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Old 02-21-2017, 10:33 AM   #91
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I didn't say Milo said that. I am saying only what I wrote in my post. 5 and 13 year olds aren't able to make those decisions. They are too young. They lack the experience and maturity required. Those are MY words.

Regardless of what Milo meant to convey, if it were a liberal that said those words they would be hung. You simply can't speak so wildly and irresponsibly about this topic and not be seen as a fool or potentially sick.


I am not trying to be argumentative.
I see someone isn't familiar with Salon.
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Old 02-21-2017, 10:45 AM   #92
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I see someone isn't familiar with Salon.

...would be hung by conservatives.....


I should have added this. Sorry, I wasn't clear in that post.
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Old 02-21-2017, 10:59 AM   #93
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...would be hung by conservatives.....


I should have added this. Sorry, I wasn't clear in that post.
An interesting clarification. What you seem to be saying is that Team Republican would engage in the same game of "gotcha" that Team Democrat would.

While I certainly appreciate the interest in being consistent, perhaps a more productive approach would be to move away from these Tribalist games we keep playing with each other and stop trying to apply nefarious motivations and character slanders towards those we disagree with politically?

Whether you agree with what Milo said or even meant or not, it's very hard to argue he supports pedophilia when he's talking about the age of consent and the general messiness that is human sexuality.
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Old 02-21-2017, 11:39 AM   #95
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An interesting clarification. What you seem to be saying is that Team Republican would engage in the same game of "gotcha" that Team Democrat would.

While I certainly appreciate the interest in being consistent, perhaps a more productive approach would be to move away from these Tribalist games we keep playing with each other and stop trying to apply nefarious motivations and character slanders towards those we disagree with politically?

Whether you agree with what Milo said or even meant or not, it's very hard to argue he supports pedophilia when he's talking about the age of consent and the general messiness that is human sexuality.
Agree on all points.
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I didn't say Milo said that. I am saying only what I wrote in my post. 5 and 13 year olds aren't able to make those decisions. They are too young. They lack the experience and maturity required. Those are MY words.

Regardless of what Milo meant to convey, if it were a liberal that said those words they would be hung. You simply can't speak so wildly and irresponsibly about this topic and not be seen as a fool or potentially sick.


I am not trying to be argumentative.
Ye gods! We agree.


I don't get those that seem to be bending over backwards to defend the idiotic words of this desperate provocative attention seeker (Milo, not aloyouis).
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The funniest thing about Milo, is that he is completely irrelevant and has no effect on policy or politics whatsoever. He's not even American.

The only useful purpose he serves is to poke thin skinned SJW's and make them even more insane than they normally are.
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The funniest thing about Milo, is that he is completely irrelevant and has no effect on policy or politics whatsoever. He's not even American.

The only useful purpose he serves is to poke thin skinned SJW's and make them even more insane than they normally are.
And now asshole Provocateur has provoked too hard and is reaching the end of his 15 mins.

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Old 02-21-2017, 11:52 AM   #99
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Ye gods! We agree.


I don't get those that seem to be bending over backwards to defend the idiotic words of this desperate provocative attention seeker (Milo, not aloyouis).
Probably has something to do with the accusation (Milo is teh pedooooooo!!!) being completely at odds with what he's talking about (the age of consent for teenagers).

But I get it, we don't like Milo so we're not even going to bother figuring out if he actually believes what he's being accused of. Just grab those pitchforks and cry "Team Democrat!!!

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And now asshole Provocateur has provoked too hard and is reaching the end of his 15 mins.

Good.
Yay for smears against people we disagree with! That will totally never be used against us at some point!
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Probably has something to do with the accusation (Milo is teh pedooooooo!!!) being completely at odds with what he's talking about (the age of consent for teenagers).

But I get it, we don't like Milo so we're not even going to bother figuring out if he actually believes what he's being accused of. Just grab those pitchforks and cry "Team Democrat!!!

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Yay for smears against people we disagree with! That will totally never be used against us at some point!
CPAC is 'Team Democrat' now? Interesting.

Accept that this tool is offensive across a wider spectrum than that, and that that is what he intends.

He has succeeded!
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An interesting clarification. What you seem to be saying is that Team Republican would engage in the same game of "gotcha" that Team Democrat would.

While I certainly appreciate the interest in being consistent, perhaps a more productive approach would be to move away from these Tribalist games we keep playing with each other and stop trying to apply nefarious motivations and character slanders towards those we disagree with politically?

Whether you agree with what Milo said or even meant or not, it's very hard to argue he supports pedophilia when he's talking about the age of consent and the general messiness that is human sexuality.
If I could magically change one thing in American Politics at this moment it time it would be that each side would focus on the policies of the other, not their own supposition about the intent of the other side.

We've managed some really good discussions about policies and even philosophies in here, but once you get into intent, it gets all stupid time.

Start with "the person I am debating is neither stupid not evil"

If you start with this presumption, you can have a debate about policy. If you start with "you are a moron" or "you are in league with Satan" there really is no point to even trying to discuss it.
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If I could magically change one thing in American Politics at this moment it time it would be that each side would focus on the policies of the other, not their own supposition about the intent of the other side.

We've managed some really good discussions about policies and even philosophies in here, but once you get into intent, it gets all stupid time.

Start with "the person I am debating is neither stupid not evil"

If you start with this presumption, you can have a debate about policy. If you start with "you are a moron" or "you are in league with Satan" there really is no point to even trying to discuss it.
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Accept that this tool is offensive across a wider spectrum than that, and that that is what he intends.

He has succeeded!
I told you people that months ago. Hell Milo himself will tell you the same thing.

I'm not saying don't critisize what he says, I'm just saying to make that critisism accurate and it's not accurate to say he supports pedophilia.

But again I get it, he's "bad" so it doesn't matter if what we say about him is accurate, just as long as it paints him as "bad."
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This guy Milo I had never heard of before this thread and the Berkeley riots.
He's a fringe lunatic and he's more well known on account of people complaining about him than for anything meaningful. If people would just ignore him he'd be gone already which I hope is soon.
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If I could magically change one thing in American Politics at this moment it time it would be that each side would focus on the policies of the other, not their own supposition about the intent of the other side.

We've managed some really good discussions about policies and even philosophies in here, but once you get into intent, it gets all stupid time.

Start with "the person I am debating is neither stupid not evil"

If you start with this presumption, you can have a debate about policy. If you start with "you are a moron" or "you are in league with Satan" there really is no point to even trying to discuss it.
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