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Old 07-11-2019, 04:36 PM   #2296
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What will you do if Mahomes throws for 30 TD passes next year and never repeats his level of production? I know you think he's the second coming and all but what if he's actually the next RG3? What then?

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Old 07-11-2019, 11:10 PM   #2297
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50/5000 isn't a lucky season. It's awesomeness which comes from being awesome.
He won't be throwing 50/5000 next year. He lucked out big time. But I'm sure you already have an excuse already prepared when he doesn't repeat.
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Old 07-12-2019, 09:17 AM   #2298
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He won't be throwing 50/5000 next year. He lucked out big time. But I'm sure you already have an excuse already prepared when he doesn't repeat.
Won't be an excuse so much as it will be an explanation as to why 30/3800 is actually better than 50/5000.
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Old 07-12-2019, 10:48 AM   #2299
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Won't be an excuse so much as it will be an explanation as to why 30/3800 is actually better than 50/5000.
I just don't see him putting up Brady like numbers unless he's injured for half the season.
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Old 07-12-2019, 10:53 AM   #2300
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I just don't see him putting up Brady like numbers unless he's injured for half the season.
true...definitely won't put up Brady like numbers in the win column...
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Old 07-12-2019, 12:56 PM   #2301
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I just don't see him putting up Brady like numbers unless he's injured for half the season.
Here we go again with your, "Stats are more important than Lombardis."

We went through this when Manning was putting up stats and collecting regular season MVP awards but Brady won the superbowls.

You know, like Mahomes and Brady did last year.
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Here we go again with your, "Stats are more important than Lombardis."

We went through this when Manning was putting up stats and collecting regular season MVP awards but Brady won the superbowls.

You know, like Mahomes and Brady did last year.
I know , I know, but your feast is coming to an end shortly. The next dynasty is getting ready to evolve.
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I know , I know, but your feast is coming to an end shortly. The next dynasty is getting ready to evolve.
You mean the Browns? From a football history perspective it'd be cool for them to be relevant again but I'm not sure if their organization can actually pull it off. I guess time will tell.
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You mean the Browns? From a football history perspective it'd be cool for them to be relevant again but I'm not sure if their organization can actually pull it off. I guess time will tell.
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The Browns will be interesting to watch this year.
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I know , I know, but your feast is coming to an end shortly.
We've been hearing that for years. In Feb 2002 it was, "It was a fluke. Brady is a one-year wonder."

Sooner or later the feast will come to an end, that's true. If you say this year after year, you will have looked foolish for two decades, but eventually you'll be right. I suppose.

But not this year

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LOL

The Browns will be interesting to watch this year.
Yeah, the Browns could be it, but Dan Synder specialized in collecting talent and it got him nowhere. There's more to a winning team than fantasy football.

But, definitely the Browns have potential and I'll be watching with interest. Especially after Thanksgiving. They might struggle the first half of the season, but if they gel....watch out
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We've been hearing that for years. In Feb 2002 it was, "It was a fluke. Brady is a one-year wonder."

Sooner or later the feast will come to an end, that's true. If you say this year after year, you will have looked foolish for two decades, but eventually you'll be right. I suppose.

But not this year
Honestly , I hope Brady continues to stay as productive as he has been.

#1... It's awesome to watch someone defeat father time. And I do like TB.
#2... The Chiefs are going to need some competition.
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but Dan Synder specialized in collecting talent and it got him nowhere.
that's because for all the talent he collected at various positions he never got a coach or a quarterback.
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that's because for all the talent he collected at various positions he never got a coach or a quarterback.
He had a decent QB in Patrick Ramsey. Unfortunately his shit-for-brains HC Spurrier ruined the kid.

Delicate line between a group of talented players and a team, but having a FF stable of great WRs and RBs means little IMO without a cohesive team and as you say, coach/QB combo.
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The Browns' lack of team experience could cause them to unravel early.

The big hurdles for the Browns are to develop a winning attitude and the mental toughness to overcome the lack of experience in winning the biggest games. The Browns have talent but none of that talent has actually experienced an NFL team with a winning mindset. OBJ will help a bit but his Giants didn't win anything great either. I think Mayfield is and will continue be a great NFL player; it's possible he can lead them deep into the playoffs but in my mind the lack of player and coaching experience are both lacking to pull them through.

Their schedule to begin the season is tough & has 3 prime time games early.
1. Titans (toss up leaning to a L)
2. at JETE MNF (W but barely beat the Jete last year)
3. Rams SNF (L)
4. at Ravens (toss up leaning to a L)
5. at 49ers MNF (toss up since it's away on Monday night)
6. Seahawks (toss up leaning to a L)
7. bye
8. at Patriots (L)
9. Broncos (toss up)

Look at their first 4 home games. 3-1, 1-3 or 2-2? Browns fans have unrealistically high expectations and a few early unexpected losses to the Titans, JETE and Ravens could bring out wide spread negativity and anger that could make the whole thing unravel. Heck, they could be 2-6 by the half way point with losses to the Titans, Rams, Ravens, Seahawks, Pats & Broncos. Even if they beat the Titans and Broncos they're 4-4 and it doesn't get much easier the rest of the way.

10. Bills (W but it won't be easy)
11. Steelers TNF (toss up leaning to a W)
12. Dolphins (W)
13. at Steelers (L)
14. Bengals (W)
15. at Cardinals (W - but hoo boy this one will be fun)
16. Ravens (toss up leaning to a W)
17. at Bengals (W)

Getting to the playoffs is a pretty big first hurdle. The Colts did it last year but the Browns didn't. Baby steps. To me 9-7 wouldn't be a failed year and 10-6 with a playoff berth would be an outstanding step forward. For Browns fans anything less than 11-5 & a playoff win would be a disaster. Most Browns fans are actually expecting at least 12 wins (http://www.barkinghard.com/forums/sh...r-Browns-2019&). Talent wise maybe but the lack of team culture is a big hurdle to overcome.
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