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Old 05-14-2017, 11:30 AM   #16
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IMO, this thread is either a joke, experiment or a reach out for help.
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Old 05-14-2017, 11:37 AM   #17
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I wouldnt. I am NOT going to have children.
Based on what you've posted here so far that seems like a good idea for the time being.

Sort yourself out. You don't have to be miserable. You just have to be willing to make the right changes. Whatever it is that causing you to feel this way has been dealt with before by other people.

If they can do it, you can do it. You just have to be willing to.
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IMO, this thread is either a joke, experiment or a reach out for help.
None of those three. Look up antinatalism. It is a legitimate, recognized philosophical position.
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Based on what you've posted here so far that seems like a good idea for the time being.

Sort yourself out. You don't have to be miserable. You just have to be willing to make the right changes. Whatever it is that causing you to feel this way has been dealt with before by other people.

If they can do it, you can do it. You just have to be willing to.
I appreciate the encouragement, even if it is from a Colts fan

I am going to fight until the bitter end, but it doesnt mean im not going to be miserable along the way.

A lot of my misery stems from my awareness. I am much more aware than a lot of the population. Unfortunately, there's not too much that psychiatric help can do about that. It's simply a matter of wiring...

My circumstance should just drive home all the more why people should not have children. I wish my parents hadnt created me and spared me all this $hit. Some of that $hit was their issues and how me and my siblings have suffered as a result.
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I appreciate the encouragement, even if it is from a Colts fan

I am going to fight until the bitter end, but it doesnt mean im not going to be miserable along the way.

A lot of my misery stems from my awareness. I am much more aware than a lot of the population. Unfortunately, there's not too much that psychiatric help can do about that. It's simply a matter of wiring...

My circumstance should just drive home all the more why people should not have children. I wish my parents hadnt created me and spared me all this $hit. Some of that $hit was their issues and how me and my siblings have suffered as a result.
And the whipped cream on your misery must be that nobody wants to listen to this unbearable self -pity.
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I agree. Im not saying we shouldnt fight for good. I'm just saying we shouldnt create any more people.
Antinatalism is giving up though. There's too much suffering in the world so let's end humanity.

I don't think that you or anyone personally needs to have children, and there certainly will come a point where we need to consider how many people this planet can sustain, but the belief that people that do have children in the hopes of raising them for a better future are committing an "evil" is ridiculous IMO.
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And the whipped cream on your misery must be that nobody wants to listen to this unbearable self -pity.
I dont want your sympathy.

Im just giving people perspective on what can happen when you bring someone into this world, and therefore why it is a bad idea to bring people into this world...
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None of those three. Look up antinatalism. It is a legitimate, recognized philosophical position.
I refuse to consider a "philosophy" that results in the extinction of humanity "legitimate."
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Antinatalism is giving up though.
False. You can still make the best of life while you are here. Just dont bring anyone else into the world.

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I don't think that you or anyone personally needs to have children, and there certainly will come a point where we need to consider how many people this planet can sustain, but the belief that people that do have children in the hopes of raising them for a better future are committing an "evil" is ridiculous IMO.
Why would you create someone knowing that they could be raped, molested, shot, infected with an incurable disease, get cancer and have to go miserable cancer treatments where they struggle to make it through the day (seriously what kind of life is that?? Especially considering when they didnt need to exist in the first place....), get captured in a foreign country and tortured? All of that COULD happen, and once it happens, there's no fixing it.
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A lot of my misery stems from my awareness. I am much more aware than a lot of the population. Unfortunately, there's not too much that psychiatric help can do about that. It's simply a matter of wiring...
Respectfully, that's not it. You're miserable for one of two reasons. Either something is in your life that shouldn't be (drug or alcohol addiction for example) or there should be something in your life that isn't (IE, something to give your life meaning like an intimate relationship or children).

Yes, professional help can help you sort this out. If you're actually as miserable as you say you are, then you're doing something wrong.

Figure out what it is and fix it.
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I dont want your sympathy.
Good thing. You don't and won't ever have it. All's I can do hope (very unoptimistically) that you get help.

And pray that you don't slip up, bear a child or two and set about to dumping this sickness on them.
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Respectfully, that's not it. You're miserable for one of two reasons. Either something is in your life that shouldn't be (drug or alcohol addiction for example) or there should be something in your life that isn't (IE, something to give your life meaning like an intimate relationship or children).
I didnt say my awareness is the only reason. It is some of the reason, though.

I used to wonder how some people could not be miserable with some stuff, and somewhere along the line, I realized it's because they lack awareness and intelligence. If you dont notice something, it cant make you miserable.
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None of those three. Look up antinatalism. It is a legitimate, recognized philosophical position.
I did before my second post in this thread.
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I didnt say my awareness is the only reason. It is some of the reason, though.

I used to wonder how some people could not be miserable with some stuff, and somewhere along the line, I realized it's because they lack awareness and intelligence. If you dont notice something, it cant make you miserable.
The rest of us are not intelligent nor aware enough to be as miserable as you?


You definitely could use help. I hope you choose to get some.

Life can be so thoroughly enjoyable when you have family and finds to share it with. You are struggling mightily. What do you have to lose by seeing a therapist? And if you don't and things go further down hill:

https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/help-yourself/

There isn't a trace of sarcasm in this post. 100% genuine.
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I refuse to consider a "philosophy" that results in the extinction of humanity "legitimate."
Humanity going extinct would mean no more murder, no more rape, no more torture, etc. How is that bad?

Basically, you are willing to have all that stuff be possible in order for humanity to keep existing. Come on now, we arent THAT important. We arent worth saving.

You tell me what is good is about the Contras going into villages in Nicaragua, and forcing children to watch while they cut the skin of their father's face off and castrate him, and cut their mother's breasts off. And then sometimes, "for variety", they would reverse that and mutilate the children while the parents were forced to watch. The US government funded them. The Contras were a CIA destabilization operation.

If humanity would go extinct, nothing like that would ever happen again. But no, to you, the possibility of stuff like that happening is a price worth paying to keep humanity around. No. F*** that.
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