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Old 10-10-2019, 05:35 PM   #451
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I'd say it's a strong indicator.

Aside from domestic propaganda, what, precisely, qualifies these countries as "Despotic" but excludes the United States? I'm curious what the standards are.
In America's foundling principles it is the only country that codified the protection of individual rights as sacrosanct therefore in it's original founding principles it's the only moral nation in history.

The fact that we aren't living up to that promise does not give us the moral equivalence of a tyrannical, anti-life, anti-west government.
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Old 10-11-2019, 06:40 AM   #452
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In America's foundling principles it is the only country that codified the protection of individual rights as sacrosanct therefore in it's original founding principles it's the only moral nation in history.

The fact that we aren't living up to that promise does not give us the moral equivalence of a tyrannical, anti-life, anti-west government.
So....in theory, but not in practice.

I can accept that.
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Old 10-11-2019, 06:47 AM   #453
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So....in theory, but not in practice.

I can accept that.
I don't buy into the theory/practice dichotomy. If it's legit in theory it's legit in practice.

This dichotomy has been used forever in the Communism debate and it is epically false.
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I don't buy into the theory/practice dichotomy. If it's legit in theory it's legit in practice.

This dichotomy has been used forever in the Communism debate and it is epically false.
So, as long as there is a piece of paper somewhere that says, in essence, "This is not a despotic nation", then the actual reality of the governance doesn't matter, the country cannot be considered despotic?

I must be confused by what you're trying to say.

Because if that's the case, then Nazi Germany was never a dictatorship because on paper it was always a democracy.

I'm sure that's not what you're saying.

At any rate, I take the opposite view, I think. Whatever is on paper is irrelevant, I judge a government strictly by it's actions. I don't need to know the history or what it's Constitution says to tell you whether it is despotic or not.

It kind of seems like you need to know a lot of stuff about a nation in order to figure out whether it is despotic or not. That doesn't make sense to me.
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