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NEM
01-08-2005, 02:12 PM
Here's a good example as to how Karl Rove has a fantastic brain. Certainly George Bush's pea brain isnt good enough to come up with this one.

And, as usual, it looks good in the headlines and is sure tobuy a lot of votes from the ignorant electorate.

Bush, in his generous manner, has pushed the congress to allow all donations to the tsunami relief fund to be declared as a donation on this year's tax returns for the year 2004.

Wow, that is great, isn't it? What a nice guy.

Well, in a sense it is a good offer, but who is really going to get the benefits, and reap the BIG dollars from it.

Certainly not the average, hard working guy on the street, the middle class land even the lower class, all of which really had feelings about the suffering inthe stricken areas. They dug into their pockets and came up with twenty bucks here, and fifty bucks there, and maybe even a hundred or two, and the donated it...BECASUE THEY CARE, THEY REALLY CARE.

But the ones who WILL benefit , greatly, from Bush's alleged generosity, are the corporations, the multi millionaires, and the ultra wealthy, who all gave in big bundles and will now see it all come back to them in the form of HUGE tax deductions this year.

Do you thinkg that the majority of them gave those big buscks becsue they cared about the suffering, and the death and destruction?

I, for one, seriously doubt it.

In fact, I wouldnt doubt that they were told, BEFORE THEY DONATED, that Bush was gonna do something to make sure they got it all back, or most of it back, in the form of an immediate tax deduction on this year's filing.

So, once again they have deceived the public, with this big hullabaloo about how Mister Nice Guy president wants to thank all the people who donated by letting them claim it on their tax return this year.

Yeah, right, its gonna make a big difference for Mister Middle class and his 25 dollar donation, isn't it?

But it sure will help out those million dollar donors , all the way to the bank.

And, as usual, the American public will be brainwashed into believing that Bush did it for them.

What a scumbucket this Bush really is, or perhaps he is just too stupid to see it, and does exactly what PRESIDENT ROVE tells him to do.

O_P_T
01-08-2005, 05:56 PM
You do realize that any donation to a non-profit organization is always tax deductable.

If you make a donation, it is applied to the year in which you make the donation.

If GWB had done nothing, it simply would mean that any donations made after December 31, 2004 would apply to the 2005 tax year.

All his suggestion is doing is shifting the year in which one can claim the deduction.

NEM
01-08-2005, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by O_P_T
You do realize that any donation to a non-profit organization is always tax deductable.

If you make a donation, it is applied to the year in which you make the donation.

If GWB had done nothing, it simply would mean that any donations made after December 31, 2004 would apply to the 2005 tax year.

All his suggestion is doing is shifting the year in which one can claim the deduction.

I fully understand that. You understand it, and I do. But many other Americans do not. ANd, with the headlines gained, it is, obviously a political stunt. And, I must admit, a good one, probably dreamed up by Rove.

Knowing that the corporations, and the CEO's and even the peons would get the tax deduction in the next year, why do it now? Obviously for political gain, nothing else.

dchester
01-08-2005, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by NEM
I fully understand that. You understand it, and I do. But many other Americans do not. Do you really think you are that much smarter than "many other Americans"?
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NEM
01-08-2005, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by dchester
Do you really think you are that much smarter than "many other Americans"?

Absolutely. And, in all probability, so are you. And, on that token, there are , in all probability, many that are smarter than you, or I.

Dont try to use deception to avoid the truth. You know exactly how I meant it.

There is no doubt that this was, strictly, a political move, knowing that for the most part, the American electorate is "ignorant" to what goes on. And, I mean the true definition of the word "ignorant", not meaning that people are stupid, or dumb.

O_P_T
01-09-2005, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by NEM
Knowing that the corporations, and the CEO's and even the peons would get the tax deduction in the next year, why do it now? Obviously for political gain, nothing else.

Well some of those rich evil corporations or CEO's may be looking at their income statement and would like to create another tax deduction that would help them on this years taxes.

If GWB's proposal is approved, it could generate additional donations now to help the victims.

They know for certain what their income in 2004 is right now and can only predict what it will be in 2005. Therefore they may not have the same motivation to increase their donations right now.

But suppose your interpretation is absolutely right.

So what?

A politician performed a political act?

STOP THE PRESSES!

Oh the humanity! This has never been inflicted on the people of the United States of America before.

:rolleyes:

NEM
01-09-2005, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by O_P_T
Well some of those rich evil corporations or CEO's may be looking at their income statement and would like to create another tax deduction that would help them on this years taxes.

If GWB's proposal is approved, it could generate additional donations now to help the victims.

They know for certain what their income in 2004 is right now and can only predict what it will be in 2005. Therefore they may not have the same motivation to increase their donations right now.

But suppose your interpretation is absolutely right.

So what?

A politician performed a political act?

STOP THE PRESSES!

Oh the humanity! This has never been inflicted on the people of the United States of America before.

:rolleyes:

It is strictly political. This adminstration never has, and never will, do anything for the common man.

freak
01-10-2005, 05:18 AM
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Spinal Tap
01-11-2005, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by NEM
It is strictly political. This adminstration never has, and never will, do anything for the common man.

Ahhhhh, the mantra of the far left political spectrum. I knew it would only be a matter of time before NEM's true colors shined.

What responsibility does government have to "do anything" for the "common man". My mom always told me to work hard in life. She didn't tell me I should sit back and wait for my government to do something for me. I do it for myself.

But thanks for revealing yourself to us. I do appreciate it.