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Old 06-21-2012, 11:40 AM   #46
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I'm insane because I say it's a good idea to watch what the **** is going on?

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Old 06-21-2012, 11:43 AM   #47
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I'm insane because I say it's a good idea to watch what the **** is going on?

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Well, I think what he got from your post was a bit more than "watching." So may be a miscommunication. (For the record that was how I read your post also)

I'm ok with watching. I'm significanly less ok with fighting Russia and China in a proxy war. That sounds like a recipe for disaster IMO.
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Well, I think what he got from your post was a bit more than "watching." So may be a miscommunication. (For the record that was how I read your post also)

I'm ok with watching. I'm significanly less ok with fighting Russia and China in a proxy war. That sounds like a recipe for disaster IMO.
Yes, exactly.
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Well, I think what he got from your post was a bit more than "watching." So may be a miscommunication. (For the record that was how I read your post also)

I'm ok with watching. I'm significanly less ok with fighting Russia and China in a proxy war. That sounds like a recipe for disaster IMO.
Sorry about the miscommunication. Seems O_P_T and I suffer from that.

No doubt I wouldn't want to even entertain the idea of war with Russia and China. But, I sure hope we have that scenario scoped out to the nth degree.
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Well, I think what he got from your post was a bit more than "watching." So may be a miscommunication. (For the record that was how I read your post also)

I'm ok with watching. I'm significanly less ok with fighting Russia and China in a proxy war. That sounds like a recipe for disaster IMO.
Since it seems like it's a real possibility, it's too bad we didn't have bases in Iraq right on the border (like I advocated years back).

Just saying, [stuff] happens.
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Since it seems like it's a real possibility, it's too bad we didn't have bases in Iraq right on the border (like I advocated years back).

Just saying, [stuff] happens.
Having permanent military bases in the Middle East probably isn't the wisest idea.
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Yeah, that's the kind of [MikieMo's Filthy Naughty Word] that causes more problems than it's worth IMHO.
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Having permanent military bases in the Middle East probably isn't the wisest idea.
It would certainly make things easier, if we end up having to go fight there again.
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It would certainly make things easier, if we end up having to go fight there again.
Well, we haven't had to go fight there yet, IMO.
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No [MikieMo's Filthy Naughty Word].
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Well, we haven't had to go fight there yet, IMO.
While that's certainly a legitimate debate, it's not how things tend to play out.

I'm simply saying that it's likely we will keep going back every decade or two, until either, the people living there are able to overthrow the dictators (or whatever they call themselves these days), or someone else (like us) actually takes it over (for the long haul) and sets up a Gov't.
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While that's certainly a legitimate debate, it's not how things tend to play out.

I'm simply saying that it's likely we will keep going back every decade or two, until either, the people living there are able to overthrow the dictators (or whatever they call themselves these days), or someone else (like us) actually takes it over (for the long haul) and sets up a Gov't.
Do you have any idea how many dictatorships are in the world?

Dozens of them.

This World Police policy (cover for economic mercantilism) is going to bankrupt us, at the very least.

EDIT: At least the dictators keep their aggression within their own borders, for the most part.

Now that bombing people is so much easier, politically, with drones, we are bombing people every week in half a dozen countries. Ever heard the term "blowback"?
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Dozens of them.

This World Police policy (cover for economic mercantilism) is going to bankrupt us, at the very least.
And that's just in Africa.
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Algeria – Abdelaziz Bouteflika, President of Algeria
Angola – Mr. Jose Eduardo dos Santos, President of Angola
Azerbaijan – Ilham Aliyev, President of Azerbaijan
Bahrain – King Hamad bin Isa Al Khalifa, King of Bahrain
Belarus – Aleksandr Lukashenko, President of Belarus
Brunei – Sultan Haji Hassanal Bolkiah Mu’izzaddin Waddaulah
Cambodia – His Majesty King Norodom Sihamoni, King of Cambodia
Cameroon – Paul Biya, President of Cameroon
Chad – Idriss Deby, President of Chad
China – Hu Jintao, President of China
Congo, Dem. Rep. of – Joseph Kabila, President of Congo
Côte d’Ivoire – Laurent Gbagbo, President of Cote d’Ivoire
Cuba – Raul Castro, President of Cuba
Djibouti – Ismaïl Omar Guelleh, President of Djibouti
Egypt – Hosny Mubarak, President of Egypt
Equatorial Guinea – OBIANG NGUEMA MBASOGO, President
Eritrea – Isaias Afwerki, President of Eritrea
Ethiopia – Girme Wolde Giorgis, President of Ethiopia
Gabon – Albert-Bernard Bongo, President of Gabon
Iran – Mahmoud Ahmadi Nejad, President of Iran
Iraq – Jalal Talabani, President of Iraq
Jordan – King Abdullah II bin Al Hussein, King of Jordan
Kazakhstan – Nursultan Nazarbaev, President of Kazakhstan
Laos – Lieutenant General Choummaly Sayasone, President
Libya – Muammar Abu Minyar al-Gaddafi, Leader of Libya
Myanmar (Burma) – Thein Sein, Prime Minister of Myanmar (Burma)
North Korea – Kim Jong-il, President of North Korea
Oman – Qaboos bin Said Al-Said, Prime Minister of Oman
Qatar – Sheikh Hamad Bin Jassim Bin Jabr Al-Thani
Russia – Dmitry Anatolyevich Medvedev, President of Russia
Rwanda – Paul Kagame, President of Rwanda
Saudi Arabia – King Fahd bin Abdul Aziz, King of Saudi Arabia
Somalia – Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed, President of Somalia
Sudan – Omar H.A. Al-Bashier, President of Sudan
Swaziland – Mswati III, King of Swaziland
Syria – Bashar al-Assad, President of Syria
Tajikistan – Emomalii Rahmon, President of Tadjikistan
Tunisia – Zine el Abidine Ben Ali, President of Tunisia
Turkmenistan – Gurbanguly BERDIMUHAMEDOW, President of Turkmenistan
United Arab Emirates – Sheikh Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahyan
Uzbekistan – Islam Abdughanievich Karimov, President of Uzbekistan
Vietnam – Nguyen Minh Triet, President of Vietnam
Yemen – Ali Abdallah Salih, President of Yemen
Zimbabwe – Robert (Gabriel) Mugabe, President of Zimbabwe

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