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spiderman
09-02-2004, 02:21 PM
Will it influence any undecided voters?

Annihilus
09-02-2004, 03:34 PM
I kind of doubt it. I think that speach was all about consolidating the party base. Time will tell if it was effective or not.

dchester
09-02-2004, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by Annihilus
I kind of doubt it. I think that speach was all about consolidating the party base. Time will tell if it was effective or not. I actually was wondering if it was more about payback, as Miller is retiring this year. It sure sounded like Miller has a very strong dislike of Kerry, which made me wonder if the two of them had some kind of a conflict in the past. He was blasting Kerry worse than the Republicans were. I was kind of surprised by the venom in some of his comments, although some of them were funny.
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spiderman
09-02-2004, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by dchester
I actually was wondering if it was more about payback, as Miller is retiring this year. It sure sounded like Miller has a very strong dislike of Kerry, which made me wonder if the two of them had some kind of a conflict in the past. He was blasting Kerry worse than the Republicans were. I was kind of surprised by the venom in some of his comments, although some of them were funny.

His speech in a way hit close to home with me. I'm the son of a legacy of Democrats, with STRONG union ties, (without getting into too much detail). Basically what I'm trying to say is that, I finally admitted to my father about 12 years ago that I was actually a registered Republican...and what happened next shocked me! Instead of going off on me, he started going off on the Democratic party. Saying things like, "The Tip O'Neil's are gone", "This party doesn't represent the working man anymore" etc. etc.

I guess my point is that regardless of all the smoke and mirrors (by both sides) that will be thrown out there regarding this speech, I have a strong feeling that there are many more out there like my father who are unhappy (to use a kind word) with the Democratic Party.

So for that reason, I can see your point about him being angry with Kerry, but I also think he is sincere in his unhappiness towards his party.

Ballbustah
09-02-2004, 04:09 PM
What makes you think the Republican party is the same?

They are both full of moderates....

jim_vh
09-07-2004, 03:17 AM
kind of funny to see the repubs back away (http://tinyurl.com/4kxln) from their own keynote speaker. the new republic tore up miller pretty good. (http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=express&s=cohn090204)


It was one of the most vile political speeches in recent American history, every bit as offensive as Pat Buchanan's infamous call in 1992 for "religious war" and, perhaps, a little more disturbing. Buchanan's speech, after all, was an assault on decency. Last night Miller declared war on democracy.