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Old 06-08-2018, 11:17 AM   #1
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June 8th, 1967

Today (June 8) marks the 51st anniversary of Israel’s attack upon the USS Liberty, a defenseless United States Navy technical research ship, while she floated in international waters flying a 4’x7’ American flag, which flew straight out on that clear breezy day in 1967.

The unprovoked attack killed 34 Americans and maimed 173 more crew members. An ignominious act that the governments of Israel and the U.S. want the public to forget.

In honor and respect for the victims we should not allow this to happen. Never forget.


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Cover-Up Alleged in Probe of USS Liberty

A former Navy attorney who helped lead the military investigation of the 1967 Israeli attack on the USS Liberty that killed 34 American servicemen says former President Lyndon Johnson and his defense secretary, Robert McNamara, ordered that the inquiry conclude the incident was an accident.

In a signed affidavit released at a Capitol Hill news conference, retired Capt. Ward Boston said Johnson and McNamara told those heading the Navy's inquiry to "conclude that the attack was a case of 'mistaken identity' despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary."

It was “one of the classic all-American cover-ups,” said retired Admiral Thomas Moorer, a former Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman who spent a year investigating the attack as part of an independent panel he formed with other former military officials. The panel also included a former US ambassador to Saudi Arabia, James Akins.

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Fifteen years after the attack, an Israeli pilot approached Liberty survivors and then held extensive interviews with former Congressman Paul N. (Pete) McCloskey about his role. According to this senior Israeli lead pilot, he recognized the Liberty as American immediately, so informed his headquarters, and was told to ignore the American flag and continue his attack. He refused to do so and returned to base, where he was arrested.

Later, a dual-citizen Israeli major told survivors that he was in an Israeli war room where he heard that pilot's radio report. The attacking pilots and everyone in the Israeli war room knew that they were attacking an American ship, the major said. He recanted the statement only after he received threatening phone calls from Israel.

The pilot's protests also were heard by radio monitors in the U.S. Embassy in Lebanon. Then-U.S. Ambassador to Lebanon Dwight Porter has confirmed this. Porter told his story to syndicated columnists Rowland Evans and Robert Novak and offered to submit to further questioning by authorities. Unfortunately, no one in the U.S. government has any interest in hearing these first-person accounts of Israeli treachery. [Washington Report]

Israel attacked the USS Liberty using UNMARKED AIRCRAFT. This is the single fact which proves Israel knew exactly who they were attacking. Israel's story is that they thought USS Liberty was an Egyptian ship and therefore a legitimate target of war. Were that true, there would be no reason to attack a supposedly Egyptian ship with unmarked aircraft. The only possible reason to use unmarked aircraft to attack the ship is that Israel knew it was an American ship and intended to sink it, then to blame the attack on Egypt.

Moorer, who as top legal council to the official investigation is in a position to know, agrees that Israel intended to sink the USS Liberty and blame Egypt for it, thus dragging the United States into a war on Israel's behalf. This seems to be a common trick of Israel. Starting with the Lavon affair, through the USS Liberty, to the fake radio transmitter that tricked Reagan into attacking Libya, to potentially 9-11 itself, Israel's game is to frame Arabs and set them up as targets for the United States.

The official US investigation is discredited. And with it, every claim of innocence for Israel that relied on the official investigation as a source.

The real question facing the American people is why the US Government seems more concerned with protecting Israel after they are caught playing these dirty tricks, rather than doing something to convince Israel not to kill any more Americans.


http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/WR...ssliberty.html


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
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Today, June 11th, in 1776, the Contintental Congress appointed Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Benjamin Franklin, Roger Sherman, and Robert Livingston to draft the Declaration of Independence.

The original draft that was given to congress contained the following passage, written by Thomas Jefferson;

He has waged cruel war against human nature itself, violating its most sacred rights of life and liberty in the persons of a distant people who never offended him, captivating & carrying them into slavery in another hemisphere or to incur miserable death in their transportation thither. This piratical warfare, the opprobrium of infidel powers, is the warfare of the Christian King of Great Britain. Determined to keep open a market where Men should be bought & sold, he has prostituted his negative for suppressing every legislative attempt to prohibit or restrain this execrable commerce. And that this assemblage of horrors might want no fact of distinguished die, he is now exciting those very people to rise in arms among us, and to purchase that liberty of which he has deprived them, by murdering the people on whom he has obtruded them: thus paying off former crimes committed again the Liberties of one people, with crimes which he urges them to commit against the lives of another.

This created an uproar in congress and was struck from the document, resulting in 85 more years of slavery.
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Very apropos...

This day in history, June 12th, 1987;



I remember this fairly well, because I was interested in the Berlin Airlift..another event my grandfather had a hand in.

I remember the media reacting very negatively to it at the time.

I remember them laughing at him for being naive, and I remember them excoriating him for saying "every man is a Berliner", hearkening to JFK's famous "Ich bin ein Berliner" (literally translated "I am a donut"). The media thrashed him saying things like "Mr.Reagan, you are no JFK" and stuff like that.

It was a lot like Trump today.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.
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The US Army was founded on June 14, I think.
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Today is also the birthday of famous abolitionist Harriet Beecher Stowe, who wrote Uncle Tom's Cabin.

She also wrote a book called Oldtown Folks, which is a novel about Natick, MA, and the people who lived there, but with the names changed to fictional characters. She had relatives in Natick and spent significant time there. You can still see the "Old Stowe House" in South Natick...

In fact, if you are in the area, I recommend visiting South Natick sometime...the Old Stowe House, the Bacon Library, the Charles..it's a pleasant place to visit for lunch on a summer day.

Harriet Beecher Stowe was also the sister of one of my personal heroes, Henry Ward Beecher....who's birthday is coming up, too, so I'll save that one.
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Baron, no love for the Magna Carta?

Arguably the inception of limits on the power of government.
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Arguably the inception of limits on the power of government.
Just a little over 700 years from the Magna Carta to the Constitution, but somehow we think we can introduce democracy to a despotic regime and expect it to all work out in a month or two.
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This day in history, June 16th 1904

Leopold Bloom analogizes Ulysses long Journey home from the Trojan War in his infamous Pub Crawl of Dublin.


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While we're talking about this day in history, let's put down June 16, 2018...today.

It will be remembered in future decades as the day the president of the United States lied to the American people about democrats refusing to allow babies, toddlers and children who have been ripped away from their parents and held in concentration camps to be reunited with their parents when all he has to do is make a phone call to end his own policy.

This will be remembered as a very dark day in history.
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https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/...ids-at-border/

Any thoughts? Is this true! Just wondering.
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While we're talking about this day in history, let's put down June 16, 2018...today.

It will be remembered in future decades as the day the president of the United States lied to the American people about democrats refusing to allow babies, toddlers and children who have been ripped away from their parents and held in concentration camps to be reunited with their parents when all he has to do is make a phone call to end his own policy.

This will be remembered as a very dark day in history.
I doubt it.

Yes I know you find Trump repulsive, but quite frankly IMHO, your vitriol far exceeds any of the "hate Obama" drivel that those on the far right spouted in the before time.
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What part are you asking if it's true?

That there is an "incentive" for illegal immigrants to bring their children with them?

I would suggest that PFL's post proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that the answer is yes.
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There is noting histric about the current POTUS making statements that have no relation to objective fact

which is #sad
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which is #sad
You know, since literally stopped literally meaning literally, I'm less inclined to accept claims of "lying" or "fact" as being "literally correct".

Politicians have always used "spin" to skirt "truth".

One determines it as "eh" or "liar, liar, pants on fire" based simply on whose ox is gored.
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