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Old 02-21-2020, 09:52 AM   #541
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Sure. I just think thereís an obvious market for the right and no existing product.
I agree. I also believe you'd see the same phenomena that you see with talk radio. The right dominates that market.
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Old 02-21-2020, 10:01 AM   #542
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I agree. I also believe you'd see the same phenomena that you see with talk radio. The right dominates that market.
Yup.

Iím stunned they donít have an option. Just complain of Facebook and Instagram and everything else filtering to leftyís. If you had your own you could just point fingers at them and laugh. Maybe fart in their general direction.
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The right dominates that market.
Maybe because talk radio is about logical discussion and actual facts. It isn't always logical but it's how it's 'sposed to work. Why would the Left even try to compete for that market?

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Old 02-21-2020, 10:09 AM   #544
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Sure. I just think thereís an obvious market for the right and no existing product.
You and JL are defeating your own arguments.

If it were an obvious market for profit, someone would be doing it already.

That's not to say that what is true today will be true tomorrow.

But...of there were money to be made and a reasonable chance of success for a platform that allows right wing discussion or views, someone would be doing it, already, especially after 2016, and most especially going into 2020.

The fact that it doesn't exist should tell you something about reality, regardless of your political philosophy.

Sure...there are other platforms, even many that I am subscribed to....Guntube, Minds, Full 30, and myriad others I could list...maybe 5 or 6 more.

...and yet....they're not exactly booming in popularity and bathing in money.

Never forget...America is not a capitalist country, and our economy is not a capitalist economy. We pretend it is, but it isn't.
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Old 02-21-2020, 10:15 AM   #545
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You and JL are defeating your own arguments.

If it were an obvious market for profit, someone would be doing it already.

That's not to say that what is true today will be true tomorrow.

But...of there were money to be made and a reasonable chance of success for a platform that allows right wing discussion or views, someone would be doing it, already, especially after 2016, and most especially going into 2020.

The fact that it doesn't exist should tell you something about reality, regardless of your political philosophy.

Sure...there are other platforms, even many that I am subscribed to....Guntube, Minds, Full 30, and myriad others I could list...maybe 5 or 6 more.

...and yet....they're not exactly booming in popularity and bathing in money.

Never forget...America is not a capitalist country, and our economy is not a capitalist economy. We pretend it is, but it isn't.
social media is lazy, fueled by emotion and hardly deleterious in the support of facts and logic- ergo: the perfect incubator for Liberal ideology.
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social media is lazy, fueled by emotion and hardly deleterious in the support of facts and logic- ergo: the perfect incubator for Liberal ideology.
Not that, I mean the argument that there is money to be made by making a right wing or free speech platform.

There isn't.
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Not that, I mean the argument that there is money to be made by making a right wing or free speech platform.

There isn't.
That wasn't my argument.
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Not that, I mean the argument that there is money to be made by making a right wing or free speech platform.

There isn't.
won't agree or disagree with this until I see an actual attempt made.
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won't agree or disagree with this until I see an actual attempt made.
There are many alternatives already, ....I listed a few of them. The fact that you never heard of them goes to my argument.

Minds
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Many others.

Never heard of them, right?

Because there is no market. Most people are totally content with Facebook, Youtube, and Twitter. They work, all of their friends and family are there. They don't care about censorship, or privacy, or politics....or they wholeheartedly approve of censorship and left wing socialist messaging exclusively.

There is no economic gold mine in Free Speech.
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And the notion that something else won't come along because they have monopoly power has been so utterly disproven over last 150 years that it's almost not worth an argument.
I would agree if, as I said before, this was a free market. It is not.

Free speech = Russian interference. That's today...tomorrow it will be some other boogeyman. Government will either demand censorship, or make any free speech platforms liable for what gets posted on their site, and sued into oblivion for hate speech or some "manifesto" of some nutcase that kills a bunch of people, and all those families sue the business for the deaths of all their loved ones, and the dream of free speech, once again, gets crushed underfoot.

You think billionaires and investment capitalists are interested in that. I think not.
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There are many alternatives already, ....I listed a few of them. The fact that you never heard of them goes to my argument.

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Never heard of them, right?

Because there is no market. Most people are totally content with Facebook, Youtube, and Twitter. They work, all of their friends and family are there. They don't care about censorship, or privacy, or politics....or they wholeheartedly approve of censorship and left wing socialist messaging exclusively.

There is no economic gold mine in Free Speech.
No, it's not a lack of a market, it's a lack of a marketing message. You can sell anything to anybody, you just have to appropriately target and present to your audience. These people are not doing that. The Libs have embraced digital marketing, the Right hasn't yet...outside of Trump. One of the reasons Democrats hate him so much is that he's better at it than they are.
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No, it's not a lack of a market, it's a lack of a marketing message. You can sell anything to anybody, you just have to appropriately target and present to your audience. These people are not doing that. The Libs have embraced digital marketing, the Right hasn't yet...outside of Trump. One of the reasons Democrats hate him so much is that he's better at it than they are.
I hope you're right....

..but it's been no big secret for 5 years now that the right is being censored. Kind of seems like if something was going to happen any time in the near future, it would have happened, already.
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You and JL are defeating your own arguments.

If it were an obvious market for profit, someone would be doing it already.

That's not to say that what is true today will be true tomorrow.

But...of there were money to be made and a reasonable chance of success for a platform that allows right wing discussion or views, someone would be doing it, already, especially after 2016, and most especially going into 2020.

The fact that it doesn't exist should tell you something about reality, regardless of your political philosophy.

Sure...there are other platforms, even many that I am subscribed to....Guntube, Minds, Full 30, and myriad others I could list...maybe 5 or 6 more.

...and yet....they're not exactly booming in popularity and bathing in money.

Never forget...America is not a capitalist country, and our economy is not a capitalist economy. We pretend it is, but it isn't.
I suspect one factor is sponsorships. What are sponsors gonna face if they DARE piss off the left? Frightening prospects.

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..but it's been no big secret for 5 years now that the right is being censored. Kind of seems like if something was going to happen any time in the near future, it would have happened, already.
The Right is just at a point where they're not comfortable stepping outside of their comfort zone. Might be because they see what happened to the Left with talk radio- Err America was a stuttering, clusterfuck of a dumpster fire and they have been unsuccessful in capturing air space. It's almost as if each side shores up their strengths and cedes their weaknesses to their opponents.
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