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Big/Sky/Fly 12-24-2017 06:47 PM

69ers Lucked Out On Trading For JimmyG...
 
For a 2nd round pick... :mad:

Worst BB trade ever.

There are teams that NEVER find their qb...

D2maine 12-24-2017 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Big/Sky/Fly (Post 2490066)
For a 2nd round pick... :mad:

Worst BB trade ever.

There are teams that NEVER find their qb...

disgusting trade, pats would have had a compensatory 3 if they simply kept jg so really it was not for a 2 but for the diff between 2 and a 3.

silviomossa 12-24-2017 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by D2maine (Post 2490069)
so really it was not for a 2 but for the diff between 2 and a 3.

Which roughly doubles the value of the pick.

Dwight Schrute 12-24-2017 06:55 PM

Or they hang on and Franchise for next season.

D2maine 12-24-2017 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by silviomossa (Post 2490070)
Which roughly doubles the value of the pick.

we are talking about a starting quality qb - the value of which is a fvckton more than the diff between 2 and 3.

the futures of entire franchises are changed on such deals.

BB is a "value" guy and frankly he sold jg for pennies on the dollar

silviomossa 12-24-2017 06:57 PM

Paying 20+ mil for a benchwarmer is exactly the kind of cap mistake that this team rarely makes.

Dwight Schrute 12-24-2017 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by silviomossa (Post 2490074)
Paying 20+ mil for a benchwarmer is exactly the kind of cap mistake that this team rarely makes.

See if you say that when TB is gone.

D2maine 12-24-2017 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dwight Schrute (Post 2490071)
Or they hang on and Franchise for next season.

exactly or if you want to trade it should have been last off-season and you ignite a bidding war...

silviomossa 12-24-2017 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by D2maine (Post 2490073)
BB is a "value" guy and frankly he sold jg for pennies on the dollar

The market determines the value. If the market would have paid more at the trade deadline, then I agree that he made a mistake. (Other teams might be kicking themselves for not doing so , but hindsight: 20/20)

If any mistake was made, it was not trading him for (possibly) more in the off-season, but it seems that he wanted a good option in the wings with a 40 year old QB starting, which makes a degree of sense. Mid-season, no issues, so get a pick with twice the value.

What would have been a mistake? Paying 20 mil for a guy with half a dozen starts to backup an MVP.

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Originally Posted by Dwight Schrute (Post 2490076)
See if you say that when TB is gone.

JG will be, what, 29 years old then?

Either way, I don't think based on these few starts, he's the second coming of Joe Montana. There will be other QBs in the draft to develop.

Big/Sky/Fly 12-24-2017 07:08 PM

I realize that it was a tricky situation, but, this one could come back to bite them in the ass. Especially for what BB got back.

This trade is looking worse and worse by the week.

Dwight Schrute 12-24-2017 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by silviomossa (Post 2490078)
The market determines the value. If the market would have paid more at the trade deadline, then I agree that he made a mistake. (Other teams might be kicking themselves for not doing so , but hindsight: 20/20)

If any mistake was made, it was not trading him for (possibly) more in the off-season, but it seems that he wanted a good option in the wings with a 40 year old QB starting, which makes a degree of sense. Mid-season, no issues, so get a pick with twice the value.

What would have been a mistake? Paying 20 mil for a guy with half a dozen starts to backup an MVP.

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JG will be, what, 29 years old then?

Either way, I don't think based on these few starts, he's the second coming of Joe Montana. There will be other QBs in the draft to develop.

6-0 to start his career.

The last 4 with a below average team.

silviomossa 12-24-2017 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Big/Sky/Fly (Post 2490080)
I realize that it was a tricky situation, but, this one could come back to bite them in the ass.

Agreed, but maybe that's why he went to an NFC team.

Either way, a pick in the 30s is should be good value -- he better make it work. There will be a lot of eyes on that selection.

Giant Octopodes 12-24-2017 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by D2maine (Post 2490069)
disgusting trade, pats would have had a compensatory 3 if they simply kept jg so really it was not for a 2 but for the diff between 2 and a 3.

Not really true, compensatory picks are at the end of the round, so it's the difference between pick 35ish and pick 99 or so.

Edit: And that's assuming the Pats offseason FA acquisitions did not impact that pick, for what it's worth. Not that I suspect they would, but they could. This opens up more flexibility in free agency as well.

Big/Sky/Fly 12-24-2017 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by silviomossa (Post 2490083)
Agreed, but maybe that's why he went to an NFC team.

Either way, a pick in the 30s is should be good value -- he better make it work. There will be a lot of eyes on that selection.

BB should asked for more help on defense like linebackers...it looks like a terrible trade.

D2maine 12-24-2017 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by silviomossa (Post 2490078)
The market determines the value. If the market would have paid more at the trade deadline, then I agree that he made a mistake. (Other teams might be kicking themselves for not doing so , but hindsight: 20/20)

BB never even tried to develop a market

If any mistake was made, it was not trading him for (possibly) more in the off-season, but it seems that he wanted a good option in the wings with a 40 year old QB starting, which makes a degree of sense. Mid-season, no issues, so get a pick with twice the value.

agree a trade should have been in the offseason if you are going to trade but either way you need to set up a market

What would have been a mistake? Paying 20 mil for a guy with half a dozen starts to backup an MVP.

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JG will be, what, 29 years old then?

you had better hope TB lasts that long and he maintains his current level of play

Either way, I don't think based on these few starts, he's the second coming of Joe Montana. There will be other QBs in the draft to develop.


good luck with that it can take decades to find a good qb


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