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Old 05-28-2020, 11:40 AM   #2206
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"Verbis" is dative plural.



That's like saying "The Words of God" rather than "The Word of God". It's not used.



You won't find "Nullius in Verbis" in a list of Latin phrases.


Oh dear god.
Sometimes I forget that I’ve taught Latin for 20 years.
I know it’s not “verbis”. Your translation would require it to be “verbis”.
“Verbis” is dative OR ablative plural.
Verba is accusative plural.
In + accusative = onto, into, or against.
So, nullius in verba = onto the words of no (master).
It’s a quote from Book 1 of Horace’s Epistles, which I read every year.
People mistranslated Latin all of the time.
Carpe diem doesn’t mean seize the day, either.


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Old 05-28-2020, 12:06 PM   #2207
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Your translation would require it to be “verbis”.
“Verbis” is dative OR ablative plural.
Verba is accusative plural.
In + accusative = onto, into, or against.
So, nullius in verba = onto the words of no (master).
It’s a quote from Book 1 of Horace’s Epistles, which I read every year.
People mistranslated Latin all of the time.
Carpe diem doesn’t mean seize the day, either.


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Ah, that makes sense!

I actually like your translation of the bolded part, and it's no doubt more accurate than mine.

I was more or less trying to emphasize that it is often misunderstood to mean "Don't take another's word for it", or something thereabouts, but in reality it means something more like "Don't believe authority just because it is the voice of authority".

Your clarification does that nicely, thank you.

EDIT: Oh, and thanks for the "carpe diem" also, which I believe means something more along the lines of "stop and smell the roses", or "take a moment to enjoy the moment".
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Old 05-28-2020, 12:19 PM   #2208
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Ah, that makes sense!

I actually like your translation of the bolded part, and it's no doubt more accurate than mine.

I was more or less trying to emphasize that it is often misunderstood to mean "Don't take another's word for it", or something thereabouts, but in reality it means something more like "Don't believe authority just because it is the voice of authority".

Your clarification does that nicely, thank you.

EDIT: Oh, and thanks for the "carpe diem" also, which I believe means something more along the lines of "stop and smell the roses", or "take a moment to enjoy the moment".


Baron, even when we disagree, I’m still a fan of yours, so no worries.
Carpo, carpere is a farming verb meaning to harvest, pluck, or reap.
Now, to be fair, the idea behind the phrase is still very similar or identical to “seize the day”; but Horace loved his pastoral and agricultural imagery, just like his friend Vergil.


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... just like his friend Vergil.


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Was that Vergil Earp?

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81% of Minnesota COVID-19 Deaths Are from Nursing Homes, but Facilities Still Allowed to Admit Positive Patients

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...tive-patients/

I know. I'm probably getting very repetitive with my disgust over the states that didn't seem to give a damn about those in nursing homes, but I don't know that I will ever be able to get over it because I find it horrific.
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81% of Minnesota COVID-19 Deaths Are from Nursing Homes, but Facilities Still Allowed to Admit Positive Patients



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I know. I'm probably getting very repetitive with my disgust over the states that didn't seem to give a damn about those in nursing homes, but I don't know that I will ever be able to get over it because I find it horrific.
Absolutely horrific.

The suffering this has caused is incalculable and insanely inexcusable.

These peoplle responsiblle must pay dearly.

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May 28 2020 17:59:58 (EST) #4347

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1187829299207954437

Coincidence or foreknowledge?
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Trump officially announces that we're walking out on the WHO. Solid fucking move. They're in China's back pocket anyway and their failure at the beginning of the spread of this thing cost the countries who hadn't been hit with it yet.
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Just saw that a 48 year old police officer in Rutland, MA passed away from COVID 19. No other issues, it just got into his organs and he passed away this morning.
Very sad.
His wife documented his entire experience on FB; they both got it, but he experienced the shortness of breath which led to his hospitalization.
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