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Old 01-25-2008, 12:06 PM   #91
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Old 01-25-2008, 12:17 PM   #92
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Old 01-25-2008, 12:39 PM   #93
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Wow. I am amazed by your Grandfather. And you as well. What love. How beautiful.
X2. I've "felt" the writer's intentions in several of these, but yhis one was the most intense, I think. I felt this one very much.
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X2. I've "felt" the writer's intentions in several of these, but yhis one was the most intense, I think. I felt this one very much.



Thanks tom, its amazing how free words flow when you care about something or someone. I could've went on for hours
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Thanks tom, its amazing how free words flow when you care about something or someone. I could've went on for hours
Go ahead. I'm sure there are plenty of folks that would enjoy it.
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Not my grandfather but...

Went out to dinner with my dad and his wife this past weekend and we were talking about this thread.....

My dad's wife... Her father ( who I guess technically is my step-grandfather, although I really don't consider her my step-mother considering I was 30 when my dad married her ) was in the 101st. For those who aren't familiar with that one ( although I'm sure most are ) that is the airborne division that Band of Brothers is about.

Spielberg actually pays for all the guys and their wives to fly over to Normandy every year, which impressed me.
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My Paternal Grandfather worked under Sen. Joe McCarthy, seeking out communists throughout the Northeastern US. Occasionally my Dad finds info on him on the internet, and has a bunch of literature on him, including a pic of him with Sen. McCarthy. He was sort of his right hand man, but a few steps down. He was very close to McCarthy, though.

My Maternal Grandfather was killed during the bombing of London, and my mother was only three at the time. Don't know what he did for work, though.
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My grandfather, whom I was very close to and spent a lot of time with on a regular basis, passed away on the morning of Super Bowl Sunday. It was not unexpected, but it is always a shock to lose someone close to you, no matter what their age or health is.

I just wanted to share with you all the passing of a true hero, in my eyes, so here are a few things about him...

He was very poor as a child. Both of his parents were dwarves, and as such there was no work for them, particularly in the depression. He used to go to the fish market and buy or dig out from the trash unwanted fish heads to take home so his mother could make stew. He used to go to the train yard and tracks to gather coal that had fallen so his family could have heat. He suffered a lot of painful abuse from his peers due to his parents' condition.

When the war came, he lied about his age to join the Army. He eventually served in the Army, the Navy, and the Air Force. With the GI bill, he educated himself as an engineer, and worked on the Manhattan Project.

He got married and had 3 children, one of whom, my aunt, turned out to be mentally retarded (the term that was used). He was instructed by the social services to have her sent to a home, the infamous Walter Fernald State School for the handicapped. For those who don't know, back in the 50's and earlier, a handicapped child was considered an embarassment and ostracized. They would be sent away to these schools and forgotten, where they were often abused, both physically and mentally, and were the unwilling subjects of human experiments, volunteered by the state for these studies. Those who could not afford these schools often kept these children hidden in the basement, or the attic, and not allowed to come out if there was anyone around who might see them. They were generally not acknowledged by their own parents when the parents were asked about their children.

My grandfather brought her to the school, had a look around, didn't like what he saw, and took her home. She was raised by my grandmother and taught to cook, clean, do laundry, set the table, and basic household chores.

In the meantime, my grandfather was a founder of a group called the Association of Retarded Citizens, who fought for the rights of these persons, and for better treatment, and hellped establish support for people who wanted to raise their children at home, just like any other child. He helped fight for the right for these people to work, and be treated as human beings.

Today, my aunt has held the same job for 36 years, and lives in her own apartment, does her cooking, cleaning, shopping, and laundry. She has an assistant that helps her get through life, much like those who help the elderly in assisted living. She has an IQ that is too low to measure, has speech problems, and cannot drive, but she is friendly, social, has countless friends at her job, and is almost entirely self sufficient. She was one of the first to be given a chance at life like any other.

So, the next time you see a mentally handicapped person greeting you at Sam's Club, bagging your groceries at the store, or emptying trash or sweeping the floors, try and remember what these people used to be treated as, unwanted animals, to be shunned and ostracized.

That person you see is my grandfather's legacy. He changed our society. He made society realize that we have a responsibilty to treat those who have handicaps with human decency and respect. He fought for the rights they always deserved, but were never given, because they had no voice.

So, for all he did for me, in my life, and for the honorable and brave service to his country, and for his contribution to make us a better society, he will always be a hero to me.
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That's a fantasic story Baron. Your Granddad's a man to be admired. I'm sorry he passed so recently.
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Thanks again for sharing this Baron. Your grandfather was the man...sorry for your loss...but at least he was something in this world...to you and to others as well.
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I agree, it is too bad we do not spend time learning from the elderly, I go visit my Dad these days, He is in rehab trying to get his legs back under him, and I sit and talk to all the patients. I think I can learn more from listening to them for a couple hours than I could reading for a week.

it is a shame that elderly are pushed to the side, these men and women gave their all so we can live in the world we do with the luxuries we have and many times they are just forgotten, shoved into a corner to look out the window as the world passes them by
I worked in a nursing home when I was a kid. It was facinating (and sad) at times. I heard stories about the Boer War in S. Africa, the Spanish American War, and even the Spanish Civil War from a volunteer. People liked to talk about what happened in their youth. One lady w/dementia always thought I was a traffic cop on Moody Street Waltham while I was mopping the floor. She would breathlessly tell me about a jewelry store robbery that she thought was actively taking place on Moody Street that must have actually taken place in the twenties or thirties. It was sad but interesting that she was reliving that incident just about everyday. I used to think about researching jewelry store robberies on Moody Street to see what really happened.
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Wow, what a great thread! I just spent to way to long reading through all of it! But I enjoy the history of it.....

My paternal grandfather was a dairy farmer, his father (my great grandfather) had come over from the Netherlands, bought some land, and raised dairy cattle. I remember "milk trucks" coming to the farm as a kid. His wife, my paternal grandmother was a teacher, but after she married she stopped working to raise their 4 children. My father was actually the "milkman" for the farm when he was first married, and I was a young child, delivering the glass bottles of milk to homes in the area (remember the ones with the paper tops? Or am I just old?)

My maternal grandfather worked in a textile mill in Mass, my grandmother rised 5 children- 4 boys and then 12 yrs later, a girl, my mother. Can you imagine supporting a family of 7 on one salary now?
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I've already listed what my paternal grandfather did.

My maternal grandfather was part of the Invasion of Italy in '43, had awesome stories about it, real front lines stuff (he was a Ranger and a paratrooper). He worked at Songo Shoe (those of you from Maine will know who they were, I used to get free Herman Survivors every couple years while I was a kid, still the best boots I've ever owned) for 40 years.
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Played 20 years in the majors pitching for the cards and pirates.
first ball player to wear glasses and hence the nickname specs.
Pitched 2 world series one in 1927. (lost his games but they won and he got them there being the ace that year..then again he faced murders row). I read he used to go to the plate umpire and asked him if he wanted to borrow his glasses Had a nasty curve ball.
Was a pauper after baseball eventually paralyzed from a stroke.

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Also a pitcher. Not that famous..a relief pitcher on the same team. ( I bet thats how my parents met;-) Served as a cook on a naval ship in WW1. Later became a sheriff in Lake Co, Fla and was in on the capture of the famous outlaw Ma Barker. Then sold real estate and died of cancer.

my dad was a combat pilot in the Flying Tigers (non avg) in WW2 china.

me? eh.......

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Welll...

My grandfater was a WWII veteran, pretty high ranked in the military.

Later he got a high position with the Boston Globe. He was very involved with politcs. My mother met Billy Bulger, some of the Kennedy family. My grand father was irish, so like any Irish politicial figure he was involved in the Kennedy election.
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