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Old 06-29-2020, 05:59 PM   #46
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Is this the thread where we post about how Trump was briefed four months ago that Russia put a bounty on dead American soldiers and hasn't said a peep, since it doesn't have its own thread, or a single mention?

Or does it belong in one of the many BENGHAZI threads?
Well there's this.
Statement by DNI Ratcliffe: "I have confirmed that neither the President nor the Vice President were ever briefed on any intelligence alleged by the New York Times in its reporting yesterday."
But hey, what does the DNI know, clearly the NYT is an unimpeachable source of nothing but The Truth.

I mean, one cannot find a single incident of the NYT publishing anything about Trump that didn't turn out to be 100% absolutely accurate.
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Meh.

The son of any VP is going to get SS protection where ever he goes. Period.

I don't have an issue with them protecting him where ever he went.

That's not saying I'm giving him a blank check to do anything he wants, anywhere in the world, simply that the SS protection is not an issue.
I disagree.

This is abuse.

Itís confirmation of the Bidenís nefarious actions, using their political position for personal gain while on the public payroll. Hunters globetrotting is an abuse on another scale.

Honestly, if this were Donald Jr itíd be nonstop on all their bombtossing networks and print.
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I have no objection to Secret Service protection for the president's immediate family, no matter who is president.

In fact, I would insist on it.
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I have no objection to Secret Service protection for the president's immediate family, no matter who is president.

In fact, I would insist on it.
That is agreed on.

But Bidenís took this to a level previously unattained.

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The FOIA covered 1,987 days of the Obama presidency (July 1, 2014 thru Jan. 19, 2017 have not yet been produced), meaning Hunter Biden averaged a trip once every five days or so during the covered period.
Why the hesitation for the release of the specified time period?


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Given the Burisma-Ukraine-China influence peddling scandals, Hunter Bidenís extensive international travel during the Obama-Biden presidency, including at least 5 trips to China, will raise additional questions,Ē Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said after releasing the records
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I have no objection to Secret Service protection for the president's immediate family, no matter who is president.

In fact, I would insist on it.
He wasn't president.
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I disagree.

This is abuse.

Itís confirmation of the Bidenís nefarious actions, using their political position for personal gain while on the public payroll. Hunters globetrotting is an abuse on another scale.

Honestly, if this were Donald Jr itíd be nonstop on all their bombtossing networks and print.
Perhaps I wasn't clear.

When I said the following:
That's not saying I'm giving him a blank check to do anything he wants, anywhere in the world, simply that the SS protection is not an issue.
I was trying to say that if he was exploiting his position as Biden's son to enrich himself, and more importantly if Joe was facilitating that, then that is worthy of review.

It seems the left has no hesitation to bemoan out how they think Trump and/or his family may be enriched by what he does while POTUS, so what's good for the goose is good for the gander

The fact that he had SS protection while he did this is moot.
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Old 06-30-2020, 05:12 PM   #52
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He wasn't president.
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The Secret Service ensures the safety of the president of the United States, the vice president of the United States, the president's and vice president's immediate families, former presidents, their spouses and their minor children under the age of 16, major presidential and vice-presidential candidates and their spouses, and visiting foreign heads of state.
Biden's son is part of his immediate family.

Regardless of who holds the office, such protection is prudent.

Stop an think for a moment.

How many silly Movie/TV plots have included a kidnapping of the child of a major politician to get them to do something for the bad guys?

So suppose for a moment, these family members were not given protection and they were kidnapped.

That's a lose-lose scenario for the government in question.

Unless of course they've got Mike Banning on the job, and then it's the making for a movie trilogy.
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Is this the thread where we post about how Trump was briefed four months ago that Russia put a bounty on dead American soldiers and hasn't said a peep, since it doesn't have its own thread, or a single mention?

Or does it belong in one of the many BENGHAZI threads?
Yeah, remember back in 2010 when Obama went all Rambo on Iran over this?

So remind me precisely what he did?

Oh yeah, he later sent Iran $1.7B

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Perhaps I wasn't clear.

When I said the following:
That's not saying I'm giving him a blank check to do anything he wants, anywhere in the world, simply that the SS protection is not an issue.
I was trying to say that if he was exploiting his position as Biden's son to enrich himself, and more importantly if Joe was facilitating that, then that is worthy of review.

It seems the left has no hesitation to bemoan out how they think Trump and/or his family may be enriched by what he does while POTUS, so what's good for the goose is good for the gander

The fact that he had SS protection while he did this is moot.
Oh I agree he should have protection. Last thing weíd need is a prominent hostage situation.

At some point he shouldíve been pulled aside and shown a graph of his usage vs all previous. Itís a bad look.
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Old 08-04-2020, 10:23 PM   #55
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Judicial Watch sues to obtain Hunter Biden travel records

The Judicial Watch organization has filed a lawsuit against the U.S. Department of Homeland Security seeking to obtain records about Hunter Biden's domestic and international travel while he had Secret Service protection.

Filed in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, Judicial Watch's suit concerning the travel dates and locations of former Vice President Joe Biden's son Hunter comes after the group filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request with the Secret Service. But the watchdog group says that it received an insufficient response that failed to provide information for the full period requested.

“Given the Burisma-Ukraine-China influence-peddling scandals, Hunter Biden’s extensive international travel during the Obama-Biden presidency, including at least five trips to China, raises serious questions about where else he traveled in the final two and a half years of the Obama administration," Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said in a statement. "The Secret Service’s incomplete response to our straightforward FOIA request on Hunter Biden’s travel has forced us to go to court – once again – to fight for the public’s right to know."

While Judicial Watch in its February 7, 2020 FOIA request sought records spanning from "2001 to the present," the group did not receive records for any travel following July 8, 2014.

The records the organization has obtained so far show that Hunter Biden took hundreds of trips with Secret Service protection.

"The records show that, between January 31, 2011 and July 8, 2014, Hunter Biden received Secret Service protection for 411 separate domestic and international trips, including to 29 different foreign countries. He received protection while visiting China five times," according to Judicial Watch.
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Democrats planted false stories in effort to derail Biden investigations, Grassley says

One of the longest serving members of Congress in a scathing speech on Wednesday accused Democrats of resorting to dirty tricks in order to derail investigations into Joe and Hunter Biden’s dealings with Ukraine. "This is the behavior of cowards. And it has to stop," Sen. Chuck Grassley declared.

Democrats have accused two leading senators of engaging in disinformation, while in truth the accusers are engaging in disinformation, said Grassley, R-Iowa, in his speech to lawmakers.

Citing investigations being led by himself and Sen. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, Grassley highlighted important revelations, among them that parts of the infamous anti-Trump document, the Steele Dossier, were based on Russian disinformation.

The current investigations by Grassley and Johnson center on Hunter Biden’s position on the board of the Burisma company in Ukraine when his father, Joe Biden, was vice president.

Both Grassley and Johnson have come under fire from Congressional Democrats who have sought to discredit the investigation - thus prompting Grassley's floor speech.

“In the last few weeks, Democrats have falsely accused me and Senator Johnson of receiving packets of information, including tapes, from a Ukrainian,” Grassley said. “That’s false reporting based on leaks from a letter written by Senator Schumer, Senator Warner, Speaker Pelosi, and Representative Schiff, which is itself based on cherry picked innuendo from classified documents.”

In his forceful remarks, Grassley accused Democrats of acting in bad faith.

"This nonsense of orchestrated leaks to plant stories falsely accusing me of dealing in disinformation based on actual disinformation that I wasn’t even privy to serves only the interest of our shared adversaries," he said. "This is the behavior of cowards. And it has to stop."

Elsewhere, he countered the Democrats’ claims.

“Let me be clear, my investigation with Senator Johnson is based on how the Obama administration formulated its Ukraine policy, which then Vice President Biden oversaw while his son was on the board of a corrupt Ukrainian natural gas company that was under investigation,” Grassley said.

Summarizing the Russia collusion investigation that produced no evidence of collusion between Moscow and Donald Trump, Grassley took a swipe at the Democrats for not examining the roots of those charges.

“Maybe the Democrats don’t want to look under the hood of the fake Russia investigation because they’d be front and center,” Grassley said.


The pointed floor statement follows an Aug. 4 letter from Grassley and Johnson to Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), Senate Intelligence Vice Chair Mark Warner (D-Va.), and House Intelligence Chair Adam Schiff (D-Calif.).

“The fact that the press knew more about the content of the allegedly classified material than we did indicates that you are more interested in grabbing headlines and scoring political points than actually addressing and confronting the issue of foreign interference in our elections,” Grassley and Johnson wrote in their letter.

“We have neither sought out, relied upon, nor publicly released anything that could even remotely be considered disinformation,” the two wrote.

Grassley, 86, was first elected in 1980, and is serving his seventh term in the United States Senate.
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