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Old 11-06-2019, 02:10 PM   #61
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Did you just start watching the Pats this year? Good god man, we're only half way into the season with 1 loss and now you're saying the Pats can't beat the Ravens at home? Do you think they won't make any changes and adjustments to their game plan?

BB is the gold standard when it comes to facing the same team twice in one season, especially when it comes to the playoffs. I don't give anyone a chance when it comes to playing the Pats at home in the playoffs and especially in the AFCCG.
I don't think the Patriots have the personnel on either side of the ball to stop Baltimore. If they get the Ravens in Foxboro, it'll take everything to beat them by one point. I'd rather play KC on the road than Baltimore anywhere. This team is Belichick's kryptonite and Harbaugh isn't afraid of him whatsoever. IMHO, the Ravens are the best team in football and are built for January.

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actually, this isnt true, I think he is 0-5 in last 5 rematches into the playoffs.

I am too lazy to confirm that but I heard something like that on the radio.
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I don't think the Patriots have the personnel on either side of the ball to stop Baltimore. If they get the Ravens in Foxboro, it'll take everything to beat them by one point. I'd rather play KC on the road than Baltimore anywhere. This team is Belichick's kryptonite and Harbaugh isn't afraid of him whatsoever. IMHO, the Ravens are the best team in football and are built for January.

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Old 11-06-2019, 02:45 PM   #63
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I don't think the Patriots have the personnel on either side of the ball to stop Baltimore. If they get the Ravens in Foxboro, it'll take everything to beat them by one point. I'd rather play KC on the road than Baltimore anywhere. This team is Belichick's kryptonite and Harbaugh isn't afraid of him whatsoever. IMHO, the Ravens are the best team in football and are built for January.

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They lost to the Browns that put up 40 points on them and the game wasn't even close. We'll just have to agree to disagree, I'll trust in BB to do what needs done for the rest of the season.
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of course I want to see the Jets in the playoffs, or the Dolphins but I do not fear the Ravens. I am not a big fan of the coach, I tihnk he is more Thomlin than Belichick in so many ways it can't compare. They made a HUGE point out of him finding someone to look into rules and shit... oh like Bill did with Ernie Adams decades ago... come on now, relax Frankie, they are not that good - familiarity is key with gimmick offenses.


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I do think he found two coordinators to help him but remember Keap had a game like that against NE with the same Co-ordinator, will Jackson again? And on defense this clown thinks he is Rex Ryan posing with the chain out - that shit will be running down his leg in the playoffs. They just had their superbowl.
I would buy your point if I felt it were a gimmick Offense. It isnít. Itís a lot of RPO, with exceptional blocking. We donít have the personnel to win the line. When that happens you donít get off the field, wear down, and get your poop pushed in. Thatís what happened.

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I've always maintained that the best way to beat a Patriot D scheme is to feature guys that don't usually get a lot of touches and Harbaugh is one of the few that did so with the immortal Nick Boyle having a big night.

Which reminds me that it is sickening to see some of the no-name (yet) young TEs all around the league contributing and making great plays. It's a pretty long list, but we had Ryan Griffin in camp for a while, cut him and he's had a couple of nice weeks for the Jets. Even Jacob Hollister caught the winning TD for Seattle.

Yep, we've got some improving to do in all three phases, but TE has been an absolute disaster so far. Gotta be the worst in the league. No question in my mind that it should have been addressed before it got to this Gronk or no Gronk.
Agree. We donít have A TE that blocks like them. They have 3.

I love Develin. But their guy is a beast and playing.

Itís a poor matchup at best. Will coaching a second time around help? Maybe. But thatís not gonna make us bigger, stronger, tougher.
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I would buy your point if I felt it were a gimmick Offense. It isnít. Itís a lot of RPO, with exceptional blocking. We donít have the personnel to win the line. When that happens you donít get off the field, wear down, and get your poop pushed in. Thatís what happened.

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Agree. We donít have A TE that blocks like them. They have 3.

I love Develin. But their guy is a beast and playing.

Itís a poor matchup at best. Will coaching a second time around help? Maybe. But thatís not gonna make us bigger, stronger, tougher.
BB should start using one of the backup linebackers or de's for blocking more. They would work better imo.
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BB is the gold standard when it comes to facing the same team twice in one season, especially when it comes to the playoffs. I don't give anyone a chance when it comes to playing the Pats at home in the playoffs and especially in the AFCCG.
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Did you just start watching the Pats this year? Good god man, we're only half way into the season with 1 loss and now you're saying the Pats can't beat the Ravens at home? Do you think they won't make any changes and adjustments to their game plan?

BB is the gold standard when it comes to facing the same team twice in one season, especially when it comes to the playoffs. I don't give anyone a chance when it comes to playing the Pats at home in the playoffs and especially in the AFCCG.


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You missed the most important part of what I said, at home. The only team to beat the Pats twice in one season and one of those wins were in Gillette during the AFCCG, was the 2012 Ravens, best defense in the NFL and a pretty damned good offense to boot.
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I think BB will have something planned for them if they meet in the postseason. Nothing is guaranteed, but, maybe Wynn comes back...maybe even AB? Who knows...
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I think BB will have something planned for them if they meet in the postseason. Nothing is guaranteed, but, maybe Wynn comes back...maybe even AB? Who knows...
All you have to do is take away their run game and force Jackson to beat you with his arm. It's so simple A caveman could do it!
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no way Luck could do that
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You missed the most important part of what I said, at home. The only team to beat the Pats twice in one season and one of those wins were in Gillette during the AFCCG, was the 2012 Ravens, best defense in the NFL and a pretty damned good offense to boot.
The Pats currently have a single game lead on the Ravens for home field.

They need to keep pace.
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The Pats currently have a single game lead on the Ravens for home field.

They need to keep pace.
They've got some tough games coming up, Niners, Rams, Bills, and possibly the Browns, I don't see them running the table and yes, I am aware of the Pats schedule but they have most of their tougher games at home.

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You missed the most important part of what I said, at home. The only team to beat the Pats twice in one season and one of those wins were in Gillette during the AFCCG, was the 2012 Ravens, best defense in the NFL and a pretty damned good offense to boot.
Yes we are great at home, and I feel comfortable that we can win at home even if someone beats us during the regular season. So I agree with you 100%.

Just a quick point, the Jets did beat us in 2010 week 2 28-14. A lot of haters like to talk about the 45-3 game then the loss in the playoffs to the Jets. But they actually beat us that season, so win in the divisional round is not as surprising as the haters like to say.

I will say those two looses to NYJ '10 and Balt '12 were against a Pats team that was not the strongest of the run. I feel more confident with the present version to hold serve at home come playoff time..

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The Pats currently have a single game lead on the Ravens for home field.

They need to keep pace.
Yah the head to head games can swing things. From being 3 games up in loss column with head to head tiebreaker, to only 1 up in loss column without head to head.

I think we can keep pace with the Ravens and even expand our lead given their schedule. But things have gotten a little tighter.

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Yes we are great at home, and I feel comfortable that we can win at home even if someone beats us during the regular season. So I agree with you 100%.

Just a quick point, the Jets did beat us in 2010 week 2 28-14. A lot of haters like to talk about the 45-3 game then the loss in the playoffs to the Jets. But they actually beat us that season, so win in the divisional round is not as surprising as the haters like to say.

I will say those two looses to NYJ '10 and Balt '12 were against a Pats team that was not the strongest of the run. I feel more confident with the present version to hold serve at home come playoff time..
My bad, forgot about the Jetes.

If we can get Devlin back the run game should pick up.
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My bad, forgot about the Jetes.

If we can get Devlin back the run game should pick up.
Devlin is gone for the season.
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