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Old 10-10-2017, 09:51 AM   #4861
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What you're saying is that this case is as good as closed.
No, it's a disater. It may be over someday if it get's to SCOTUS. Just sayin' what I think the law says. Not what ALL the idiots on both sides say.


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Old 10-10-2017, 09:54 AM   #4862
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The Militarisation of US society is a worry, the overt display in November goes way beyond paying respect.
This. How about at the game, instead of doing the normal everyone stand and cheer for these two military people here, how about they do it for a fireman, policeman or teacher? It's a football game, not a Red Square parade
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Old 10-10-2017, 10:01 AM   #4863
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By the same token one could say that it is a false narrative driven by the Left to avoid addressing the root causes that lead to the ultimate conclusions that these demonstrations are supposedly supposed to engage.

This is why I don't like discussing politics anymore...extremists on both sides control the conversation and nobody talks TO each other. I refuse to engage with a side that ignores both history and statistics just as much as I refuse to engage with a side that chooses to ignore core founding principles under the guise of hyper-patriotism.

Exactly.

Instead of disrespecting the flag during a very brief period in our lives dedicated to showing respect have a press conference post game. Start a real discussion on the topic. If announced beforehand you’d have a National ear.

Most are incapable.

This feels very bandwagon, without a lot of thought or educated opinion.
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Old 10-10-2017, 10:21 AM   #4864
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Exactly.

Instead of disrespecting the flag during a very brief period in our lives dedicated to showing respect have a press conference post game. Start a real discussion on the topic. If announced beforehand you’d have a National ear.

Most are incapable.

This feels very bandwagon, without a lot of thought or educated opinion.
and no clear identity to what the demo is about.

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Old 10-10-2017, 10:48 AM   #4865
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Where do Planateers stand on this, no pun intended.
As things are now, It's not something that bothers me.

And this could become really ugly.
Of course it can get ugly...and Trump is stoking up the fires along with the opposite side.
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This thread is starting to stray a bit. Can we bring the political part of this discussion over to the PF please?

Return this thread to just random football stuff.

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Old 10-10-2017, 11:18 AM   #4867
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Peterson traded to the Cardinals.

Saint, Cardinal, next up Pope. All like to abuse young boys so it makes sense.
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Old 10-10-2017, 11:28 AM   #4868
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Peterson traded to the Cardinals.

Saint, Cardinal, next up Pope. All like to abuse young boys so it makes sense.
Hats off to the Saints for getting anything for him!
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Old 10-10-2017, 01:42 PM   #4869
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This thread is starting to stray a bit. Can we bring the political part of this discussion over to the PF please?

Return this thread to just random football stuff.

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Old 10-10-2017, 03:44 PM   #4871
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I don't even know why NO signed AP - he clearly didn't fit Payton's system as all. At last they got something for him. Not sure he'll be much better with the Cards but he'll at least fit better into what Arians wants to do.
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Old 10-10-2017, 03:52 PM   #4872
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I don't even know why NO signed AP - he clearly didn't fit Payton's system as all. At last they got something for him. Not sure he'll be much better with the Cards but he'll at least fit better into what Arians wants to do.
What exactly does Arians want to do?

Other than lose games and publicly blame his players, that is.
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Old 10-10-2017, 03:57 PM   #4873
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What exactly does Arians want to do?

Other than lose games and publicly blame his players, that is.
haha good point. I just mean the system and formations are more conducive to using AP's skillset.
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haha good point. I just mean the system and formations are more conducive to using AP's skillset.
The Cardinals don't have anybody else that can fumble?
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The Cardinals don't have anybody else that can fumble?
They wanted an expert.
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