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midgar8784 09-23-2012 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mooseontheloose (Post 1932534)
I've made this argument over the past year and I can't discount the argument.

However, the Ravens were basically given a free pass on TWO touchdown drives in this game. Brady was pretty solid.

The D got ****ed by the refs, but failed when it mattered most, which has happened too many times in recent years.

But like I said, this argument should have been made last week when the team lost to an INFERIOR opponent. Baltimore is a stud team, top 1-3 in the AFC, and received major help from the refs. Your argument MAY have merit, but a 1-point loss in THIS game isn't grounds for making it IMO.



You mean the 3-0 Cards? Saying Brady and BB cost us this game has zero merit for an argument.

Pneumonic 09-23-2012 11:09 PM

Brady choked when he was needed tonight. Like he has too many times of late.

And this D has sucked for so long now I don't know if it's player or coaches that are the problem. This was but another example of that tonight. Par for the f'n course.

ParanoidPatriot 09-23-2012 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pneumonic (Post 1932496)
Sorry gang but it is the truth.

Those two guys used to win games for us because they were better at their craft than their opponents. It's no longer the case anymore.

You are right. Bob Kraft should step in right now fire BB and trade Brady.

Smudger 09-23-2012 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pneumonic (Post 1932550)
Brady choked when he was needed tonight. Like he has too many times of late.

And this D has sucked for so long now I don't know if it's player or coaches that are the problem. This was but another example of that tonight. Par for the f'n course.

I can't tell if you're serious. I mean, I assume you aren't, but this is kind of a weird time for a joke.

Pneumonic 09-23-2012 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ParanoidPatriot (Post 1932551)
You are right. Bob Kraft should step in right now fire BB and trade Brady.

Not a practical solution.

Pneumonic 09-23-2012 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Smudger (Post 1932556)
I can't tell if you're serious. I mean, I assume you aren't, but this is kind of a weird time for a joke.

I'm pissed like everyone else. I'm also tired of the D continuing to crap the bed at critical times and I hate that Brady is no longer pulling off wins in big games anymore.

Dominated 09-23-2012 11:16 PM

Im totally done with football until the real refs come back. And I'm not one to blame the refs. This was hands down the worst officiated game I have ever seen on my life they handed em that game on a sivler platter. Fvck you Ratbirds, fvck you refs and lastly fvck you Godell for putting those jack asses on the field. Good bye home feild advantage, hello Jets leading the division. Unreal.

mooseontheloose 09-23-2012 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by midgar8784 (Post 1932539)
You mean the 3-0 Cards? Saying Brady and BB cost us this game has zero merit for an argument.

I didn't say they cost us that game. I meant that losing to the Cards is worthy of a reexamination of the capabilities of this team, including BB/TB.

Losing that cluster**** of agamethatlookedlikefootballbutwasntfootball is one you basically just have to throw away. The D sucked it up as usual and still can't stop a 2-minute drive to save its life, but without those TWO FREE TD drives the game wouldn't have been close anyway.

patsRmyboys 09-23-2012 11:18 PM

These refs are unbelievable... they cost this game, well that and this d's inability to stop one downfield throw by phucking unibrow flacco... defense sucked tonight, absolutely terrible. How many ints will McCourty drop this season?

12over4 09-23-2012 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mooseontheloose (Post 1932566)
I didn't say they cost us that game. I meant that losing to the Cards is worthy of a reexamination of the capabilities of this team, including BB/TB.

Losing that cluster**** of agamethatlookedlikefootballbutwasntfootball is one you basically just have to throw away. The D sucked it up as usual and still can't stop a 2-minute drive to save its life, but without those TWO FREE TD drives the game wouldn't have been close anyway.

Literally every time the Ravens went over the top it was DPI. EV-ER-Y TIME

patriots pam 09-23-2012 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ParanoidPatriot (Post 1932551)
You are right. Bob Kraft should step in right now fire BB and trade Brady.

I agree. Of course I am also functionally insane. :insane:



P.S. I was gonna say functionally retarded but I guess that's not politically correct anymore. Sigh.

midgar8784 09-23-2012 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Pneumonic (Post 1932561)
I'm pissed like everyone else. I'm also tired of the D continuing to crap the bed at critical times and I hate that Brady is no longer pulling off wins in big games anymore.

I am not sure what you wanted Brady to do....our oline is not great so his prime weapon Gronk had to stay in and block, we lost another TE with injury, Edelman went down at the half...Brady played great, he is not the one to point at after this one.

Dominated 09-23-2012 11:21 PM

I have to been this pissed since Febuary last year.

midgar8784 09-23-2012 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pneumonic (Post 1932550)
Brady choked when he was needed tonight. Like he has too many times of late.

And this D has sucked for so long now I don't know if it's player or coaches that are the problem. This was but another example of that tonight. Par for the f'n course.

When did he choke? I must have missed it, when did this happen?

mooseontheloose 09-23-2012 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 12over4 (Post 1932571)
Literally every time the Ravens went over the top it was DPI. EV-ER-Y TIME

I'm aware.

There were still plenty of mistakes for BB to analyze here, and honestly this game was still winnable despite the refs. Think of missed easy INTs, terrible offensive playcalling that stalled drives, etc. and there is still reason to believe this game was not lost ONLY because of the refs.

But that is from a coaches perspective.

As a fan, I want to forget this game ever happened. I have no idea which team deserves to be 2-1 / 1-2 because that failfest certainly didn't help decide it. That game basically sapped all of my excitement for football right now and I just pray the Pats are super pissed and come out for vengeance next week.

Hopefully this game sparks something in the Pats.

But for now, this game will forever be that 'ridiculous game that everyone knows was filled with bullshit but no one wants to remember' ... except Baltimore fans, the Ravens earned it tonight they say!


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