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HSanders 01-21-2015 10:22 AM

How come we are no longer hearing about how this was supposedly brought up by the Colts last year when they played in Foxborough in Nov? And why wouldn't it have been an issue in their game this year? It was inside in the dome...no weather issue.

Steve-o 01-21-2015 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Dwight Schrute (Post 2201214)
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Why is under inflating (Brady) a travesty but over inflating (Rodgers) is perfectly acceptable?



L. O. F'n. L.

A single line shut-your-face! Totally awesome.

We're gonna get some legs with that one bud!



Exactly.

You guys are making something out of the Rogers story that ain't there.

Rogers said he likes them overinflated.

You're missing the part that he's complaining because he doesn't get them.
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Beaglebay 01-21-2015 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by deec77 (Post 2201395)
Exactly. Just like Rogers inflates his beyond the legal limit:shrug:

~Dee~



Wow. Hide in plain sight.

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jetstream1066 01-21-2015 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by patriots pam (Post 2201388)
I see. Just speculation on Mike and Mike by whoever. Well, in that case, the Colts balls were also not properly inflated in accordance with league rules. You heard it here first. :coffee:

Thanks for the inside scoop......is it speculation that 11 of qb balls were not properly inflated by as much as 16%?
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mooseontheloose 01-21-2015 10:24 AM

Unless we all somehow believe a Pats staffer magically deflated 11 balls on the sidelines of an NFL football game without anyone noticing (LOL what?!), I think this must come back on the league. The only way I can imagine 11 of 12 balls being underinflated is if the weather played a role OR the refs didn't properly inspect the balls.

I don't see how this falls on the Pats, but in the eyes of the media and opposing fan bases, NE is already guilty and a win in this SB will be another asterisk win.

jetstream1066 01-21-2015 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve-o (Post 2201400)
You guys are making something out of the Rogers story that ain't there.

Rogers said he likes them overinflated.

You're missing the part that he's complaining because he doesn't get them.
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I also mentioned earlier that he also runs it by the officials to ensure the inflation is correct
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dchester 01-21-2015 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by patriots pam (Post 2201368)
Where are you "hearing" this? I haven't seen or heard any media reports at all yet about whether the Colts balls were even tested, nevermind if the PSI was correct or not, and I have been looking.

I heard it on the radio this morning (I think it was Mike and Mike), but I haven't seen anything online about it from a credible source.

jetstream1066 01-21-2015 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by mooseontheloose (Post 2201403)
Unless we all somehow believe a Pats staffer magically deflated 11 balls on the sidelines of an NFL football game without anyone noticing (LOL what?!), I think this must come back on the league. The only way I can imagine 11 of 12 balls being underinflated is if the weather played a role OR the refs didn't properly inspect the balls.

I don't see how this falls on the Pats, but in the eyes of the media and opposing fan bases, NE is already guilty and a win in this SB will be another asterisk win.

I'm not saying this is what happened.....but do you really think inserting a ball pin into a ba is difficult to do and conceal
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jetstream1066 01-21-2015 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by dchester (Post 2201408)
I heard it on the radio this morning (I think it was Mike and Mike), but I haven't seen anything online about it from a credible source.

I do t think there is much credibility to any of this.....and nothing will or should happen......but as stated earlier...this is embarrassing for both the league and the Patriots
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TommyD420 01-21-2015 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jetstream1066 (Post 2201409)
I'm not saying this is what happened.....but do you really think inserting a ball pin into a ba is difficult to do and conceal
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With 47 cameras throughout the stadium from CBS and NFL Flims?

Yeah. It would be kinda difficult.

Roberto71 01-21-2015 10:30 AM

Its science. Plain and simple. Air pressure and temperature changes. Explained on Boston.com.....

Given the conditions of the game, a ball which meets specifications in the locker room could easily lose enough pressure to be considered under-inflated. Some math:

- Guy-Lussac&rsquo;s Law describes the relationship between the pressure of a confined ideal gas and its temperature. For the sake of argument, we will assume that the football is a rigid enough container (unless a ball is massively deflated, it's volume won't change). The relationship is (P1/T1) = (P2/T2), where P is the pressure and T is the temperature in Kelvins.

- The balls are inflated to between 12.5 and 13.5 psi at a temperature of 70 degrees Fahrenheit (294.1 K). Let's assume an average ball has a pressure of 13 psi. Since these are initial values, we will call them P1 and T1.

- The game time temperature was 49 degrees F (278 K). We are attempting to solve for the new pressure at this temperature, P2. We plug everything into the equation and get (13/294.1) = (P2/278). At the game time temperature, the balls would have a pressure of 12.3 psi, below league specifications.

Furthermore, given that it was raining all day, the air in the stadium was saturated with water vapor. At 70 degrees, water has a vapor pressure of 0.38 psi. The total pressure of the ball is equal to the pressure of the air inside the ball and the vaporized water in the ball. At 49 degrees, the vapor pressure of water is 0.13 psi. Up to 0.25 additional psi can be lost if the balls were inflated by either the team or the refs prior to the game. Granted, it's unlikely that anyone would inflate balls from 0, but it easily could cost another couple hundredths of a psi in pressure.

- For a ball that barely meets specifications (12.5 psi), it's pressure would drop to 11.8 psi during the game... enough to be considered massively under-inflated.

patriots pam 01-21-2015 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by PatsFanLisa (Post 2201391)
The NFL person that leaked this report without definitive answers should be fired.


This is ticking me off right now as well. 11 balls were under inflated, with no other information. Oh, except the added tidbit that "the league is 'disappointed ... angry ... distraught' after spending considerable time on the findings earlier Tuesday." Yeah? So what? I get pissed off about having to waste my time on unnecessary bullshit meetings at work, too. :coffee:

jetstream1066 01-21-2015 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TommyD420 (Post 2201411)
With 47 cameras throughout the stadium from CBS and NFL Flims?

Yeah. It would be kinda difficult.

Agree to disagree
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Steve-o 01-21-2015 10:30 AM

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Thanks for negative repping me on account of your ignorance, but ballboys are employees of the TEAM, not the league.

Joe 01-21-2015 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by TommyD420 (Post 2201411)
With 47 cameras throughout the stadium from CBS and NFL Flims?

Yeah. It would be kinda difficult.

Yep. Surely they would have come up with something by now if that were the case.


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