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Old 12-18-2018, 04:38 PM   #31
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One of the recent Andrew Sullivan columns does a decent job. The contention is basically that humans seem to have a need to have an object of religious worship, the faith in which can't be dislodged through reason. Somehow, Orange Thief got himself into this position with some people. He is like a religion to some.

They will twist any and everything so that this schlockmeister isn't at fault. He doesn't mean his own lies.

Scary. Funny as fuck, but disconcerting.

(BTW, Sullivan lumps atheism in with this same need)


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Yeah I enjoyed that article a lot (I'm also an Andrew Sullivan fanboi so take that for what it's worth).

It also something I've noticed on both the left and right that the tone of the conversation for some really does take on some of the worst aspects of religious behavior (far left wing "heresey" purges for example.)

For all it's flaws, religion does seem to fill a need for most humans and as the older established religions fail to do so, people start to look elsewhere. Sometimes that manifests itself in healthy ways, other times it doesn't. I'd classify the Trump cultists and the "SJWs" as examples I could personally do without

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What kind of weak shit is this? Spit in my mouth or GTFO
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Old 12-18-2018, 04:48 PM   #32
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I don't think it's nearly that deep and is much more simple than that. But even if it were some cultish devotion to political ideology that can't be dislodged through reason, I would say it's an epidemic that doesn't know left-right, party or political boundaries. Whether it's a discussion of random political, social or identity issues parts of both sides are so staunchly set in their opinions, so rigid in the face of fact after fact that it borders on willful ignorance, so purposefully obtuse that they can't be taken seriously.
Not sure if you read the article Ben referenced (you should IMO) but Sullivan was very clear this is a bi-partisan phenomenon.

(Link to the article: http://nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2...mpression=true )

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Old 12-18-2018, 04:51 PM   #33
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Not sure if you read the article Ben referenced (you should IMO) but Sullivan was very clear this is a bi-partisan phenomenon.

(Link to the article: http://nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2...mpression=true )

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I didn't read it yet (but I will), am in the middle of a Travelers season 3 binge. I can write during a binge, but reading/comprehending is a bit off lol.
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I think that the bump stock ban and the end of border wall is Trumps' signal he will not be running in 2020. There is 90% of his support. Meet the new swamp, same as the old swamp.
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I think that the bump stock ban and the end of border wall is Trumps' signal he will not be running in 2020. There is 90% of his support. Meet the new swamp, same as the old swamp.
I would suggest that the swamp we have right now with the dozens and dozens of ethics violations, favoring lobbyists, using taxpayer money as their private checkbooks with no repercussions, is quite a bit worse than the swamp before this.

Exhibit A: Ryan Zinke, who thankfully is gone but not done with the investigations that will follow him.
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I would suggest that the swamp we have right now with the dozens and dozens of ethics violations, favoring lobbyists, using taxpayer money as their private checkbooks with no repercussions, is quite a bit worse than the swamp before this.

Exhibit A: Ryan Zinke, who thankfully is gone but not done with the investigations that will follow him.
Because an ethical ass fucking of the American people by their elected officials is much preferred to the unethical ass fucking we have now?

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I think that the bump stock ban and the end of border wall is Trumps' signal he will not be running in 2020. There is 90% of his support. Meet the new swamp, same as the old swamp.
He's not going to make it to 2020
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Old 12-20-2018, 09:18 PM   #38
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Flynn- well done

No permanent Sec Def, Chief of Staff, AG, burning through NSAs...

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I am all alone (poor me) in the White House waiting for the Democrats to come back and make a deal on desperately needed Border Security. At some point the Democrats not wanting to make a deal will cost our Country more money than the Border Wall we are all talking about. Crazy!</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1077255770725601280?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 24, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Old 12-24-2018, 08:28 PM   #40
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So you're saying you would rather support a criminal and unindicted co-conspirator than a democrat? A man who has lied or told falsehoods to the American people in excess of 6,200 times in less than two years?

But please enlighten me on how he is and would be better than any other possible candidate in this country?

Smart choice.
I just now seen this, so I would respond now. If I had to choose between a known hot head, idiot on social media, etc. Over a potential criminal (misuse of classified emails on private server), someone who made some decisions I don’t agree with, etc. I would vote third party. I will respect anyone in that office and criticize them of any decision they make (I don’t agree with a sudden and complete withdrawal out of Syria), it needs to be gradual. I like his idea of term limits in congress but knew he would have to get it passed by 75% of the people it would retire out of office and who would vote for that. I like a southern border walk, but didn’t expect Mexico to pay for it. I wish he would act more adultish on social media but he doesn’t act like that (it seems) not on social media.

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I support him inasmuch as I support the office of POTUS but that is the extent of it. I didn't vote for him in 2016, and won't if he is still around to run in 2020. That said I am not surprised that people still support him because many of those people voted for him to shake shit up and he certainly has shaken it up, to it's core in some cases. Many others voted for him because they couldn't stomach the term President Clinton. As CF2TE pointed out, if given another choice between a shit sandwich and a shit milkshake he could see himself voting for the shit milkshake again just to keep the shit sandwich out of the chair. And as I pointed out, all of these KNOWN flaws from his business life, and ones that reared their heads on the campaign trail, were not enough to dissuade them from voting him into office. It CAN'T be shocking that many of them would vote for him again.
Yes! It would be like choosing your own method of dying in a death penalty. The end result would’ve been the same. Actually I think it would’ve been worse under another Clinton president. Mostly because that congress would’ve been red while the White House blue.
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I think we get 46 by July 4, 2019.


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Only by way of assassination.

I hope not, because Pence would be much worse and much less entertaining.
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