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Old 07-14-2008, 08:15 AM   #76
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Q" How exactly does season total yardage prove anything regarding an accurate downfield passing game or even a short for that matter ?

A: it doesn't !!

First off no one is saying anything about how passing downfield is the most important part of the game or being a QB...Im merely proving without a doubt Tom Brady sucks at it compared to most active & retired QB's...


So you say the game is about winning and your absolutely right... seems Marino is 2nd All Time in Victories with 155 only 5 less than #1 Favre & in 16 less games less Marino played I may add...making him yet again the "First" QB in History with such a great honorable accomplishment.

I don't think Brady or Montanna would ever or should ever be questioning the Greatest Pure Passing QB with the most victories of All Time about the importance of winning...nevermind and idiot like "YOU"!!!!


Im sorry did you just say brady sucks in downfield passing more than "most" active and retired players? Is that what you just said? Marino is second all time victories because of how long he played, if you want to go by winning pct, you want to know who leads that??? What is marino's playoff record? What is his ranking there? I like how winning regular season means everything to you, but winning in the playoffs is meaningless/ My god you cant be this stupid.
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I don't think Brady or Montanna would ever or should ever be questioning the Greatest Pure Passing QB with the most victories of All Time about the importance of winning...nevermind and idiot like "YOU"!!!!
you think with all the winning he did he might have won ONE Superbowl

Yup, I'm an idiot
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you think with all the winning he did he might have won ONE Superbowl

Yup, I'm an idiot


Or have over a .500 winning pct in the playoffs. 24 int's in 18 playoff games, getting it done!!
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I wonder why Montana doesn't have any records?

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"As far as putting Brady and Montanna in the same catagory is so wrong for 2 reasons...
1- Montanna was an excellent downfield passing QB, Tom has never been
2- Walsh & Seifer didn't steal opponants signals because they had great confidence in Montanna's abilty & arm, unlike Belichick* not believeing a weak inaccurate downfield arm like Brady's could do the job without help."



1. Beside the fact that montana also was a short pass Qb in the west coast syste, which you also have been explained about 500 times about.
2. How do you know what walsh did? They did manipulate the salary cap, so Im pretty sure they stole signals as well, since stealing signals is legal and all. Yeah brady cannot do the job without camera's, last year whn he broke every record there is, was obvious showing of that.
3. Do you ever get tired of being made to look stupid? brady won 3 superbowls before moss got there, oh yeah moss, remember you said he would fail horribly when he got here, I guess brady was able to make you wrong...again.
Your such a fool Midgar,,,

1- I haven't been proven anything once never mind 500 times...I posted Brady's "REAL" completion percentage at all distances & he "SUCKS" as you saw...prove that wrong...

and because Montanna ran the West Coast offense ...that has absolutely NOTHING" NOTHING to do with his accurate downfield passing ability.....and "YES: dipshit he passed downfield many many many a time & was damn fvcking good at it unlike Tom Brady

2- It was obvious the confidence Walsh had in 1 of the greatest QB's to ever take the field from HS to college to the pro's...same as Shulas confidence in Marino the first rookie QB to become a MVP & Probowler

3- The only one that looks stupid is Tom Brady modeling in Mens Panties for Vogue !!! Belichick*s everytime hes in a press conferance either lieeing or mumbling like 1 of Jerry's kids and Bob Kraft in that ass pink shirt he wears blurring all his drunken words out like a fool in front of the world...
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2- It was obvious the confidence Walsh had in 1 of the greatest QB's to ever take the field from HS to college to the pro's...same as Shulas confidence in Marino the first rookie QB to become a MVP & Probowler
Why no records then? according to YOU thats the measure of greatness...you can't have it both ways dumb dumb.
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Or have over a .500 winning pct in the playoffs. 24 int's in 18 playoff games, getting it done!!
Stop going around circles with your nonsense...I can post back the Greatest QB history making choke job in the playoffs..Brady vs the Giants...

If Brady ever had to face a Marino type defense Brady wouldn't be playing in the NFL..he;s not good enough...he's exactly what he is...a 6th round pick is a 6th round pick...

he would be fulltime wearing Mens Panties & taking pictures for Vogue if he had to actually have to throw a TD pass to win a big game...maybe he will get Eli's book so he can know what that feels like ... then afgain there isn't another QB in NFL history that knows what its like to model mens panties in public,...
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I'll ask again. WHY DOESN'T MONTANA HAVE ANY RECORDS? ACCORDING TO YOU DUMB DUMB THATS THE MEASURE OF GREATNESS AND ITS THE REASON BRADY SUCKS IN HIS FIRST SIX SEASON.
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Stop going around circles with your nonsense...I can post back the Greatest QB history making choke job in the playoffs..Brady vs the Giants...

If Brady ever had to face a Marino type defense Brady wouldn't be playing in the NFL..he;s not good enough...he's exactly what he is...a 6th round pick is a 6th round pick...

he would be fulltime wearing Mens Panties & taking pictures for Vogue if he had to actually have to throw a TD pass to win a big game...maybe he will get Eli's book so he can know what that feels like ... then afgain there isn't another QB in NFL history that knows what its like to model mens panties in public,...


So hold up, you are comparing brady who was 18-0 to that point who lead his team back to a go ahead score with 2 minutes left after a game in which he was hit 26 times and sacked 6 times a choke, but marino throwing 24 ints in 18 playoff games and losing more than he won, not choking.
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Why no records then? according to YOU thats the measure of greatness...you can't have it both ways dumb dumb.
Records & statistics are what measure talent...what else is there ??? listening to you frigin idiots automatically put Tom Brady & every Patriot player for that matter automatically at the top of every list no matter what he actually has done...

for instance Tom Brady 7 seasons was ranked 10th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 6th. 6th, 1st ... but yet you dipshits just place him above all the QB;s at #1. just like Bob Kraft medis & the NFL hyped up story to sell the league...

Yet Brady was out played & out performed by up to 8-9 other QB;as... and why does Brady recieve all this recognition & Ball Washing...because Adam Venitieri won 3 Superbowls for the NE Patriots on last minute clutch kicks & Belichick* stoled every opponants defenseive signsaals for Brady for 7 years...

Records & stats don't lie, aren't biased bullshit oppinions, they are what an athlete actually does on the field & how he actually performs in differant situation and ranks him against his competition etc... you god damn morons !!!.....if you don't use stats or records in your argument it is nothing but a meaningless bias bullshit oppinion...

And Joe Montanna does have records...and I have posted them a few times...I have no idea were you get that from...
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And Joe Montanna does have records...and I have posted them a few times...I have no idea were you get that from...[/QUOTE]

He's got, I think two. How many did he have in his first six seasons? I hope he has some or he sucked, right? you need to apply the same standards to everyone, stop changing the rules to fit your agaenda.

you need to back up your bullshit, you say brady sucks and didn't have any records in his first six seasons when he did in fact have several Super bowl records.
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I'll ask again. WHY DOESN'T MONTANA HAVE ANY RECORDS? ACCORDING TO YOU DUMB DUMB THATS THE MEASURE OF GREATNESS AND ITS THE REASON BRADY SUCKS IN HIS FIRST SIX SEASON.
Joe Montanna

8 - Probowls
3 - 1st team All Pro
# 1 - QB Passer Rating (1987 - 1989)
# 1 - TD passes (1982 - 1987)
# 1 - PYG 270.8 (1989)
# 1 - Passing TD % (1989)

these are just the #1's....there are alot more top 5 All Time records also...
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Records & statistics are what measure talent...what else is there ??? listening to you frigin idiots automatically put Tom Brady & every Patriot player for that matter automatically at the top of every list no matter what he actually has done...

for instance Tom Brady 7 seasons was ranked 10th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 6th. 6th, 1st ... but yet you dipshits just place him above all the QB;s at #1. just like Bob Kraft medis & the NFL hyped up story to sell the league...

Yet Brady was out played & out performed by up to 8-9 other QB;as... and why does Brady recieve all this recognition & Ball Washing...because Adam Venitieri won 3 Superbowls for the NE Patriots on last minute clutch kicks & Belichick* stoled every opponants defenseive signsaals for Brady for 7 years...

Records & stats don't lie, aren't biased bullshit oppinions, they are what an athlete actually does on the field & how he actually performs in differant situation and ranks him against his competition etc... you god damn morons !!!.....if you don't use stats or records in your argument it is nothing but a meaningless bias bullshit oppinion...

And Joe Montanna does have records...and I have posted them a few times...I have no idea were you get that from...



"for instance Tom Brady 7 seasons was ranked 10th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 6th. 6th, 1st "


Ranked in what?
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Take a look at this dumb dumb, it looks like the NFL records page has been updated.

http://www.nfl.com/history/randf/records/indiv/passing

I see Bradys name 6 times and Montanas 5 times

Doe's that mean Brady is better? how do you explain this Mr. records are everything?
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If Brady ever had to face a Marino type defense Brady wouldn't be playing in the NFL..he;s not good enough...he's exactly what he is...a 6th round pick is a 6th round pick...
Of all the dumb theories you've expressed, this has to rank as one of your best.


MONTANA WAS SELECTED IN THE 3RD ROUND

Is he what he is too? Just a 3rd rounder?


This is like wiffle ball
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