Who are you voting for? (Presidential Election)

[NCPATRIOT]

Just a poll, you don't even have to comment!!


Of course, I am voting for Bush :D

[bighit26]

I picked none of the above because there is no reason in me voting at all. I live in New york State, about 5 hours from the s*&thole that is NYC. In the last election I talked to virtually hundreds of people who said they would NEVER VOTE FOR HILLARY!!!!! Needless to say, Hillary won 90+%. I have realized that until New York State is divided into 2 voting districts, my vote is absolutely worthless. However if I felt my vote mattered I'd vote for Bush.

[bideau]

Needless to say, I'm voting for Kerry. I hate Bush with every fiber of my being.

[jim_vh]

bush borrows too much money and got us into a quagmire of a war. i would vote for kerry but i didn't get registered in time afer moving, not that it makes a difference as I am a RI resident. and it is spelled NADIR !!

[BobKraftsCoozie]

As the Sports Guy Bill Simmons put it, "Voting in this election is like Dave Wandstedt choosing between Feeley and Fiedler."

I'm casting my vote for Tom Brady

[PA_PATS_FAN54*]

Originally posted by jim_vh
bush borrows too much money and got us into a quagmire of a war. i would vote for kerry but i didn't get registered in time afer moving, not that it makes a difference as I am a RI resident. and it is spelled NADIR !!
Holy **** ........ I agree with jim on voting for Kerry! WTF is wrong with me ...
:banghead:

[NCPATRIOT]

Originally posted by jim_vh
bush borrows too much money and got us into a quagmire of a war. i would vote for kerry but i didn't get registered in time afer moving, not that it makes a difference as I am a RI resident. and it is spelled NADIR !!

I realize I spelled it wrong but it's actually Nader ;)

[O_P_T]

Originally posted by bighit26
I picked none of the above because there is no reason in me voting at all.

Well I've always thought that if you don't vote, you loose you're b*tching license.

That license is what entitles you to complain about whoever's in any political office.

;)

[TrueBeliever]

Originally posted by bideau
Needless to say, I'm voting for Kerry. I hate Bush with every fiber of my being.

I couldn't have said it better myself, bid. Bush is the most incompetent fop I have ever seen, and how he got this far is beyond me.

Truth be told, I'm not that fond of Kerry, but I'd vote for Bill Parcells for Prez if he was on the Democratic ticket. BUSH MUST GO!!!

[#1Patsfan_chica]

I'm voting for Kerry but I don't really have anything against Bush.

Go Patriots and Red Sox!!!
:Patriots: :Redsox:

[RatedSteel]

Originally posted by TrueBeliever
I couldn't have said it better myself, bid. Bush is the most incompetent fop I have ever seen, and how he got this far is beyond me.

Truth be told, I'm not that fond of Kerry, but I'd vote for Bill Parcells for Prez if he was on the Democratic ticket. BUSH MUST GO!!!


This is the thinking that will make our great country into the bitch of the UN. Do you even KNOW Kerry's stance....on anything? Neither does he.

[TrueBeliever]

Originally posted by RatedSteel
This is the thinking that will make our great country into the bitch of the UN. Do you even KNOW Kerry's stance....on anything? Neither does he.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It amazes me how many people are willing to swallow whatever BS the Republicans serve them. Do you KNOW anything about what's really going on? I highly doubt it.

[bideau]

Originally posted by RatedSteel
This is the thinking that will make our great country into the bitch of the UN. Do you even KNOW Kerry's stance....on anything? Neither does he.

Actually, I do know what Kerry's stance is. He believes that we need a REAL reason to go to war. And invading an oil rich country that you mistakenly think is going to roll out the red carpet in order to line your pockets, your VP's pocket and those of your cronies is not a reason.

[TrueBeliever]

Originally posted by bideau
Actually, I do know what Kerry's stance is. He believes that we need a REAL reason to go to war. And invading an oil rich country that you mistakenly think is going to roll out the red carpet in order to line your pockets, your VP's pocket and those of your cronies is not a reason.

You said it, bid. Bushwhacker would like morons like our Steeler friend here, to believe that France, Germany and the other countries that wouldn't back us in invading Iraq are "anti-freedom" or some other horse crap like that. BULL****. All they wanted was some PROOF that Iraq was involved in 9/11 and/or intended to attack America with the WMD that didn't exist. Bushwhacker couldn't give them any proof because there WASN'T ANY, so he turned it around with this "anti-freedom" crap.

Unlike Bush, the countries that refused to help us invade Iraq believe that people's lives are more important than fattening pocketbooks.

[Undertaker #59]

Wow, this forum needs more vocal right-wingers. :)


For the record, I voted "none of the above" in this poll.

[TrueBeliever]

I don't know about more vocal right-wingers, but it would be nice to have some conversation besides the same old regurgitated crap that Bushwhacker and his clowns trot out everytime they get in front of a microphone.

[Spinal Tap]

Originally posted by bideau
Actually, I do know what Kerry's stance is. He believes that we need a REAL reason to go to war. And invading an oil rich country that you mistakenly think is going to roll out the red carpet in order to line your pockets, your VP's pocket and those of your cronies is not a reason.

No blood for oil.....................Haliburton!!!

How am I doing fellas?

[Spinal Tap]

Originally posted by TrueBeliever
You said it, bid. Bushwhacker would like morons like our Steeler friend here, to believe that France, Germany and the other countries that wouldn't back us in invading Iraq are "anti-freedom" or some other horse crap like that. BULL****. All they wanted was some PROOF that Iraq was involved in 9/11 and/or intended to attack America with the WMD that didn't exist. Bushwhacker couldn't give them any proof because there WASN'T ANY, so he turned it around with this "anti-freedom" crap.

Unlike Bush, the countries that refused to help us invade Iraq believe that people's lives are more important than fattening pocketbooks.

Actually True, I think their financial interests in Iraq far exceeded their "skepticism" of Iraq's weapons programs. You need to visit another site besides JohnKerry.com to get your facts.

[TrueBeliever]

1) I didn't get any of this from JohnKerry.com.

2) Financial interests??? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black...

[bideau]

Originally posted by Spinal Tap
No blood for oil.....................Haliburton!!!

How am I doing fellas?

Now you're getting it. It's about time you finally noticed.

[Spinal Tap]

Originally posted by bideau
Now you're getting it. It's about time you finally noticed.

Thanks man...........I knew it would only be a matter of time before my brain turned to mush and I fell into line with the rest of the liberals. Thank God for reality television.

[TrueBeliever]

This bickering is pointless. :banghead:

[Spinal Tap]

Originally posted by TrueBeliever
1) I didn't get any of this from JohnKerry.com.

2) Financial interests??? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black...

True, the difference between Bush's "financial interests" and Germany & France's financial interests is that Germany and France's actually existed before the war. Bush's so-called financial interest is based on the wild eyed premise that he went to war in order to steal oil.

I am not a blind bush supporter that believes he can do no wrong. He has made several mistakes during his presidency, including the war in Iraq. However, I am not about to vote for a man that can't decide which side he's on and wants to appease everyone everywhere (see John Kerry).

In my opinion, anyone who actually believes that Bush went to war in order to steal oil and line his own pockets is truly a stupid person. I cannot fathom what it takes to concoct such a theory. Call me crazy.

[TrueBeliever]

I don't believe Bush went there to line his own pockets. I believe that he was just looking for an excuse to invade Iraq, and when 9/11 happened he used that as his excuse. And then Cheney lined up his Halliburton buddies to get the big contract. You can't tell me this kind of insider dealing doesn't go on.

This stuff about Kerry being a "flip-flopper" is a MYTH. Further, people say "Well at least with Bush you know where he stands." Okay, but even when he's WRONG? Say I decide you are a bank robber, and then it turns out you are not. Is it better for me to say, "Oh, I'm sorry, you're not a bank robber after all" and admit I made a mistake, or keep pushing that you MUST be a bank robber but those durn liberals are covering it up?

I don't like Kerry that much myself, but I believe that anyone that thinks keeping Bush in office is the right way to go is truly a stupid person. Call me crazy. Or better yet, call me liberal.

[TrueBeliever]

I'm not going to argue about this anymore. I'm not going to change anyone's mind and no one's going to change mine.

[Spinal Tap]

Originally posted by TrueBeliever
I don't believe Bush went there to line his own pockets. I believe that he was just looking for an excuse to invade Iraq, and when 9/11 happened he used that as his excuse. And then Cheney lined up his Halliburton buddies to get the big contract. You can't tell me this kind of insider dealing doesn't go on.

This stuff about Kerry being a "flip-flopper" is a MYTH. Further, people say "Well at least with Bush you know where he stands." Okay, but even when he's WRONG? Say I decide you are a bank robber, and then it turns out you are not. Is it better for me to say, "Oh, I'm sorry, you're not a bank robber after all" and admit I made a mistake, or keep pushing that you MUST be a bank robber but those durn liberals are covering it up?

I don't like Kerry that much myself, but I believe that anyone that thinks keeping Bush in office is the right way to go is truly a stupid person. Call me crazy. Or better yet, call me liberal.

First off, I'll just call you a crazy liberal (is there any other kind?). Secondly, it looks like you just called half of the eligible voters in the United States stupid. Are you sure you wanna go down that road? Are you that anti-American that you would call over half of your countryment stupid???

[bideau]

Originally posted by Spinal Tap
First off, I'll just call you a crazy liberal (is there any other kind?). Secondly, it looks like you just called half of the eligible voters in the United States stupid. Are you sure you wanna go down that road? Are you that anti-American that you would call over half of your countryment stupid???

And you're calling the other half of the country stupid. What's the difference.

Typical conservative response. When they've got nothing else to add, they throw out "anti-American".

Let's just end this now. I'm a stupid liberal, you're a stupid conservative, we're all crazy, and hopefully, no matter the results, we'll still be around in four years to do it all over again.

[dchester]

Originally posted by bideau
And you're calling the other half of the country stupid. What's the difference.

Typical conservative response. When they've got nothing else to add, they throw out "anti-American".

Let's just end this now. I'm a stupid liberal, you're a stupid conservative, we're all crazy, and hopefully, no matter the results, we'll still be around in four years to do it all over again. Finally, some common ground. We're all stupid. This actually might explain why in a country so large, Bush and Kerry are the best we could come up with to choose between.
:D
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[Spinal Tap]

Originally posted by bideau
And you're calling the other half of the country stupid. What's the difference.

Typical conservative response. When they've got nothing else to add, they throw out "anti-American".

Let's just end this now. I'm a stupid liberal, you're a stupid conservative, we're all crazy, and hopefully, no matter the results, we'll still be around in four years to do it all over again.

perhaps you should re-read my response. i didn't call anyone that would vote for kerry "stupid". true did call anyone that would vote for bush "stupid". i called people stupid if they truly believed that bush invaded iraq so that he could steal all the oil and make some money. please get your facts straight before you attack me. thank you.

[Spinal Tap]

Originally posted by dchester
Finally, some common ground. We're all stupid. This actually might explain why in a country so large, Bush and Kerry are the best we could come up with to choose between.
:D

dchester, that is my exact sentiment about this whole election. i'm not thrilled with bush and i wish i had a better choice. unfortunately i do not have a better choice, because my only other choice is john kerry.

if the democrats could have produced a legitimate presidential candidate i probably would have voted for them.

it's a sad state of affairs in the democratic party when they cannot produce a candidate that can beat one of the most hated presidents in U.S. history. what does that tell you about the pool of candidates that democrats have to choose from?

[Flagg the Wanderer]

Originally posted by TrueBeliever
I don't believe Bush went there to line his own pockets. I believe that he was just looking for an excuse to invade Iraq, and when 9/11 happened he used that as his excuse. And then Cheney lined up his Halliburton buddies to get the big contract. You can't tell me this kind of insider dealing doesn't go on.
Of course it goes on. However, can you name another American Corporation capable of handling the contracts that Haliburton got? Hint: There aren't any. This is the sort of thing that Haliburton always got, no matter who was in office, because they can do it.

This stuff about Kerry being a "flip-flopper" is a MYTH. Eh? How so? I know that's the way it is being spun, but it doesn't seem to me to be correct.

Look, I know that Kerry got into some trouble with words, saying dumb-ass things like "I voted for the war before I voted against it." That's what he gets for trying to simplify a complex record into a soundbite. But it is true, for example, that he voted for the war, and then voted against funding it properly. The second vote was essentially political positioning on his part.
Further, people say "Well at least with Bush you know where he stands." Okay, but even when he's WRONG?I don't disagree - it goes back to the old saying about "better the devil you know." That saying is horsesh!t. If you have 2 options, and you KNOW that one of them is the Devil, you've likely got a better chance with option 2, since the world sucks less than 100% of the time.
Say I decide you are a bank robber, and then it turns out you are not. Is it better for me to say, "Oh, I'm sorry, you're not a bank robber after all" and admit I made a mistake, or keep pushing that you MUST be a bank robber but those durn liberals are covering it up?I haven't the foggiest idea what you're talking about.

I don't like Kerry that much myself, but I believe that anyone that thinks keeping Bush in office is the right way to go is truly a stupid person. Call me crazy. Or better yet, call me liberal. I'm not a huge fan of Bush, but I think he's a better choice than Kerry.

I just think it's pathetic that we are faced with a choice between a career politician who was born with a silver spoon, married a gold spoon, married a diamond spoon, has never worked a real day's work in his life, and seems to consider himself less an American than a "Citizen of the World," and a career failure who was born with a silver spoon, got in trouble repeatedly, and makes the United States look stupid on a regular basis by considering himself ONLY an American and to hell with what the world thinks.

If 9/11 hadn't occurred, I might go the other way on this. But since the UN has shown repeated antagonism to the United States including the inclination to attempt to influence our elections, I'm a little hesitant about electing someone who takes their opinions real seriously.

[Flagg the Wanderer]

Originally posted by Spinal Tap
dchester, that is my exact sentiment about this whole election. i'm not thrilled with bush and i wish i had a better choice. unfortunately i do not have a better choice, because my only other choice is john kerry. Your ONLY choice is John Kerry, hoss. You aren't exactly living in a battlegroud state, you know.

Now my opinion, on the other hand, actually matters. :D

[Spinal Tap]

Originally posted by Flagg Wanderer
Your ONLY choice is John Kerry, hoss. You aren't exactly living in a battlegroud state, you know.

Now my opinion, on the other hand, actually matters. :D

good point flagg. the democratic leanings of this state essentially make my vote for GWB worthless. i'm not going to vote in this election because i really don't think either man should be president. besides, if i did vote, i'd vote for bush and it would not matter because i live in mass. good point by you.

[Pats247]

Originally posted by Spinal Tap
good point flagg. the democratic leanings of this state essentially make my vote for GWB worthless. i'm not going to vote in this election because i really don't think either man should be president. besides, if i did vote, i'd vote for bush and it would not matter because i live in mass. good point by you.

If you don't vote because you don't like either guy (or Nader) that is fine - but your vote is important even if you don't live in a battleground state. Bush won the last election (or had it handed to him by the Supreme Court if you listen to the critics) but lost the popular vote. In my opinion, that immediately damaged his credibility. People looked at him as a guy who didn't even have more popular support than the guy he beat. I feel even if you are voting in a state that always votes democrat or republican it is important to vote for your candidate (if for no other reason than the popular vote is important from a credibility standpoint).

[bideau]

Originally posted by Spinal Tap
good point flagg. the democratic leanings of this state essentially make my vote for GWB worthless. i'm not going to vote in this election because i really don't think either man should be president. besides, if i did vote, i'd vote for bush and it would not matter because i live in mass. good point by you.

When I'm faced with a situation where I truly dislike all my choices, I take a ballot but leave the choices blank. I'm faced with that this year in my state rep race. I truly dislike both candidates and have told their reps who have called. I will leave that slot blank. It may seem insignificant, but blank votes do get tabulated and its a way for me to show my displeasure.