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Claremonster 08-28-2012 05:29 PM

ROFL

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@SooperMexican: Ron Paul seen on convention rooftop, shaking angry fist at chemtrails. #RNC2012
:coffee:

BradyLady12 08-28-2012 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by gunrunner (Post 1920249)
AWESOME!!Someone else who has also followed all this crap and knows what she's talking about!!Makes me sick to my stomach and feel totally helpless to do anything about it.Where are our nations laws at this time??Where is the public outrage??Our political process has been totally corrupted and no one seems to even give a damn.WTF?

We all knew it was Romney the day after McCain lost.

Good for Minnesota in not stripping delegates: "Proud to have run a fair election with integrity" Gives 33 to Paul, 1 Santorum, 6 Romney

Also: Chris Christie was Romney's first choice as VP, but he turned it down because he'd have had to resign as NJ gov, and he thought Romney would lose. ROFL

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/nationa...8CtDgcuiuEgMqL

anderson 08-28-2012 05:52 PM

Chris Christie couldn't slobber more on Romney's knob when he was out in California, though.

BradyLady12 08-28-2012 06:09 PM

Ron Paul supporters walk out of the "criminal syndicate meeting in Tampa." ( Lew's words....which are awesome!)

I think Lew may be right when he says "Secession and independence, folks. That is the answer."

com/news/politics/la-pn-ron-paul-supporters-walk-out-of-gop-convention-20120828,0,3246451.story


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TAMPA, Fla. — Ron Paul supporters at the Republican National Convention erupted in fury Tuesday over decisions that weakened their delegate count and other rule changes that will make it harder for non-establishment candidates in future elections.

Several members of the Maine delegation walked out of the Tampa Bay Times Forum after the convention affirmed the GOP’s decision to replace 10 of Maine’s 24 delegates.

“It’s a disgusting, disgusting display of a hostile takeover from the top down,” said Ashley Ryan, 21, a Maine delegate. “It’s an embarrassment.”

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But the decision to not seat the original Maine delegation, and the approval of rules that will make it harder for grass-roots-fueled candidates in the future, caused an uproar in the handful of state delegations dominated by Paul supporters, as well as some others that are concerned about the GOP centralizing power in the hands of a few and taking it away from the states.

Wiselot Rouzard, a delegate from Nevada and a Paul supporter, compared the situation to Adolf Hitler taking power in Germany.

“There’s nothing American about what just happened,” he said. “This is the death of the Republican Party.”

Claremonster 08-28-2012 06:16 PM

Ummm yeah. So rule changes requiring delegates to vote according to the voter's wishes is a "power grab" by a "criminal syndicate"? Really?

ROFL

BradyLady12 08-28-2012 06:22 PM

There's more than that changed. You realize that if those changes existed before they could have prevented Reagan from getting nominated right? Remember, his was an insurgency against the Bush RINO wing.

Give me that microphone.


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The tussle was part of a larger fight involving Paul forces and others who were fighting a rules change that would give the party establishment a greater voice in the choice of future delegates.
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics...,3848091.story

HomelessJoe 08-29-2012 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Claremonster (Post 1921542)
ROFL



:coffee:

http://www.globalnerdy.com/wordpress...g_at_cloud.jpg

BradyLady12 08-31-2012 10:43 AM

Finally....
 
...the TRUTH comes out about why Paul did not go after Mitt.

The Romney campaign had a lot of money and they threatened to drop an A-Bomb on Ron Paul in order to destroy his name and reputation forever. So Jesse Benton made the decision that since Romney was going to win, to not risk it. This was just before going into Michigan. So much for those two being friends.

Doug Wead wanted to go after Mitt and felt that any such A-Bomb by Romney would just make Paul even bigger with the controversy. So he felt this was one move was a mistake. This is covered at 21:15 of the video in the link. I commented on how I felt this was a mistake too.

Also covers why the Paul Campaign did not hide their strategy as some followers thought they should have; and why delegates were still stripped, even though Romney was still going to win. They would have had eleven states going in which would have given their message more power. So the RNC was still nervous leading to the scripted "ayes" on the change in the rules. Yep! They are scared of the message of liberty, the Constitution that requires a Declaration of War, keeping the internet free and auditing the Fed.

Wead interview covers why someone has to be the politician in a campaign, such as Jesse Benton. However there were people connected to the movement selling things like books who can afford to be more provocative as it sells things.


http://libertycrier.com/politics/dou...ith-pr-a-bomb/

Claremonster 08-31-2012 12:43 PM

So, what "a-bomb" dropped by the Romney campaign would have destroyed Ron Paul's legacy forever? And, why would Ron Paul cave based on the threat of this "a-bomb"? Was it something really bad in Ron Paul's past? or what? Not a lot of detail there. :coffee:

BostonTim 09-01-2012 05:52 PM

I confess I have a certain discomfort insinuating myself into this thread. Mainly because I haven't followed it faithfully.

But while I understand Bls issue re; the Paul wing, I have to say that while Mitt doesn't ring my bell, I NEED to defeat Obama first. He is the CLEAR and PRESENT Danger. Every other issue is secondary.

Just sayin'.


Cheers, BostonTim

BradyLady12 09-06-2012 12:23 PM

"Reform Party of Kansas Offered Ron Paul Their Presidential Ballot Line

In such a hyper-Republican state, it might not make a difference. In any event, Ron neither encourages nor opposes such efforts, meaning he would sign no election forms."

http://lewrockwell.com/rockwell/kans...-ron-paul.html

Interesting, since last week, the Alaska Campaign for Liberty, tried to appeal to Ron to run on the Libertarian party ticket with Johnson as VP. This is only because the Libertarian Party is already on every state ballot and it's difficult to get an Indy ballot at this point in time. It's hard period because the two parties made it that way. Meanwhile, more RNC shenanigans to kick Johnson off the ballots of about seven states is currently taking place. He's polling at 7% in some western states already.

Claremonster 09-06-2012 12:28 PM

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Meanwhile, more RNC shenanigans to kick Johnson off the ballots of about seven states is currently taking place. He's polling at 7% in some western states already.

You mean shenanigans like this?

WA: Libertarians’ effort to kick Romney off ballot thrown out
http://watchdog.org/51711/wa-liberta...ot-thrown-out/


:coffee:

BradyLady12 09-06-2012 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BostonTim (Post 1923267)
I confess I have a certain discomfort insinuating myself into this thread. Mainly because I haven't followed it faithfully.

But while I understand Bls issue re; the Paul wing, I have to say that while Mitt doesn't ring my bell, I NEED to defeat Obama first. He is the CLEAR and PRESENT Danger. Every other issue is secondary.

Just sayin'.


Cheers, BostonTim

I understand this election is a referendum on Obama, just as the last one was on Bush. If we never had a Bush, we'd not ever had an Obama. Where does it stop, before the republic has just a small chance of being restored?

Believe me, I am torn. I don't want Obama back either. So for me I change my mind every so many days between voting him out by casting for Mitt or going with Johnson.

I originally was hoping the SC would have taken care of Obamacare. Then I could just vote my conscience with more Rs in the congress to erect barriers on him. Outside of the SC issue, it's just a bad bill which transfers healthcare to youth and cuts it for the elderly. Govt needs to contain costs just like any insurance company would. It's no different. But it will not reduce costs but raise them and access to care will be more difficult with the doctor shortage that results because it increases demand without an increase in supply. It's basic economics. The market will always have the last say.

Though, with Mitt it's only a 50/50 chance of repeal and his "replace" concerns me in that it is vague and he still touts Romneycare. On other issues, the budget's of the two sides are nearly identical. They are fractions of a difference in total expenditures.

On war, both sides are for more war. So that doesn't make a difference for me either. Although, there is a non-alignment movement brewing with other countries, including India, which aids Iran and that may shift some balance of power preventing something on Iran. If that is true, it would remove a major barrier for me on supporting Mitt while holding my nose.

BradyLady12 09-06-2012 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Claremonster (Post 1924715)
You mean shenanigans like this?

WA: Libertarians’ effort to kick Romney off ballot thrown out
http://watchdog.org/51711/wa-liberta...ot-thrown-out/


:coffee:

But why?

"The Republican Party violated state election laws in 2008..." Things that make you go hmmm.
Without that, I'd say it's blowback but still not right. They're just doing what was done to them back.
The LP has little power for such a thing anyway compared to the RNC which is more entrenched including
getting a sympathetic judge.

BradyLady12 09-06-2012 12:42 PM

Aha! Good News!
 
Wayne Allyn Root Quits Libertarian Party :thumb: :toast:

He never belonged.

"Root has proved to be a major embarrassment for the LP by making a number of pro-war and anti-liberty pronouncements. But many desperate LP leaders have been hesitant to remove him from party leadership positions, pursuing an "open tent" strategy to include non- and pseudo-libertarians."
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewr...es/120255.html


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