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anderson 10-10-2017 01:37 PM

Random Political Issues Mega Thread
 
I figured we do enough bickering around specific issues that we might as well start another free-for-all.

I'll kick it off with a non-partisan (I hope!) story of the scariest thing about getting old in states with lots of sunshine...

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...e-their-rights

Baron Samedi 10-10-2017 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anderson (Post 2467996)
I figured we do enough bickering around specific issues that we might as well start another free-for-all.

I'll kick it off with a non-partisan (I hope!) story of the scariest thing about getting old in states with lots of sunshine...

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...e-their-rights

I find this extremely interesting, but I will keep my comment brief.

Any time a person has another person or group of people deciding what's best for them, you're inviting trouble and suffering. Whether it is on a personal level or a society wide level makes no difference, the dynamic is the same...loss of liberty, loss of rights, loss of what separates you as a human from other animals.

All and always "in your best interest", of course.

Now, more specifically, there are no easy answers that I know of for how to deal with the elderly or the mentally disabled that are unable to sustain themselves without help of some degree.

It's never easy, it's never perfect. The best you can hope for is that someone that values the person more than they value the estate is making the decisions.

If you get someone that values the estate or the money more than the person, God help you.

anderson 10-10-2017 01:56 PM

Did you read the entire article?

The part I found most depressing is that this isn't just happening to people who can't take care of themselves. And with the help of bogus doctor statements to the contrary.

Baron Samedi 10-10-2017 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anderson (Post 2468009)
Did you read the entire article?

The part I found most depressing is that this isn't just happening to people who can't take care of themselves. And with the help of bogus doctor statements to the contrary.

I skimmed through it, but I am intimately familiar with the problems and abuses of the elderly and disabled.

There are certain things I don't care to know too much about, and they generally revolve around children, the elderly, the disabled, and animals being abused.

General knowledge is fine, but specific stories strike a chord in me that I don't want struck.

BostonTim 10-11-2017 02:50 PM

This exact issue was an episode on Boston Legal, Maybe 10 years ago. And it wasn't new then. Its terrible and it's since the dawn of time.

Good find. Used to subscribe to the New Yorker at insane student rates back in the day. Loved talk of the Town and the 'toons.


Cheers

anderson 10-11-2017 04:14 PM

Sort of in a similar vein, but different, here's a story about "modern day slavery"

https://www.revealnews.org/article/t...hicken-plants/

anderson 10-11-2017 05:25 PM

And since I'm on a spree, I just finished reading this lengthy article about the death penalty in the context of one inmate scheduled to die tomorrow. It's long, but very engaging.

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/...-robert-pruett

Baron Samedi 10-12-2017 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anderson (Post 2468279)
And since I'm on a spree, I just finished reading this lengthy article about the death penalty in the context of one inmate scheduled to die tomorrow. It's long, but very engaging.

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/...-robert-pruett

Capital Punishment is one of those things that I ahve flipped 180 degrees on since being on this board.

I used to be very pro death penalty. Then my libertarian studies began to cause me to question it, but I still supported it if there was conclusive DNA evidence. Still, my skepticism of the general competence and integrity of the state bothered me so I wasn't 100% behind capital punishment.

And finally, my homegirl Annie Dookhan cleared it all up for me. State's Evidence can never be beyond doubt, and therefore capital punishment can never be supported.

Executing a single innocent person makes us all guilty of murder. I see it now.

anderson 10-13-2017 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anderson (Post 2468279)
And since I'm on a spree, I just finished reading this lengthy article about the death penalty in the context of one inmate scheduled to die tomorrow. It's long, but very engaging.

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/...-robert-pruett

Pruett was executed last night.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-t...-idUSKBN1CH38F

Baron Samedi 10-19-2017 06:22 AM

Interested in what peeple think of this, and very interested in Darth's thoughts...

I'll link the article, but posting just the chart.

Staggering Chart Shows Your Personal Share Of Your State's Underfunded Pension

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/defau...0Pension_0.JPG

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-1...funded-pension

Baron Samedi 10-24-2017 10:49 AM

Professor Claims Math, Algebra, And Geometry Promote "White Privilege"

A University of Illinois math professor believes that algebra and geometry perpetuate “white privilege” because Greek terms give Caucasians unearned credit for the subject.

But that isn’t the professor’s only complaint. She also believes that evaluations for math proficiency perpetuates discrimination against minority students, if they do worse than their white counterparts.

Rochelle Gutierrez argues in a newly published math education book for teachers that they must be aware of the identity politics surrounding the subject of mathematics.

“On many levels, mathematics itself operates as Whiteness,” she argues with complete sincerity, according to Campus Reform.

“Who gets credit for doing and developing mathematics, who is capable in mathematics, and who is seen as part of the mathematical community is generally viewed as White.”


Gutierrez argues that subjects like algebra and geometry, which relate to arithmetic, also perpetuate racism and white privilege. She worries that “curricula emphasizing terms like Pythagorean theorem and pi perpetuate a perception that mathematics was largely developed by Greeks and other Europeans.”

Gutierrez claims that the importance of math skills in the real world also places what she calls an “unearned privilege” for those who are good at it. Because most math teachers in the United States are white, white people stand to benefit from their grasp of the subject disproportionate to members of other races.

“Are we really that smart just because we do mathematics?” she asks, raising the question as to why math professors get more grants than “social studies or English” professors.

“If one is not viewed as mathematical, there will always be a sense of inferiority that can be summoned,” she says, claiming that minorities “have experienced microaggressions from participating in math classrooms… [where people are] judged by whether they can reason abstractly.”

WTF? Did she just say minorities are too stupid to do math?

To resolve the intelligence gap, Gutierrez calls on math professors to develop a sense of “political conocimiento,” a Spanish term for “political knowledge for teaching.”

She concludes her argument with the claim that all knowledge is “relational,” or is, in other words, relative. “Things cannot be known objectively; they must be known subjectively.”

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-1...hite-privilege

Dear Professor Leftist Virtue Signalling Snowflake,

Math and Algebra are actually Arabic. "Algebra" is a bastardization of "al-jabr", invented by Mohammed ibn-Musa al-Khowarizmi....not exactly "Mr. Snow Whitey".

2. Thanks for letting us all know that minorities are too stupid to do or understand math, because they can't reason abstractly. That's mighty white of ya. Now I understand why us superior white people have to take care of the poor, helpless, stupid minorites.

Thank you for enlightening me. Wait...is "enlightening" a racist microaggressing word? Please write back and let me know, thanks.

BS

foobahl 10-24-2017 10:56 AM

I can't be the only one who thinks the border wall prototype reporting is kind of like a time share infomercial with that guy from CHIPS

Jaric 10-24-2017 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baron Samedi (Post 2472048)
Professor Claims Math, Algebra, And Geometry Promote "White Privilege"

A University of Illinois math professor believes that algebra and geometry perpetuate “white privilege” because Greek terms give Caucasians unearned credit for the subject.

But that isn’t the professor’s only complaint. She also believes that evaluations for math proficiency perpetuates discrimination against minority students, if they do worse than their white counterparts.

Rochelle Gutierrez argues in a newly published math education book for teachers that they must be aware of the identity politics surrounding the subject of mathematics.

“On many levels, mathematics itself operates as Whiteness,” she argues with complete sincerity, according to Campus Reform.

“Who gets credit for doing and developing mathematics, who is capable in mathematics, and who is seen as part of the mathematical community is generally viewed as White.”


Gutierrez argues that subjects like algebra and geometry, which relate to arithmetic, also perpetuate racism and white privilege. She worries that “curricula emphasizing terms like Pythagorean theorem and pi perpetuate a perception that mathematics was largely developed by Greeks and other Europeans.”

Gutierrez claims that the importance of math skills in the real world also places what she calls an “unearned privilege” for those who are good at it. Because most math teachers in the United States are white, white people stand to benefit from their grasp of the subject disproportionate to members of other races.

“Are we really that smart just because we do mathematics?” she asks, raising the question as to why math professors get more grants than “social studies or English” professors.

“If one is not viewed as mathematical, there will always be a sense of inferiority that can be summoned,” she says, claiming that minorities “have experienced microaggressions from participating in math classrooms… [where people are] judged by whether they can reason abstractly.”

WTF? Did she just say minorities are too stupid to do math?

To resolve the intelligence gap, Gutierrez calls on math professors to develop a sense of “political conocimiento,” a Spanish term for “political knowledge for teaching.”

She concludes her argument with the claim that all knowledge is “relational,” or is, in other words, relative. “Things cannot be known objectively; they must be known subjectively.”

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-1...hite-privilege

Dear Professor Leftist Virtue Signalling Snowflake,

Math and Algebra are actually Arabic. "Algebra" is a bastardization of "al-jabr", invented by Mohammed ibn-Musa al-Khowarizmi....not exactly "Mr. Snow Whitey".

2. Thanks for letting us all know that minorities are too stupid to do or understand math, because they can't reason abstractly. That's mighty white of ya. Now I understand why us superior white people have to take care of the poor, helpless, stupid minorites.

Thank you for enlightening me. Wait...is "enlightening" a racist microaggressing word? Please write back and let me know, thanks.

BS

It's fascinating how racist the "anti-racist" movement is.

Dwight Schrute 10-24-2017 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baron Samedi (Post 2472048)
Professor Claims Math, Algebra, And Geometry Promote "White Privilege"

A University of Illinois math professor believes that algebra and geometry perpetuate “white privilege” because Greek terms give Caucasians unearned credit for the subject.

But that isn’t the professor’s only complaint. She also believes that evaluations for math proficiency perpetuates discrimination against minority students, if they do worse than their white counterparts.

Rochelle Gutierrez argues in a newly published math education book for teachers that they must be aware of the identity politics surrounding the subject of mathematics.

“On many levels, mathematics itself operates as Whiteness,” she argues with complete sincerity, according to Campus Reform.

“Who gets credit for doing and developing mathematics, who is capable in mathematics, and who is seen as part of the mathematical community is generally viewed as White.”


Gutierrez argues that subjects like algebra and geometry, which relate to arithmetic, also perpetuate racism and white privilege. She worries that “curricula emphasizing terms like Pythagorean theorem and pi perpetuate a perception that mathematics was largely developed by Greeks and other Europeans.”

Gutierrez claims that the importance of math skills in the real world also places what she calls an “unearned privilege” for those who are good at it. Because most math teachers in the United States are white, white people stand to benefit from their grasp of the subject disproportionate to members of other races.

“Are we really that smart just because we do mathematics?” she asks, raising the question as to why math professors get more grants than “social studies or English” professors.

“If one is not viewed as mathematical, there will always be a sense of inferiority that can be summoned,” she says, claiming that minorities “have experienced microaggressions from participating in math classrooms… [where people are] judged by whether they can reason abstractly.”

WTF? Did she just say minorities are too stupid to do math?

To resolve the intelligence gap, Gutierrez calls on math professors to develop a sense of “political conocimiento,” a Spanish term for “political knowledge for teaching.”

She concludes her argument with the claim that all knowledge is “relational,” or is, in other words, relative. “Things cannot be known objectively; they must be known subjectively.”

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-1...hite-privilege

Dear Professor Leftist Virtue Signalling Snowflake,

Math and Algebra are actually Arabic. "Algebra" is a bastardization of "al-jabr", invented by Mohammed ibn-Musa al-Khowarizmi....not exactly "Mr. Snow Whitey".

2. Thanks for letting us all know that minorities are too stupid to do or understand math, because they can't reason abstractly. That's mighty white of ya. Now I understand why us superior white people have to take care of the poor, helpless, stupid minorites.

Thank you for enlightening me. Wait...is "enlightening" a racist microaggressing word? Please write back and let me know, thanks.

BS

This mindset in people makes me hate life at times.

Big/Sky/Fly 10-24-2017 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaric (Post 2472052)
It's fascinating how racist the "anti-racist" movement is.

It's a religion. Possibly 501c3 (non-profit). :coffee:

deec77 10-24-2017 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaric (Post 2472052)
It's fascinating how racist the "anti-racist" movement is.

Common core:shrug_n:

~Dee~

Baron Samedi 10-26-2017 06:29 AM

Big Day today...

800,000 JFK files are released.

Venezuela officially goes bankrupt this week. Another socialist utopia that thought they could defy the laws of economics if they just care enough.

The informant for the Clinton/Uranium One Russia deal jsut got his or her immunity.

Baron Samedi 10-26-2017 06:43 AM

New Documents Show FBI Visited Adam Lanza Before Sandy Hook Shooting

On Tuesday, the F.B.I. released 1,500 pages from its investigation into the 2012 school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut. The documents, while heavily redacted, nevertheless paint a dark portrait of Adam Lanza, the young man who would go on to kill 20 children and six teachers before turning a gun on himself.

As for the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary itself, the F.B.I. concluded that Lanza could have been planning it since March of 2011.

“The shooter did not ‘snap,’ but instead engaged in careful, methodical planning and preparation,” investigators wrote in one report. “The shooter was fascinated with past shootings and researched them thoroughly. The shooter shared many similar characteristics and behaviors with other active shooters.”

In a summary of an interview with an unidentified woman who had an online relationship with Lanza, investigators wrote the young man was “singularly focused and obsessed with mass murders” and that he “devoted almost all his internet activity to researching and discussing mass murders and spree killings.”

They also wrote that Lanza “spoke about school killings and those who committed them with respect and understanding.”

The witness described Lanza as “depressed” with “no effective coping mechanisms to deal with his depression” and that he “seemed to have no friends or people he could turn to for support or assistance and did not appear to have any enjoyment of life.”

The unnamed woman’s account (as well as much of the rest of the information with the cache of F.B.I. documents) describes a young man growing increasingly isolated in the days and weeks before the shooting.

Even more disturbing, the agency’s behavior analysis of Lanza found he “had an interest in children that could be categorised as paedophilia,” though no evidence is provided to show that he ever acted on such impulses.

It does fit in with some of what Lanza’s online friend told investigators, however. She claimed that in a lengthy email, Lanza — who she described as “the weirdest person online” — once expressed his view that a sexual relationship between an adult and a child could be “possibly beneficial to both parties.”

This friend said Lanza pitied children as they were being unfairly controlled by people in authority, and that she suspects Lanza thought he was “saving” or “protecting” the kids he killed at Sandy Hook.

Additionally, investigators found a file on Lanza’s computer “advocating pedophiles’ rights and the liberation of children” as well as a screenplay describing a relationship between a 10-year-old boy and a 30-year-old man.

Perhaps the most interesting item in the cache of 1,500 pages was a document revealing Adam Lanza popped up on the F.B.I.’s radar years before the shooting took place.

When he was in ninth grade, Lanza hacked into an unspecified government computer and made it through two levels of security before he was stopped. It was enough to catch the attention of the F.B.I., which then had agents pay a visit to his mother’s house.

“Nancy had to convince the authorities that her son was just very intelligent and was challenging himself to see if he could hack (his way in),” investigators wrote in the report.

Nancy Lanza was killed by her son that morning before he set off for Sandy Hook Elementary. That day years ago, however, agents apparently told the woman her son could have a future working for the government.

“The authorities told her that if her son was that smart, he could have a job with them someday,” the report said.

http://theantimedia.org/fbi-adam-lanza-sandy-hook/

Baron Samedi 10-27-2017 07:36 AM

Twitter didn't tell Senate Intel about RT pitch to buy election ads

Lawmakers on the Senate Intelligence Committee say Twitter never informed them that it pitched Russian state-owned media to buy ads during the 2016 presidential campaign.

A spokesperson for top Senate Intelligence Committee Democrat Mark Warner (Va.), told reporters Thursday that Twitter did not tell the committee during a private briefing last month, or at any other point, that it had made a pitch deck to persuade Russia Today (RT) to advertise on its platform.

RT’s editor-in-chief, Margarita Simonyan, revealed the pitch via Twitter on Thursday, writing “Hope @jack won’t forget to tell @congressdotgov how @Twitter pitched @RT_com to spend big $$s on US elex ad campaign.”

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hope <a href="https://twitter.com/jack?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@jack</a> won’t forget to tell <a href="https://twitter.com/congressdotgov?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@congressdotgov</a> how <a href="https://twitter.com/Twitter?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Twitter</a> pitched <a href="https://twitter.com/RT_com?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RT_com</a> to spend big $$s on US elex ad campaign. <a href="https://t.co/7GqoEoSaY8">pic.twitter.com/7GqoEoSaY8</a></p>&mdash; Маргарита Симоньян (@M_Simonyan) <a href="https://twitter.com/M_Simonyan/status/923519609269116928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 26, 2017</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Twitter declined to address Simonyan’s claims directly.

"We do not have any comment on our private conversations with any advertiser, even a former advertiser," a Twitter spokesperson told The Hill.

The remarks from Simonyan come amid heightened scrutiny of Russian government influence in the presidential race, including the roles played by social media ads and Kremlin media outlets.

The news also comes as Twitter’s acting general counsel Sam Edgett prepares to testify before the House and Senate Intelligence committees next week as part of Congress's investigation of Russia's election interference.

Officials from Google and Facebook, which have both reported 2016 ads sponsored by Russian actors, have also agreed to testify.

Twitter announced Thursday, shortly after Simonyan's remarks, that it would no longer run ads from Russian-funded news outlets RT and Sputnik.

“This decision was based on the retrospective work we've been doing around the 2016 U.S. election and the U.S. intelligence community’s conclusion that both RT and Sputnik attempted to interfere with the election on behalf of the Russian government,” Twitter said in a blog post Thursday morning.

The company also announced that it would donate the $1.9 million RT has spent on Twitter advertising since 2011 to “support external research into the use of Twitter in civic engagement and elections, including use of malicious automation and misinformation, with an initial focus on elections and automation.”

http://thehill.com/policy/technology...y-election-ads

Twitter took $2 Million dollars from Russia! COLLUSION!

foobahl 10-27-2017 09:07 AM

all these entities like the DNC, twitter, facebook, google to include all the Weinstein donations should just be sent to, let's say PR. I hear there is a genocide going on there. We are going to spend the money externally. Does that impress or fool anyone at all?

anderson 10-27-2017 11:05 AM

http://uk.businessinsider.com/sophia...7-10?r=US&IR=T

First robot citizen of the world!

Somewhat ironic that this would happen in a country where said robot will enjoy more rights than women...

anderson 10-27-2017 11:07 AM

Unrelated to the robot story, here's a story about the opioid crisis.
Quote:

Subsys, Insys’ brand-name fentanyl spray, is the fastest-acting form of the product, and “80 times more potent than morphine,” and Insys has been making a killing on it.
The company’s stock rose 296% in the 3 years after their 2013 IPO. But the number of fentanyl overdoses in the US spiked 540% in that same timeframe -- accounting for over 20k deaths in 2016.
Guess who has just been arrested and indicted for bribing doctors to overprescribe this fentanyl?

Jaric 10-27-2017 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anderson (Post 2472757)
Unrelated to the robot story, here's a story about the opioid crisis.


Guess who has just been arrested and indicted for bribing doctors to overprescribe this fentanyl?

That shit is so disgusting.

Meanwhile they put you in a cage for pot.

Baron Samedi 10-27-2017 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anderson (Post 2472754)
http://uk.businessinsider.com/sophia...7-10?r=US&IR=T

First robot citizen of the world!

Somewhat ironic that this would happen in a country where said robot will enjoy more rights than women...

I'm guessing Sophia can legally drive, too.

Wait a minute...HEY! STOP BASHING OUR FRIENDS AND ALLIES!

AkPatsFan 10-27-2017 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anderson (Post 2472757)
Unrelated to the robot story, here's a story about the opioid crisis.


Quote:

Subsys, Insys’ brand-name fentanyl spray, is the fastest-acting form of the product, and “80 times more potent than morphine,” and Insys has been making a killing on it.
The company’s stock rose 296% in the 3 years after their 2013 IPO. But the number of fentanyl overdoses in the US spiked 540% in that same timeframe -- accounting for over 20k deaths in 2016
Guess who has just been arrested and indicted for bribing doctors to overprescribe this fentanyl?

How in the hell is that stuff even legal?

anderson 10-27-2017 01:28 PM

Pretty sure that's the substance that killed the artist formerly (and lovingly) known as Prince.

They offered it to me as part of my pain management regimen and I told them put a bag of dicks to their lips.

Baron Samedi 10-28-2017 12:16 PM

Justice Department Agrees To Pay Tea Party Victims In Obama IRS Targeting Scandal


“The IRS admits that its treatment of Plaintiffs during the tax-exempt determination process, including screening their applications based on their names or policy positions, subjecting those applications to heightened scrutiny and inordinate delays, and demanding some Plaintiffs’ information that TITA determined was unnecessary to the agency’s determination of their tax-exempt status, was wrong,” the IRS said in court documents. “For such treatment, the IRS expresses its sincere apology.”

The settlement comes days after the House Judiciary Committee released internal Obama DOJ emails, that revealed the agency selectively funneled big banks’ predatory lending settlement money to liberal non-profits to the exclusion of conservative organizations.


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-1...-conservatives

Wait....you mean that the Obama IRS, and the Department of Justice were both corrupt?

Say it isn't so!

anderson 11-01-2017 10:02 AM

In other news that will come as a delight to the Breitbart anti globalists is that a picture is forming of a lot of "nationalist" forces banding together internationally...

For instance, under suspicion of violating British campaign financing rules, it is now being investigated whether Breitbart paid people to work on the Brexit campaign. Because nothing says anti-globalist society more than a bunch of billionaires and ex-GS guys getting together to shape the political agenda.

Jaric 11-01-2017 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AkPatsFan (Post 2472808)
How in the hell is that stuff even legal?

Because the companies that profit from it make a lot of money on it they spend on lobbyists.

Hence why they're they'll be the first thrown into the Gulag when I take power.

Jaric 11-01-2017 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anderson (Post 2472811)
Pretty sure that's the substance that killed the artist formerly (and lovingly) known as Prince.

They offered it to me as part of my pain management regimen and I told them put a bag of dicks to their lips.

It seems like madness to me that doctors eagerly try to prescribe you you a crippling drug addiction. That feels like a violation of "do no harm".

Of course then they can prescribe you medication to alleviate the opioid induced constipation. Not to mention all the prescriptions and treatments to help you get off the opioids they got you hooked on initially.

I don't know what you're dealing with specifically, but I've never encountered pain a little bit of weed couldn't fix.

anderson 11-01-2017 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaric (Post 2474591)
It seems like madness to me that doctors eagerly try to prescribe you you a crippling drug addiction. That feels like a violation of "do no harm".

Of course then they can prescribe you medication to alleviate the opioid induced constipation. Not to mention all the prescriptions and treatments to help you get off the opioids they got you hooked on initially.

I don't know what you're dealing with specifically, but I've never encountered pain a little bit of weed couldn't fix.

By far the best pain alleviation I've received is medical marijuana. It's not even close, unless you count absurd dosages of opiates.

But prior to medical marijuana I was given benzodiazepines and oxycodone (plus gabapentin) and was able to get rid of most of it once MJ was in play.

Baron Samedi 11-01-2017 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anderson (Post 2474579)
In other news that will come as a delight to the Breitbart anti globalists is that a picture is forming of a lot of "nationalist" forces banding together internationally...

For instance, under suspicion of violating British campaign financing rules, it is now being investigated whether Breitbart paid people to work on the Brexit campaign. Because nothing says anti-globalist society more than a bunch of billionaires and ex-GS guys getting together to shape the political agenda.

I don't think you understand the terms "Globalist" and "anti-Globalist" correctly.

Globalism: A national geopolitical policy in which the entire world is regarded as the appropriate sphere for a state's influence.

Therefore, advocating in favor of Brexit doesn't make them "globalists" any more than you booking booking a room in Casablanca makes you an international real estate mogul.:coffee:

You can't fight globalism without fighting the consolidation of the globe.

anderson 11-01-2017 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baron Samedi (Post 2474609)
I don't think you understand the terms "Globalist" and "anti-Globalist" correctly.

Globalism: A national geopolitical policy in which the entire world is regarded as the appropriate sphere for a state's influence.

Therefore, advocating in favor of Brexit doesn't make them "globalists" any more than you booking booking a room in Casablanca makes you an international real estate mogul.:coffee:

You can't fight globalism without fighting the consolidation of the globe.

I'm saying that it makes not a hoot of a difference whether the actors regarding the entire world as an appropriate sphere for influence are state actors or non-state actors as long as the result is supranational.

Or let me speak plainly. You're getting played.

Baron Samedi 11-01-2017 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anderson (Post 2474612)
I'm saying that it makes not a hoot of a difference whether the actors regarding the entire world as an appropriate sphere for influence are state actors or non-state actors as long as the result is supranational.

Or let me speak plainly. You're getting played.

The actors are irrelevant.

It is the agenda that determines a globalist from a non-Globalist.

anderson 11-01-2017 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baron Samedi (Post 2474618)
The actors are irrelevant.

It is the agenda that determines a globalist from a non-Globalist.

Methinks you're being thick now.

Baron Samedi 11-02-2017 06:20 AM

Twitter Admits It Buried "Podesta Email", DNC Tweets Ahead Of The Presidential Election

It was approximately one year ago, when angry tweeters alleged that Jack Dorsey et al., were purposefully censoring and "suppressing" certain content on Twitter, namely anything to do with the leaked DNC and John Podesta emails, as well as hashtags critical of Hillary Clinton while "shadow-banning" pro-Donald Trump content. We can now confirm that at least one part of the above was true, because during today's Senate hearing, Twitter admitted it "buried", which is another word for censored, significant portions of tweets related to hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee and Clinton campaign chair John Podesta in the months heading into the 2016 presidential campaign.

As Daily Caller's Peter Hasson reports, Twitter’s systems hid 48 percent of tweets using the #DNCLeak hashtag and 25 percent of tweets using #PodestaEmails, Twitter general counsel Sean Edgett said in his written testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee on Tuesday.

Before the election, we also detected and took action on activity relating to hashtags that have since been reported as manifestations of efforts to interfere with the 2016 election. For example, our automated spam detection systems helped mitigate the impact of automated Tweets promoting the #PodestaEmails hashtag, which originated with Wikileaks’ publication of thousands of emails from the Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s Gmail account.

The core of the hashtag was propagated by Wikileaks, whose account sent out a series of 118 original Tweets containing variants on the hashtag #PodestaEmails referencing the daily installments of the emails released on the Wikileaks website. In the two months preceding the election, around 57,000 users posted approximately 426,000 unique Tweets containing variations of the #PodestaEmails hashtag.

Approximately one quarter (25%) of those Tweets received internal tags from our automation detection systems that hid them from searches.

As described in greater detail below, our systems detected and hid just under half (48%) of the Tweets relating to variants of another notable hashtag, #DNCLeak, which concerned the disclosure of leaked emails from the Democratic National Committee.

continued..

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-1...onths-campaign

Seems election tampering isn't just for Russians. ROFL

I'm shocked. Really. Totally shocked....

And here I thought they were pro free speech after letting #rape Melania trend without objection.

anderson 11-02-2017 06:33 AM

Do you still think the Rape Melania placard wasn't staged?

Because the #RapeMelania hashtag wasn't trending because of a bunch of wankers wishing rape on the first lady, but because some dullard decided to pose and then post pictures and videos.
That whole mess has been thoroughly debunked. For all the talk to fake news, blah blah blah, zerohedge and other media outlets sure do go far out of their way to promote things like these.

Baron Samedi 11-02-2017 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anderson (Post 2474928)
Do you still think the Rape Melania placard wasn't staged?

Because the #RapeMelania hashtag wasn't trending because of a bunch of wankers wishing rape on the first lady, but because some dullard decided to pose and then post pictures and videos.
That whole mess has been thoroughly debunked. For all the talk to fake news, blah blah blah, zerohedge and other media outlets sure do go far out of their way to promote things like these.

It was allowed to trend, while they disallowed pro-Trump and Podesta email hashtags.

We are talking about Twitter's management here.

anderson 11-02-2017 06:44 AM

I think you are a bit confused.

There is a difference between anti-spam algos picking up automated shit vs letting users discuss the planting of a fake sign at a rally.

Baron Samedi 11-02-2017 06:55 AM

Before the election, we also detected and took action on activity relating to hashtags that have since been reported as manifestations of efforts to interfere with the 2016 election. For example, our automated spam detection systems helped mitigate the impact of automated Tweets
promoting the #PodestaEmails hashtag, which originated with Wikileaks’ publication of thousands of emails from the Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s Gmail account. The core of the hashtag was propagated by Wikileaks, whose account sent out a series of 118 original
Tweets containing variants on the hashtag #PodestaEmails referencing the daily installments of the emails released on the Wikileaks website. In the two months preceding the election, around 57,000 users posted approximately 426,000 unique Tweets containing variations of the #PodestaEmails hashtag. Approximately one quarter (25%) of those Tweets received internal tags from our automation detection systems that hid them from searches. As described in greater detail below, our systems detected and hid just under half (48%) of the Tweets relating to variants of another notable hashtag, #DNCLeak, which concerned the disclosure of leaked emails
from the Democratic National Committee. These steps were part of our general efforts at the time to fight automation and spam on our platform across all areas.


https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo...0Testimony.pdf

Let's do the math...

2 Months...approximately 60 days.

57,000 users
426,000 unique Tweets

That's about 8 unique tweets per account, over two months...so about one unique tweet per week.

Seems like "automated spam accounts" to me. :coffee:

anderson 11-02-2017 07:00 AM

Yes, and a quarter of those were flagged as spam accounts. The rest weren't.

Baron Samedi 11-02-2017 07:54 AM

OK, I don't have a Twitter account, so maybe some expert Twits on here can inform me...

Does making two Tweets a week qualify as spam, or a bot system?

Something tells me "#NeverTrump" probably never got flagged.

anderson 11-02-2017 08:03 AM

Your analysis makes no sense. You can't just average things out and state that each user sent two tweets. You can only say that 57,000 users sent out at least one tweet.

Besides modern spam fighting tools are far more sophisticated to make volume the number one criteria of whether something should be flagged or not.

Edit: And besides, there is relatively solid evidence that #NeverTrump was suppressed at least in Twitter's trending hashtag lists.

Baron Samedi 11-02-2017 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anderson (Post 2474970)
Your analysis makes no sense. You can't just average things out and state that each user sent two tweets. You can only say that 57,000 users sent out at least one tweet.

Besides modern spam fighting tools are far more sophisticated to make volume the number one criteria of whether something should be flagged or not.

Edit: And besides, there is relatively solid evidence that #NeverTrump was suppressed at least in Twitter's trending hashtag lists.

"Unique" tweets....their word, not mine.

It's an important word in context.

anderson 11-02-2017 08:52 AM

Unique has nothing to do with what I wrote.

Baron Samedi 11-02-2017 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anderson (Post 2474994)
Unique has nothing to do with what I wrote.

"unique" tweets means that it's not spambots. It means someone is writing them.

anderson 11-02-2017 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baron Samedi (Post 2475086)
"unique" tweets means that it's not spambots. It means someone is writing them.

No it doesn't.

Baron Samedi 11-02-2017 01:46 PM

2. Analysis and Key Findings
We identified nine accounts that had at least one of the criteria for a Russian-linkedaccount and promoted election-related content Tweets that, based on our manual review, violatedexisting or recently implemented ads policies, such as those prohibiting inflammatory or low-quality content.Two of those accounts were @RT_COM and @RT_America. Those two accountsrepresented the vast majority of the promoted Tweets, spend and impressions for the suspectgroup identified in our review. Together, the two accounts spent $516,900 in advertising in2016, with $234,600 of that amount devoted to ads that were served to users in the U.S. Duringthat period, the two accounts promoted 1,912 Tweets and generated approximately 192 millionimpressions across all ad campaigns, with approximately 53.5 million representing impressionsgenerated by U.S.-based users.On Thursday, October 26, 2017, Twitter announced that it would no longer acceptadvertisements from RT and will donate the $1.9 million that RT had spent globally onadvertising on Twitter to academic research into elections and civil engagement.The remaining seven accounts that our review identified represented small, apparentlyunconnected actors. Those accounts spent a combined total of $2,282 on advertising throughTwitter in 2016, with $1,184 of this amount spent on ads that were served to users in the U.S.Our available impressions data indicates that in 2016, those accounts ran 404 promoted Tweetsand generated a total of 2.29 million impressions across all ad campaigns.


"We found RT America to be the only Russian account with any traffic" ROFL ROFL ROFL

So, once again....a public media news network is the only thing they've got for "Russian spies overturning the election".

Damn, we had better ban BBC and Sky news from reporting on US elections! <GASP!> Al Jazeera might flip the election to a pro Al Qaeda candidate!

Lord Help Us!

We must censor all foreign media in the US. No outside information must be allowed! ROFL ROFL ROFL

foobahl 11-02-2017 02:11 PM

we have always been at war with eastasia

Jaric 11-02-2017 02:14 PM

Oh, is Baron defending Russian Bots now?

I can see why that would be an issue he cares deeply about....

anderson 11-02-2017 03:13 PM

The story on Trump's subdomains is sort of interesting. Baron would get a good week out of it if it were Hillary's servers

Jaric 11-02-2017 09:44 PM

It's fascinating to watch the party that loves to complain about the country being run by "old white men" turn to an "old white man," as the "future" of the party.

Baron Samedi 11-02-2017 10:53 PM

I'm sure Russia is the only country on the planet with Twitter accounts tweeting about the US elections. And only in glowing terms about Trump. :coffee:

Darth Despot 11-06-2017 04:01 PM

OK so Kelly Ann Conway says Politicizing the texas mass shooting is disrespectful to the dead.

With a straight face..

One week after her boss blamed Chuck Schumer for the New York truck attack because he supported the visa program the attacker used to enter the country.

Jaric 11-06-2017 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth Despot (Post 2476347)
OK so Kelly Ann Conway says Politicizing the texas mass shooting is disrespectful to the dead.

With a straight face..

One week after her boss blamed Chuck Schumer for the New York truck attack because he supported the visa program the attacker used to enter the country.

The ethics of politicizing tragedy seem wholely dependent on if that politicization supports or detracts from the individual's personal politics.

This is 100% bi-partisan.

anderson 11-07-2017 11:51 AM

No mention of the Paradise Papers? I'm disappointed.

Jaric 11-07-2017 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anderson (Post 2476570)
No mention of the Paradise Papers? I'm disappointed.

Yeah I just saw that and haven't begun to unpack it.

There's so ****ing much it's impossible to keep up.

anderson 11-07-2017 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaric (Post 2476609)
Yeah I just saw that and haven't begun to unpack it.

There's so ****ing much it's impossible to keep up.

We need to have a discussion about the 0.01%!

Darth Despot 11-07-2017 01:37 PM

The douchbagery to be exposed by these papers will be super duper bi-partisan.

anderson 11-07-2017 01:42 PM

Some pretty juicy stuff revealed in the UK already.

The Queen has been offshoring her private assets (and she does actually pay taxes!)
Prince Charles the same, I believe.
Random sports stars.

But worst of all, although I haven't had a chance to really delve into that aspect, is the mega-ultra-unashamed tax dodging by multinationals.
Zuckerberg might try to present an image of a do-good philanthropist, but apparently Facebook has been shifting money around like whoa to avoid paying corporate taxes. Apple the same.

I hope practices will change and it won't all be written off as "oh, but we owe it to our shareholders"

Baron Samedi 11-07-2017 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anderson (Post 2476570)
No mention of the Paradise Papers? I'm disappointed.

Haven't had much time to delve into it, but secret accounts in sketchy firms in obscure countries holding hi8dden accounts of rich and powerful people in government isn't really a revelation, is it?

What I am interested in mostly, is who is avoiding taxes vs who is evading taxes.

Tax avoidance is legal, tax evasion is not. Therein lies my interest.

Darth Despot 11-08-2017 11:14 AM

I think hypocrisy is kind of fun to point out too.

BostonTim 11-08-2017 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anderson (Post 2472811)
Pretty sure that's the substance that killed the artist formerly (and lovingly) known as Prince.

They offered it to me as part of my pain management regimen and I told them put a bag of dicks to their lips.

At his passing, I believe he was the Artist formerly known as the Artist formerly known as prince. :shrug:

Baron Samedi 11-14-2017 07:24 AM

Socialism gone wild...

Florida Court Rules Couple Not Allowed to Grow Vegetables in Their Own Front Yard

http://theantimedia.org/miami-shores...rd-vegetables/

Apparently, Pink Flamingos are OK, but vegetable gardens are not.

Baron Samedi 11-14-2017 12:05 PM

Military Coup Reportedly Under Way In Zimbabwe

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-1...r-way-zimbabwe

New blood pressure range means half of Americans have hypertension

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN1DD2Q2

Must sell more HBP drugs!

They did the same thing in the 90's with obesity, changed the scale to make more Americans obese. Worked fantastic. Just look at the market for weight loss drugs and programs. It's no accident the boom started in the 90's.

Guess the new snake oil will be for High Blood Pressure....130/80 is good enough to put you on some kind of medication. That's essentially what this is. How low of a blood pressure reading can we prescribe medication to and make some money?

anderson 11-15-2017 05:24 AM

Have you looked into the science behind the decision? Is there evidence that arteries around your kidneys will **** up if you have 130/80?

I haven't looked into the research, but know there's significant risk at 140/90.

Baron Samedi 11-15-2017 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anderson (Post 2478725)
Have you looked into the science behind the decision? Is there evidence that arteries around your kidneys will **** up if you have 130/80?

I haven't looked into the research, but know there's significant risk at 140/90.

130/80 has always been "high normal'...not in itself much f a risk but combined with other factors, such as weight, cholesterol, stuff like that can significantly increase risk of heart attack or stroke.

But, say, someone who is 25 years old and not overweight, that is a perfectly normal blood pressure.

I'm no expert, it's just one of those things that runs in the family, so I have a sort of lifetime of dinner table talk.

Jaric 11-15-2017 08:53 AM

Oh hey, more evidence the American diet and lifestyle is killing us!

Darth Despot 11-15-2017 11:57 AM

Just an aside,

Without considering the merits of the accusations lodged against him.

Looking only at what he stands for, what he is not only documented to have said, but what he is proud to have said, and his record as a Judge, Roy Moore is exactly the reason I just can't vote Republican anymore. I mean I don't love the Dems but really?

If I have a choice between him and a straight Leninist, then I will join the collective.

Baron Samedi 11-15-2017 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth Despot (Post 2478797)
Just an aside,

Without considering the merits of the accusations lodged against him.

Looking only at what he stands for, what he is not only documented to have said, but what he is proud to have said, and his record as a Judge, Roy Moore is exactly the reason I just can't vote Republican anymore. I mean I don't love the Dems but really?

If I have a choice between him and a straight Leninist, then I will join the collective.

I get what you're saying, but I'd probably just;
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/99/8f/a8/9...awn-tomboy.jpg

AkPatsFan 11-15-2017 04:11 PM

Moore needs to step down, he's not convincing anyone that he's telling the truth. After listening to his interview with Hannity last week he did more to prove his guilt than his innocence.

PatsFanLisa 11-15-2017 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AkPatsFan (Post 2478930)
Moore needs to step down, he's not convincing anyone that he's telling the truth. After listening to his interview with Hannity last week he did more to prove his guilt than his innocence.

No, PLEASE let him stay in the race. It would be a slam dunk for a Dem seat.

Plus, if for any reason Alabamans are as backwards as they appear and vote him in, I would eagerly look forward to the Senate GOP shit fest that would ensue.

Or his expulsion.

Baron Samedi 11-15-2017 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatsFanLisa (Post 2478964)
No, PLEASE let him stay in the race. It would be a slam dunk for a Dem seat.

Plus, if for any reason Alabamans are as backwards as they appear and vote him in, I would eagerly look forward to the Senate GOP shit fest that would ensue.

Or his expulsion.

Hate to break it to you, but Moore is likely to win.

He can be removed once he is sworn in, but that doesn't default to democrats. The governor, I think, gets to pick someone.

anderson 11-16-2017 03:09 AM

Moore is going to win because ultimately Alabama is going to Alabama.

anderson 11-16-2017 04:19 AM

Quote:

Judge Roy Moore @MooreSenate
Dear Mitch McConnell,

Bring. It. On.
1:52 AM - Nov 16, 2017
Have to say, though. It's a bold move to respond to allegations of improper conduct with teenagers by referring to a movie about teenage cheerleaders :coffee:

Jaric 11-16-2017 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anderson (Post 2478986)
Have to say, though. It's a bold move to respond to allegations of improper conduct with teenagers by referring to a movie about teenage cheerleaders :coffee:

Not nearly as bold as suggesting a brown guy should be totes cool with ****ing kids because of his "background."

PatsFanLisa 11-16-2017 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baron Samedi (Post 2478972)

Hate to break it to you, but Moore is likely to win.

He can be removed once he is sworn in, but that doesn't default to democrats. The governor, I think, gets to pick someone.

Oh, he definitely has his evangelical base support, no matter what, but I think the Republican vote will be split by virtue of write-up, which may push Jones over the top. He's already made huge advances in the polls since this all broke.

Very difficult to remove him if he's voted in.

Jaric 11-16-2017 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatsFanLisa (Post 2479013)
Oh, he definitely has his evangelical base support, no matter what, but I think the Republican vote will be split by virtue of write-up, which may push Jones over the top. He's already made huge advances in the polls since this all broke.

Very difficult to remove him if he's voted in.

Evangelicals may be the worst ambassadors of Christianity since the Inquisition.

Baron Samedi 11-16-2017 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anderson (Post 2478986)
Have to say, though. It's a bold move to respond to allegations of improper conduct with teenagers by referring to a movie about teenage cheerleaders :coffee:

I have no idea if the allegations are true...I give them a 50/50 chance of being true....but the responses from the Moore camp really are priceless. I can't believe some of the stuff the Moore camp and their supporters ahve thrown out there.

I'm waiting for the "incest is best" argument because Lot impregnated his daughters.

I'm almost rooting for Moore, not for political reasons, but just to see what kind of soundbites we get from him in Washington...could be epic stuff.

Jaric 11-16-2017 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baron Samedi (Post 2479022)
I have no idea if the allegations are true...I give them a 50/50 chance of being true....but the responses from the Moore camp really are priceless. I can't believe some of the stuff the Moore camp and their supporters ahve thrown out there.

I'm waiting for the "incest is best" argument because Lot impregnated his daughters.

I'm almost rooting for Moore, not for political reasons, but just to see what kind of soundbites we get from him in Washington...could be epic stuff.

Any skepticism I had went out the window the moment I heard the responses coming out of the Moore camp.

They've actively convinced me of their own guilt. Especially when so many of the defense haven't been denials of the behavior, but attempts to justify it.

Darth Despot 11-16-2017 09:13 AM

If you take Roy Moore's statements throughout his life, Search "Jesus" and replace "Mohammed" he'd be a proponent of Sharia Law, and probably Taliban.

Jaric 11-16-2017 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth Despot (Post 2479035)
If you take Roy Moore's statements throughout his life, Search "Jesus" and replace "Mohammed" he'd be a proponent of Sharia Law, and probably Taliban.

I made a similar comment to friend yesterday. I'm positive this checks out.

Baron Samedi 11-16-2017 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatsFanLisa (Post 2479013)
Very difficult to remove him if he's voted in.

It will be impossible from stopping him from getting sworn in, but once in...I don't know...you need 2/3 of the Senate to vote to remove him, I think, right?

I think getting that 2/3 won't be difficult. I can see that being done quickly and easily. You automatically get the democrats, presumably (foolishly, I think...the Democrats would benefit from Moore's presence there for the next campaign), and McConnell is on board...I see 2/3 being a cakewalk....unless the democrats smarten up and abstain or something, let Moore stay so they can campaign against him in the next election.

AkPatsFan 11-16-2017 11:10 AM

Uh oh, looks like Stewart Smalley could be in trouble.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...Snk?ocid=ientp

Baron Samedi 11-16-2017 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AkPatsFan (Post 2479078)
Uh oh, looks like Stewart Smalley could be in trouble.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...Snk?ocid=ientp

Wow. Shocking. I'm shocked. :coffee:

http://images.tritondigitalcms.com/6...rplane-pic.jpg

Jaric 11-16-2017 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AkPatsFan (Post 2479078)
Uh oh, looks like Stewart Smalley could be in trouble.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...Snk?ocid=ientp

BINGO!

What do I win?

Darth Despot 11-16-2017 01:04 PM

Clean 'em all out, I think it's fair to hold elected officials to the no-grope standard.

anderson 11-16-2017 01:08 PM

Assuming she had a nice personality, I wouldn't mind some consensual groping going on with Leeann Tweeden.

Feel free to google image search.

Baron Samedi 11-16-2017 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaric (Post 2479121)
BINGO!

What do I win?

https://www.dailywire.com/sites/defa...?itok=2JcaDc7X

Jaric 11-16-2017 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baron Samedi (Post 2479126)

That's so gross.

Baron Samedi 11-16-2017 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaric (Post 2479133)
That's so gross.

yeah, but thanks to trolling you, I think I found my Yankee Swap gift for this year. :toast:

anderson 11-22-2017 04:34 AM

Quote:

Alabama pastor: Roy Moore dated "younger ladies" because of their "purity" http://hill.cm/t54Lqea
Those CHRISTIAN VALUES doe

Darth Despot 11-22-2017 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anderson (Post 2480479)
Those CHRISTIAN VALUES doe

WOW...

This guy is like a gift that keeps on giving.

Vote for Christian Taliban because Gorsuch or something.

Baron Samedi 11-22-2017 02:39 PM

More interesting "Cops Gone Wild" stories...

Cops Thought Innocent Man Shoplifted a Shirt, So 50 SWAT Cops Tore Down His House

Greenwood Village, CO – An innocent man’s home was destroyed by police after 50 SWAT officers responded to reports of a man shoplifting a shirt and two belts from a store. Even though the city declared the man’s house a complete loss, he was given just $5,000 in compensation, and he is now filing a lawsuit for “just compensation.”

Leo Lech lost his home in June 2015, after police launched a 19-hour standoff that included the use of armored vehicles, breaching rams, high-caliber rifles, chemical agents, flash-bang grenades and remote-controlled robots. While his home became “collateral damage,” neither Lech nor his family had any ties to the target the officers were pursuing.

It all started when a 30-year-old man was accused of shoplifting a shirt and two belts from a local Walmart. Police claim that when they approached Robert Jonathan Seacat, he fled the scene and officers followed him. After he drove to a nearby light rail stop, he abandoned the car he was driving and took shelter in a random house.

According to a report from the Denver Post, officers claimed that when they entered the home, “Seacat, who was on an upper floor, fired four or five shots through the floor at officers below.” Police decided to respond to one man barricaded in a home and armed with a handgun by employing 50 SWAT officers and a host of expensive technology, destroying the majority of the home, before they found their suspect in a bathroom and arrested him.

The National Tactical Officers Association (NTOA) described the strategy used by the SWAT officers as “calculated destruction,” in which they launched explosives throughout the house, room-by-room, in order to isolate Seacat.

“Though accounts of Seacat’s weaponry differ, court documents provide a startling summary of the police arsenal: 50 SWAT officers bombarded Lech’s property with 40 mm rounds, tear gas, flashbang grenades, two armored Bearcats, and breaching rams. A total of ‘68 cold chemical munitions and four hot gas munitions’ were detonated inside the Greenwood Village home.

Remote-controlled robots were also used during the raid. The first robot was deployed to track Seacat’s whereabouts inside the house and attempt to deliver a phone to Seacat so that he could directly communicate with police. However, the robot could not maneuver through the debris inside the home, and eventually got stuck.

To retrieve the robot, an officer attempted to throw a flashbang grenade upstairs toward Seacat to create a diversion. However, the grenade bounced back downstairs toward the team of officers, forcing them to scatter and retreat. The official report states that the grenade ‘failed to land in its desired location.’ Eventually, a second robot was used to retrieve the first one.”


While one may wonder why Seacat continued to stay in the house, even after police spent several hours using extreme methods to get him out, a review from the NTOA reported by the Denver Post, claimed that, “Seacat was not only actively using methamphetamine, but he had also swallowed containers of the substance, which were now leaking into his system.”

As a result of Seacat’s impaired state, the review concluded that the chemical agents used by the officers likely did not affect him, noting, “One can only speculate as to the effect this had on Seacat’s ability to think rationally, and to what degree the drug minimized the effects of any chemical munitions, which were later introduced.”

The amount of force and technology police used, in order to arrest a man who was suspected of shoplifting clothes from Walmart is bizarre, but the fact that they seemed intent on practically destroying an innocent man’s home is even worse.

According to the report from Reason, the commanding officer during the raid, Dustin Varney, instructed his team to “take as much of the building as needed, without making the roof fall,” and that is exactly what they did.

“They came and they destroyed the house. It was condemned, it had to be torn down, and they offered me $5,000,” Lech told the Denver Post, noting that his son’s family, who was renting the house from him, had all of their personal belongings destroyed, and were never compensated.

Although Lech’s house was declared “a complete loss” following the raid, the City of Greenwood Village offered him just $5,000 for temporary living arrangements. In response, he filed a federal lawsuit, claiming civil rights violations, and unjust compensation from the government. Lech told CBS Denver that he expects his case to be heard in federal court in January 2018.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/fif...e-shoplifting/
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http://thefreethoughtproject.com/wp-...dvillagep1.jpg

Baron Samedi 11-22-2017 02:45 PM

This one seems to be a regular TJ Hooker...

Dashcam Shows Cop Savagely Beat a Compliant Teen to the Point of Hospitalization

Atlanta, GA — Police officers beat people on video a lot. And, more often than not, the officers will keep their jobs in spite of video evidence of the attack. However, an attack on a teenager by an Atlanta cop was so egregious that it did, in fact, cost him his job. But because he is a cop, he was not charged and can go on to be hired by another department.

Disturbing dashcam footage of the beating of an Atlanta teenager was released this week showing the brutal actions of former Atlanta police officer Matthew Johns. The video shows Johns repeatedly stomp, kick, and punch the teen who was not at all resisting arrest.

Johns was not supposed to be there that day because he was on a ‘no drive list’ for irresponsibly crashing his cruiser a few weeks prior. However, he was still allowed to check one out, use it to ram another car, and then savagely beat a teen and lie about the entire ordeal.

It all unfolded on Sept. 15, 2016, in southwest Atlanta. Former officer Matthew Johns, who was a part of the department’s elite Apex Unit, arrived at the scene after the pursuit led by Zone 3 officers and Georgia State Patrol.

Johns, who we’ve learned is also a Marine, is seen jumping out of a cruiser and immediately runs up to one of the three teenage suspects in the stolen car and kicks him in the head.

The video also shows he kicked the teen more than once, struck him on his side repeatedly and then was seen kneeling on his neck before punching him in the head while cuffing him.

Johns told investigators he thought the teen was reaching for a gun. But one of his supervisors didn’t think his story added up, especially when the other officers on scene said the three suspects never resisted.


According to the report, after the incident, Johns was placed on administrative leave and no action was taken until a new police chief took office and reopened the case.

Johns was then fired. However, for beating a compliant suspect for no reason, he will face no criminal charges, he will keep his peace officer’s license, and he is eligible to be hired by another department immediately.

The teen who Johns beat to a pulp was in a stolen a car. He deserved due process and to be to be held accountable for his actions. However, because of Johns’ inability to resist violently lashing out, this teen’s alleged car theft will now end up costing the taxpayers of Atlanta in the likely lawsuit that will follow.

WSB-TV reached out to the Atlanta Police Department for a statement and received the following:

“The behavior by former Officer Matthew Johns exhibited on this videotape does not reflect the standards of conduct expected of Atlanta Police officers. His actions were unacceptable and – as a result – he was terminated. An additional three officers were disciplined because of other violations resulting from this incident, including disregarding our pursuit policy.”

Because the suspect was a minor his name was not released. However, the family contacted the local media and shared a photo of their son. He was beaten so badly by Johns that he was hospitalized with a concussion and suffered multiple lacerations to his face.

As the Free Thought Project previously reported, Georgia has a problem with cops like Johns.

Almost half of the people killed by police in Georgia since 2010 were unarmed or shot in the back according to a new investigation. More than one-third of those killed were shot at their own home after officers responded to a call for help or a domestic dispute.

A recent investigation from the Atlanta Journal-Constitution analyzed 184 fatal police shootings in the state of Georgia since 2010. According to the data, at least 70 people were shot in the back by police officers. Roughly one in six people were unarmed, while one in four exhibited signs of mental illness before their deaths. At least 11 people were both unarmed and shot in the back when police officers killed them.

The report also found at least 20 cops involved in fatal shootings had serious prior issues filed against them. Four had been previously fired or resigned, two were disciplined for lying, and two others had failed to complete state-mandated annual use-of-force training to keep their arresting powers when they killed suspects. Johns is now included in this list.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/atl...-beating-teen/

Jaric 11-23-2017 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth Despot (Post 2480495)
WOW...

This guy is like a gift that keeps on giving.

Vote for Christian Taliban because Gorsuch or something.

This is why we can't have nice things.

anderson 11-23-2017 11:37 AM

Apparently Roy Moore also "noticed his wife" when she was 15-16

Jaric 11-23-2017 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by anderson (Post 2480693)
Apparently Roy Moore also "noticed his wife" when she was 15-16

When all this broke, I was reminded how in high school, we'd make fun of the senior men who'd end up dating freshmen girls.

I mean, I'm 37 and I can't imagine dating anyone much younger than 30. Like, what do you talk about?

Baron Samedi 11-23-2017 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaric (Post 2480695)
When all this broke, I was reminded how in high school, we'd make fun of the senior men who'd end up dating freshmen girls.

I mean, I'm 37 and I can't imagine dating anyone much younger than 30. Like, what do you talk about?

Someone your age should know this, you disappoint me.

You let them do the talking and you pretend to listen.:coffee:

Dwight Schrute 11-23-2017 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaric (Post 2480695)
When all this broke, I was reminded how in high school, we'd make fun of the senior men who'd end up dating freshmen girls.

I mean, I'm 37 and I can't imagine dating anyone much younger than 30. Like, what do you talk about?

Smoke of the day say 23?

Anything she wants to. Just focus on being a fast learner.


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