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Old 04-30-2018, 06:29 AM   #1291
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So we check backgrounds when the license is first given out, we check it again when a firearm is purchased, we check it again when there's a license renewal every 3 to 5 years, and then again at each subsequent purchase. and than repeat the cycle on and on. Wow. Doesn't sound much like the 2nd Amendment.
Well federal law mandates you run a a check through NICS on every purchase already. You donít need a license to purchase a rifle in most states. We have age restrictions too. We should do the same with voting. IDs should be mandatory and you should have to prove your a citizen, and not a felon.

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Our license renewals are longer then 3 years. A lot can happen in 3 years which is why I feel the background checks at point of purchase are really important. Cruz would and did pass a check just saying. A drunk driver could kill multiple people before their renewal. Me personally would prefer both, I do feel having the most current information possible at the point of purchase would be of the utmost importance.

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The Drunk driver would lose his license, same as the no longer law abiding gun owner.

Think about it this way. The background check database is cross referenced to the licensed gun owner database every day. If a gun owner is suspended he loses his licence to carry.

Could he ignore the law like a lot of drunk drivers do, yes, but when the gun shop scans his license his suspension will come up, just like when the police pull over a drunk driver.

It's not perfect, no system is, but it's an idea for how to separate law-abiding gun owners from the ones who shouldn't be allowed to own guns.
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Old 04-30-2018, 10:30 AM   #1293
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The Drunk driver would lose his license, same as the no longer law abiding gun owner.

Think about it this way. The background check database is cross referenced to the licensed gun owner database every day. If a gun owner is suspended he loses his licence to carry.

Could he ignore the law like a lot of drunk drivers do, yes, but when the gun shop scans his license his suspension will come up, just like when the police pull over a drunk driver.

It's not perfect, no system is, but it's an idea for how to separate law-abiding gun owners from the ones who shouldn't be allowed to own guns.
Thatís where you lost me. First of all, if the point of purchase has to run a your name through the NICS, by law already, if something comes up as disqualifying they legally canít sell you the gun with or without a license. If itís questionable thereís a 3 day waiting period until everything is sorted out before they can sell or deny the person. What your suggesting is already in place, thatís my point. So the person is already prevented from ever owning the gun legally regardless of said license. Some states donít have licenses but all states are required to run the NICS at the point of purchase from a licensed gun dealer. That goes for all firearms.

Unfortunately some places donít report things to the NICS they by law are required to. Hence why the the Texas church shooter slipped through the cracks. Your are not allowed to own a gun if youíve been dishonorably discharged from the Armed Forces. He was dishonorably discharged from the AF. We have federal laws on the books that cover that.

Your drivers license can be suspended for a number of reasons one is failure to pay child support driving is a privilege not a right. You canít be stoppped/pullovers while driving without probable cause ie a traffic violation. So if you follow all the rules of the road then you can go about your business until you get your license reinstated, illegal yes.

While there is a national data base just because your license was suspended in one state doesnít always preclude you from obtaining a license in another state. It depends on the reason for the suspension and if the state youíre applying to has the same statute. The same can be said of gun licenses laws they very by state which is why the point of purchase check is the best check weíve got Nationally.

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The Drunk driver would lose his license, same as the no longer law abiding gun owner.

Think about it this way. The background check database is cross referenced to the licensed gun owner database every day. If a gun owner is suspended he loses his licence to carry.

Could he ignore the law like a lot of drunk drivers do, yes, but when the gun shop scans his license his suspension will come up, just like when the police pull over a drunk driver.

It's not perfect, no system is, but it's an idea for how to separate law-abiding gun owners from the ones who shouldn't be allowed to own guns.
You lost me.

This is the system now, more or less.
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When he got out of his SUV, Lenoie and three other men attacked him — punching, kicking and dragging him to the rear of his vehicle while Fernanda and the kids watched, horrified.

Roberto began to crawl back toward the car, where he kept “a cheap little Hi-Point .380” in the door, he said.
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He got hold of his gun and fired 5-7 rounds as he wrestled with his attackers, wounding two of them while another ran from the scene. He also shot a hole in the door of his car.

During the scrum Fernanda grabbed a 12-inch screwdriver from the vehicle and attacked one of them as well.
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Fernanda has a bigger set of balls than some of those clowns down in Broward county FL.
Roberto, and Fernanda, Rodriguez are heroes. We need more people like them in America. That's why we should let the people who came in the caravan from central American, and are waiting at the border, in.

Another hero: Pregnant mother of two waiting at border to enter our country.



Migrants picked this pregnant mother of 2 to go to the front of the asylum line
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This pregnant mom is the first migrant in line for asylum 03:36
Tijuana, Mexico (CNN)They'd all traveled hundreds of miles -- by bus, by train, on foot. All had left their homes and scrounged for food and braved the rain and the chill to make it to the US border crossing at Tijuana, Mexico. And they all planned to seek asylum in the United States.

But someone had to be at the front of the line. And in the end, they picked her.
Gabriela Hernandez, a 27-year-old, pregnant mother of two whose journey CNN has followed for weeks, was among eight people chosen Monday by her fellow migrants to begin the process of seeking asylum in the United States.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/01/ameri...lum/index.html
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Roberto, and Fernanda, Rodriguez are heroes. We need more people like them in America. That's why we should let the people who came in the caravan from central American, and are waiting at the border, in.

Another hero: Pregnant mother of two waiting at border to enter our country.



Migrants picked this pregnant mother of 2 to go to the front of the asylum line
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This pregnant mom is the first migrant in line for asylum 03:36
Tijuana, Mexico (CNN)They'd all traveled hundreds of miles -- by bus, by train, on foot. All had left their homes and scrounged for food and braved the rain and the chill to make it to the US border crossing at Tijuana, Mexico. And they all planned to seek asylum in the United States.

But someone had to be at the front of the line. And in the end, they picked her.
Gabriela Hernandez, a 27-year-old, pregnant mother of two whose journey CNN has followed for weeks, was among eight people chosen Monday by her fellow migrants to begin the process of seeking asylum in the United States.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/01/ameri...lum/index.html
Hero? The story avoids the issue but unless she is married (and even still) she is too foolish NOT to get pregnant again while supposedly a victim of state sponsored danger. Unless the plan was to have more income producers when she went on welfare here. Hero? No.

You choose strange heroes BB.

This is EXACTLY the type of behavior liberals have been building in the inner cities and now trying to import.
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Hero? The story avoids the issue but unless she is married (and even still) she is too foolish NOT to get pregnant again while supposedly a victim of state sponsored danger. Unless the plan was to have more income producers when she went on welfare here. Hero? No.

You choose strange heroes BB.

This is EXACTLY the type of behavior liberals have been building in the inner cities and now trying to import.
You've said so many disgusting things that I thought it would be impossible to top it. But you have.

You've blamed a woman coming from a country where rape is rampant with very little opportunity for birth control. But yeah, she wants to come here to get a monthly check for each kid.

You are just a sad, sad human being.

I'll await your forthcoming insults now.
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You've said so many disgusting things that I thought it would be impossible to top it. But you have.

You've blamed a woman coming from a country where rape is rampant with very little opportunity for birth control. But yeah, she wants to come here to get a monthly check for each kid.

You are just a sad, sad human being.

I'll await your forthcoming insults now.
I considered this response when I wrote it. While it is possible she has been raped 3 times it is highly improbable.

How did she get the first two children? Raped as well? If not, where is the hubby? Is there a hubby? Is it the same guy?

I suggest the kids stay, get adopted and we pay for them but the reproducer gets sent home? How many less "asylum" seeking mommies will show up going forward? Hopefully none of them and they stop having kids in advance.

How far along is she?

How long has she been riding the bus through Mexico?

Talk to us about the same EXACT thing happening all over the liberal created slums of America.

Should we also be forced to pay for her abortion(s) should she repeat this process?

Just what are we responsible for in your "mind" when it comes to baby factories (all of them, not just this one)?

I realize the last question probably makes you start to calculate the price of future dependent voters but stay on the actual question, if you dare.

Can you please explain your outrage over this person's treatment and yet complete silence in the Socialism Kills thread? Seems odd that your wonderful caring is so starkly doled out hypocritically.

Actually, it is doled out 100% consistent with socialism in general. You feign caring for this woman, yet don't give a rats ass when your ideology of choice murders helpless babies.

Do you realize your screaming outrage on every thread in the political forum (and often in others) is old?

What say you, black lungs?

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