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Old 04-18-2017, 08:26 AM   #31
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If the offers are good, both are gone. I can see Butler going to the Saints for #32 and a 2nd or 3rd. I can see Jimmy G going to Cleveland for #12, and maybe another mid-round pick (or even as high as their mid-2nd rounder, but I doubt they get the #12 and the #33).

Right now the Pats don't draft until #72 (8th pick in the 3rd round). Can you imagine if the Pats go from having that, to also having #12, #32, and a couple of 2nd/3rds? The haters' heads would absolutely explode.
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Old 04-18-2017, 11:48 AM   #32
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I just wish Blount would quit dicking around and sign his contract.


I thank Blount very much for what he has contributed to our last two championships.. But I'm ready to move on from him for a rookie or cheap FA who can be a power back.

But if he wants to re-sign for the veterans minimum (plus a few incentives) I would certainly be fine with bringing him in to compete for a spot in camp.
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You are correct and it needed clarification. But as you say there is no good reason for him not to sign the tender on Friday or shortly after.

Butler does not sound stupid enough to play the holdout game. Let's hope that he and the Patriots work something out.
Yes, there is no reason fro him not to sign the tender after the 21st, especially if he wants a trade, but don't underestimate how clueless some players could be. When Peppers was a Panther he kept making noises about be being traded but hadn't signed his tender.

My bad, I meant to tie the possibility of Butler holding out to his being dumb enough not to sign the tender and the Patriots doubling down on dumbness by cutting his pay to under $1 mil. At that money, there is little point for him to risk injury by playing the first ten games at under $53,000 a game.

It shouldn't come to that. Butler should be smart enough to sign his tender, and the Pats should be smart enough to realize that $3.9 mil is a great price for his services for a year.
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Old 04-18-2017, 01:14 PM   #34
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If Jimmy Garapolo is on the roster the day training camp opens I will assume TB is beginning his last season as a Patriot.

Butler is a win/win. Worst case you have him for another year at short money and he wants to prove he's worth a major deal, of if the pot is sweet enough you can move him.
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If Jimmy Garapolo is on the roster the day training camp opens I will assume TB is beginning his last season as a Patriot.
I think that is a rash assumption. I mean look how long Cassell stuck around as the backup.


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I doubt very much the that the browns give up two first round picks. Not going to happen imo. I honestly think they will go with what they have because the real qb they want won't be coming out until next year.
Most mock drafts have them taking Watson with the #12 overall. Be interesting to see how it works out.
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If they are waiting until #12 to take Watson, good luck with that.
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Butler signed his tender today.
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Old 04-19-2017, 05:33 AM   #39
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Butler signed his tender today.
And I hear a trade is in the works.
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:( I don't want him to be traded.
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And I hear a trade is in the works.
To which team? the Saints?
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To which team? the Saints?
Sorry but I can't give specifics, just that an offer was made to the Pats a few days ago which BB is currently mulling over. Butler had to sign his tender to be traded. Since Butler has signed his tender...
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Old 04-19-2017, 05:52 AM   #43
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Report Out of New Orleans Says Patriots and Saints Have an Agreement to Trade Malcolm Butler for the 32nd Pick

http://www.barstoolsports.com/boston...the-32nd-pick/
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Report Out of New Orleans Says Patriots and Saints Have an Agreement to Trade Malcolm Butler for the 32nd Pick

http://www.barstoolsports.com/boston...the-32nd-pick/

The should get more than #32, a 4th should be added.
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The should get more than #32, a 4th should be added.
I think it has always been a Cooks/Butler deal so we get #32 back and maybe swap back picks in the 3rd and 4th rounds.

And even though I agree with Jerry that I would rather have a top CB over a top WR, the deal still favors the Pats as Cooks is 4 years younger and under cost control for two seasons. Also, when your QB is the GOAT, having a receiver like Cooks is always a huge positive.
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