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View Poll Results: How do Manning's receivers in Denver compare to what he had in Indy?
Indy's weapons were better and deeper 11 40.74%
Indy's weapons were better, but top heavy. Denver is deeper 7 25.93%
Denver's weapons are equal in quality and depth 3 11.11%
Denver's weapons are better and deeper 4 14.81%
Manning only plays with zombies 2 7.41%
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:29 PM   #46
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PFM? Does that stand for Peyton "fail" Manning?
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Eli > Peyton.
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Let me guess... They end up on his forehead like a big drydock?
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How many of them are going to the Hall of Fame without a ticket?

Because Harrison, Wayne and James most likely are. Jacob Tamme...wow...

(Also, how is Decker accurate, exactly?)
You think Edge gets into the Hall?

Not arguing cause I loves me some edge just not sure I'd consider him a HOF rb
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You think Edge gets into the Hall?

Not arguing cause I loves me some edge just not sure I'd consider him a HOF rb
12,246 yds rushing, 80 rush TD, 15,610 combined yds, 91 total TD

Similar careers to: Tiki Barber, Thurman Thomas*, Marshall Faulk*, LaDainian Tomlinson, Emmitt Smith*, Eric Dickerson*, Roger Craig, Barry Sanders*, Ricky Watters, Lydell Mitchell

There's a lot of hall of famers in that group, and to me, he's as good as any of them

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12,246 yds rushing, 80 rush TD, 15,610 combined yds, 91 total TD

Similar careers to: Tiki Barber, Thurman Thomas*, Marshall Faulk*, LaDainian Tomlinson, Emmitt Smith*, Eric Dickerson*, Roger Craig, Barry Sanders*, Ricky Watters, Lydell Mitchell

There's a lot of hall of famers in that group, and to me, he's as good as any of them

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...J/JameEd00.htm
His biggest knock is that he played with Manning for most of his career. Having a HoF QB to open lanes in the running game is an obvious knock, especially when you consider that his YPC and scoring production were pretty bad after he left Indy.
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His biggest knock is that he played with Manning for most of his career. Having a HoF QB to open lanes in the running game is an obvious knock, especially when you consider that his YPC and scoring production were pretty bad after he left Indy.
He was also injured/done. He wasn't the same guy after the 2nd injury.

That said, you could say Marshall Faulk or Thurman Thomas or Emmitt Smith weren't shit without a HoF QB. The last two weren't shit after they left Buffalo/Dallas.

Also, 12K yds is 12K yds. I don't care who you played with.
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12,246 yds rushing, 80 rush TD, 15,610 combined yds, 91 total TD

Similar careers to: Tiki Barber, Thurman Thomas*, Marshall Faulk*, LaDainian Tomlinson, Emmitt Smith*, Eric Dickerson*, Roger Craig, Barry Sanders*, Ricky Watters, Lydell Mitchell

There's a lot of hall of famers in that group, and to me, he's as good as any of them

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...J/JameEd00.htm
I'd give him the Edge over most of them (just not Dickerson or Sanders).
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He was also injured/done. He wasn't the same guy after the 2nd injury.

That said, you could say Marshall Faulk or Thurman Thomas or Emmitt Smith weren't shit without a HoF QB. The last two weren't shit after they left Buffalo/Dallas.

Also, 12K yds is 12K yds. I don't care who you played with.
Ya, I wasn't saying he doesn't belong. I was more playing devil's advocate because those are the same arguments I've heard come up when his candidacy is discussed.
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