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jim_vh
11-04-2004, 08:58 PM
The election results reflect the decision of the right wing to cultivate and exploit ignorance in the citizenry (http://www.slate.com/id/2109218/)


I say forget introspection. It's time to be honest about our antagonists. My predecessors in this conversation are thoughtful men, and I honor their ideas, but let's try something else. I grew up in Missouri and most of my family voted for Bush, so I am going to be the one to say it: The election results reflect the decision of the right wing to cultivate and exploit ignorance in the citizenry. I suppose the good news is that 55 million Americans have evaded the ignorance-inducing machine. But 58 million have not. (Well, almost 58 million—my relatives are not ignorant, they are just greedy and full of classic Republican feelings of superiority.)

Ignorance and bloodlust have a long tradition in the United States, especially in the red states. There used to be a kind of hand-to-hand fight on the frontier called a "knock-down-drag-out," where any kind of gouging, biting, or maiming was considered fair. The ancestors of today's red-state voters used to stand around cheering and betting on these fights. When the forces of red and blue encountered one another head-on for the first time in Kansas Territory in 1856, the red forces from Missouri, who had been coveting Indian land across the Missouri River since 1820, entered Kansas and stole the territorial election. The red news media of the day made a practice of inflammatory lying—declaring that the blue folks had shot and killed red folks whom everyone knew were walking around. The worst civilian massacre in American history took place in Lawrence, Kan., in 1862—Quantrill's raid. The red forces, known then as the slave-power, pulled 265 unarmed men from their beds on a Sunday morning and slaughtered them in front of their wives and children. The error that progressives have consistently committed over the years is to underestimate the vitality of ignorance in America. Listen to what the red state citizens say about themselves, the songs they write, and the sermons they flock to. They know who they are—they are full of original sin and they have a taste for violence. The blue state citizens make the Rousseauvian mistake of thinking humans are essentially good, and so they never realize when they are about to be slugged from behind.

Here is how ignorance works: First, they put the fear of God into you—if you don't believe in the literal word of the Bible, you will burn in hell. Of course, the literal word of the Bible is tremendously contradictory, and so you must abdicate all critical thinking, and accept a simple but logical system of belief that is dangerous to question. A corollary to this point is that they make sure you understand that Satan resides in the toils and snares of complex thought and so it is best not try it.

Next, they tell you that you are the best of a bad lot (humans, that is) and that as bad as you are, if you stick with them, you are among the chosen. This is flattering and reassuring, and also encourages you to imagine the terrible fates of those you envy and resent. American politicians ALWAYS operate by a similar sort of flattery, and so Americans are never induced to question themselves. That's what happened to Jimmy Carter—he asked Americans to take responsibility for their profligate ways, and promptly lost to Ronald Reagan, who told them once again that they could do anything they wanted. The history of the last four years shows that red state types, above all, do not what to be told what to do—they prefer to be ignorant. As a result, they are virtually unteachable.

Third, and most important, when life grows difficult or fearsome, they (politicians, preachers, pundits) encourage you to cling to your ignorance with even more fervor. But by this time you don't need much encouragement—you've put all your eggs into the ignorance basket, and really, some kind of miraculous fruition (preferably accompanied by the torment of your enemies, and the ignorant always have plenty of enemies) is your only hope. If you are sufficiently ignorant, you won't even know how dangerous your policies are until they have destroyed you, and then you can always blame others.

The reason the Democrats have lost five of the last seven presidential elections is simple: A generation ago, the big capitalists, who have no morals, as we know, decided to make use of the religious right in their class war against the middle class and against the regulations that were protecting those whom they considered to be their rightful prey—workers and consumers. The architects of this strategy knew perfectly well that they were exploiting, among other unsavory qualities, a long American habit of virulent racism, but they did it anyway, and we see the outcome now—Cheney is the capitalist arm and Bush is the religious arm. They know no boundaries or rules. They are predatory and resentful, amoral, avaricious, and arrogant. Lots of Americans like and admire them because lots of Americans, even those who don't share those same qualities, don't know which end is up. Can the Democrats appeal to such voters? Do they want to? The Republicans have sold their souls for power. Must everyone?

Progressives have only one course of action now: React quickly to every outrage—red state types love to cheat and intimidate, so we have to assume the worst and call them on it every time. We have to give them more to think about than they can handle—to always appeal to reason and common sense, and the law, even when they can't understand it and don't respond. They cannot be allowed to keep any secrets. Tens of millions of people didn't vote—they are watching, too, and have to be shown that we are ready and willing to fight, and that the battle is worth fighting. And in addition, we have to remember that threats to democracy from the right always collapse. Whatever their short-term appeal, they are borne of hubris and hatred, and will destroy their purveyors in the end

townes
11-04-2004, 09:04 PM
HALLELUJAH!

dchester
11-04-2004, 09:17 PM
This comment is not really directed at anyone here, but at the liberal elite like Michael Moore, George Soros, or the Mensa candidate that wrote the article above.

It must be eating them up alive knowing that Bush is their daddy!!!

ROFL
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townes
11-04-2004, 09:44 PM
The people who W is "DADDY" to are those who voted for him, as everything he does is going to be their responsibility.

jim_vh
11-05-2004, 01:45 AM
Originally posted by dchester
This comment is not really directed at anyone here, but at the liberal elite like Michael Moore, George Soros, or the Mensa candidate that wrote the article above.

It must be eating them up alive knowing that Bush is their daddy!!!

ROFL

you ignorant DUPE !!

Flagg the Wanderer
11-05-2004, 08:57 AM
Wow, I got stupider just READING that!

The sense of moral and intellectual superiority on the left is probably the single largest turn off to the moderates who would love to have an alternative to Bush.

Mike Barnicle made a great point the other day. Talking about Thursday's Globe Article about Boston feeling a legacy of rejection from the rest of the country, he said (paraphrased): Look, we're all steeped in a culture that basically looks out from the Hub, and mocks everything west of Worcester. Well, it's time to realize that the large majority of the country, even Democrats, are looking back at us and wonder who those freaks are.

Keep ignoring the strength of the opposition, and you'll just keep losing elections...

It's too bad, too, because I think the left has a lot to add to the public discourse. If you think that everyone who supported Bush is religious, think again. In New Hampshire, only 23% of the people attend a religious service weekly (compared to 40% nationally). Yet 49% voted for Bush. Yes, people who attend religious services weekly voted for Bush by a 9 to 1 margin.

But there are two things to take from that: 1) Don't expect to win elections when the left consistantly belittles the core beliefs of 40% of the population; and 2) People who aren't religious supported Bush, too.

The very fact that this columnist uses religion in the context of "cultivating and exploiting ignorance" exposes him for what he is: a bigot - prejudiced against those who have the unmitigated gall to believe in something larger than themselves, who have the termerity to have faith in a power they can neither see nor define. It's not "interesting," it's disgusting in the same way it would be disgusting if I wrote an article claiming that all Jews were ignorant.

Additionally, it parochial regionalist bigotry aimed at Southern stereotypes, too.

The entire "us vs. them" mentality of the left is disgusting. On the far right, the same is true. The labelling of "Red Staters" and "Blue Staters" is disgusting.

Spinal Tap
11-05-2004, 09:17 AM
Wait a minute. Isn't it ignorant to lump all 59 million people that voted for Bush into the "ignorant" basket? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. It's stuff like this that drives people away from the left. Get a clue.

For the record. Lots of ignorant people voted for Bush. Just as many ignorant people voted for Kerry. It's a bit simplistic to say that Republicans are ignorant and Democrats are intellectual. That's just plain dumb.

Ballbustah
11-05-2004, 11:12 AM
As I have said before.... I normally vote republican because they usually spend less money then the Dems but this Bush guy is breaking all records.

Really staggering defecit....
How we gonna climb outta that hole?

townes
11-05-2004, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by Flagg Wanderer

The entire "us vs. them" mentality of the left is disgusting. On the far right, the same is true. The labelling of "Red Staters" and "Blue Staters" is disgusting.

Guess I'm disgusting then, because this is exactly where I'm at. after four years of getting steamrolled by the right, W made it abundantly clear that we can expect four more years of the same.

If you don't have a voice then you aren't part of the equation, that's why we on the left are on the "other side."