emissions cause 30 percent Atmosphere carbon dioxide.
The three columns in Fig. A show the following:

Inflow: All parties agree the annual Inflow of carbon dioxide into the Atmosphere is 5 percent human-caused and 95 percent natural-caused.
Atmosphere: “Section 2. The Model” shows why the percentages of human and natural carbon dioxide in the Atmosphere will be a fingerprint of the Inflow, at equilibrium.
IPCC: “Section 3. IPCC’s Invalid Model” shows why the IPCC claim, that human emissions cause 30 percent of the present carbon dioxide in the Atmosphere, is invalid.
In summary, Sections 2 and 3 show why the IPCC claim regarding the first question is wrong.

2. The Model
2.1 Derivation
The (Berry) Model derived below describes how nature adjusts the level of atmospheric carbon dioxide until outflow equals inflow. Nature thereby balances both natural and human emissions of carbon dioxide.

The Model includes the level of atmospheric carbon dioxide and the rates of carbon dioxide inflow and outflow. The Model does not include levels for Land and Ocean because additional levels do not change the conclusions of the Model.

The Model follows the same basic structure as Berry (1967). A model is composed of levels and rates of flow between levels. Levels determine the rates and the rates set the new levels.

Fig. 1 illustrates the Model.



Quote:
Fig. 1. The system used to derive the Model includes the level (concentration) of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and the inflow and outflow of carbon dioxide.
The Model does not include the causes of the inflow because the causes do not affect the conclusions of the Model. Therefore, Henry’s Law is not included.

The Model contains only the first power of the level. Therefore, the Model satisfies Raoult’s Law and Dalton’s Law. Dalton’s Law of partial pressures states,

The total pressure exerted in a mixture of non-reacting gases is equal to the sum of the partial pressures of the individual gases.

Raoult’s law states about liquids,

The partial vapor pressure of each component of an ideal mixture of liquids is equal to the vapor pressure of the pure component multiplied by its mole fraction in the mixture.

Therefore, the Model applies independently and in total to human-produced carbon dioxide, nature-produced carbon dioxide, carbon-14 carbon dioxide, etc.

The Model follows the Equivalence Principle. The Equivalence Principle says if data cannot tell the difference between two things then the two things are identical. The Equivalence Principle is a foundation of Einstein’s theory of general relativity. It says the inability to distinguish between gravitational and inertial forces means they are the same thing.

The Equivalence Principle applies to climate physics because nature cannot tell the difference between human-produced and nature-produced carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. Therefore, valid climate models must treat human-produced and nature-produced carbon dioxide the same.

The Model needs only two equations – the Continuity Equation and the Ideal Gas Law. The continuity equation assures that carbon atoms are conserved...

Keep Reading
.
__________________
"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."

-MLK Jr.
  tehmackdaddy is offline Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2019, 02:06 PM   #1559
O.Z.O.
rude and offensive
 
O.Z.O.'s Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: indoors
Posts: 20,758
Posting Frequency


Casino cash: $388901
My Mood


O.Z.O. should plot to take over the world, they're that goodO.Z.O. should plot to take over the world, they're that goodO.Z.O. should plot to take over the world, they're that goodO.Z.O. should plot to take over the world, they're that goodO.Z.O. should plot to take over the world, they're that good
O.Z.O. should plot to take over the world, they're that goodO.Z.O. should plot to take over the world, they're that goodO.Z.O. should plot to take over the world, they're that goodO.Z.O. should plot to take over the world, they're that goodO.Z.O. should plot to take over the world, they're that goodO.Z.O. should plot to take over the world, they're that goodO.Z.O. should plot to take over the world, they're that goodO.Z.O. should plot to take over the world, they're that goodO.Z.O. should plot to take over the world, they're that goodO.Z.O. should plot to take over the world, they're that goodO.Z.O. should plot to take over the world, they're that good
So...0bama is leading the climate change pack, yet he and Big Mike buy a mansion on an island that, if we are to believe this cockamamie claptrap, won't be there in 12 years...?
__________________
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]


#FBaltimore: their coach, and their fans too
  O.Z.O. is offline Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2019, 05:44 PM   #1560
O_P_T
Why Be Normal
 
O_P_T's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Windsor, CT
Posts: 20,678
Posting Frequency


Casino cash: $809875
My Mood


O_P_T makes Greek statues weep in jealousyO_P_T makes Greek statues weep in jealousyO_P_T makes Greek statues weep in jealousyO_P_T makes Greek statues weep in jealousy
O_P_T makes Greek statues weep in jealousyO_P_T makes Greek statues weep in jealousyO_P_T makes Greek statues weep in jealousyO_P_T makes Greek statues weep in jealousyO_P_T makes Greek statues weep in jealousyO_P_T makes Greek statues weep in jealousy
Quote:
Originally Posted by tehmackdaddy View Post
.
__________________
I AM PATRIOTS

"Some day I want to see them raise up on their piss-soaked hind legs and howl, "Jesus Christ, it's the Goddamned Patriots again and that son-of-a-f*cking-bitch Belichick".
Paraphrasing George S. Patton
  O_P_T is online now Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
hot air, tmack

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:48 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Template-Modifications by TMS
All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective owners. Patriots Planet is not affiliated with the NFL or with the New England Patriots. The views and opinions on this forum do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the owners and/or operators of this forum and website.