Anyone know anything about turtles and fish?

[Mr. Happy Sock]

I have had a 20 gallon turtle aquarium for just over a year with a adult and baby red-eared slider turtles in it. It's a great set up for them- giant rock on one end of the tank for them to lie on and bask under the lamp if they choose, and the rest of the tank to swim in. Well, I would put some feeder fish and goldfish in there every once in a while to give em as treats. Turns out that 4 of the Goldfish have avoided getting chomped over the last year and are now HUGE. These things started out as regular goldfish and are now a good 6 inches long each; way too big for the turtle to even think about messing with anymore (I actually think they nip at his shell). A few days ago I put 10 more feeder fish in there and they were gone within 48 hours (It used to take a good week or 2 for them to all get eaten) and I don't think the turtles ate any of them; these fish are like crazy-ass pirhanas.

While me and my children find it amusing to watch the interaction between the turtles and Goldfish, should I give some consideration to taking out the borderline Koi? Will they eventually gang up on the turtles and take them out? (Not that it would be a huge issue to replace an adult Red-eared slider turtle for a whopping 14.99 at Petco or a baby turtle at the local chinese food restaurant). Can they co-exist peacefully or are my kids going to be traumatized by finding a half-shell with turtle guts inside of it one morning being pecked at by the killer goldfish?

Cmon people throw me a frikkin bone here.

[Bushy T Beaver]

One time when I was a kid I caught a few small turtles and some baby sunfish at a local pond. Took them home, dumped them in an aquarium and those turtles went medieval--killed all the sunfish within 60 seconds. Since then I kill turtles whenever I can. Cuz they're freaking evil.

[bluepatsfan4ever]

Those fish are going to eat the turtles.

They will start to pick at them until their skin becomes raw and start to eat them. :harumph:

They are cute but when push comes to shove they are evil bastards :doh:

[bluepatsfan4ever]

One time when I was a kid I caught a few small turtles and some baby sunfish at a local pond. Took them home, dumped them in an aquarium and those turtles went medieval--killed all the sunfish within 60 seconds. Since then I kill turtles whenever I can. Cuz they're freaking evil.

True but consider that his feeder fish have avoided death and have grown large. :fire: Payback is a bitch >)

[Bushy T Beaver]

True but consider that his feeder fish have avoided death and have grown large. :fire: Payback is a bitch >)

Damned straight. My advice, take a hammer to those turtles. It's more than they deserve. If they ever get big enough, you're next.

[bluepatsfan4ever]

No, those are his kids pets.. He will need to seperate them to avoid trauma. :coffee:

:LOL:

[Bushy T Beaver]

I think you should arrange daily death matches between the turtles and fish. Either the kids will love it (cuz like adults, kids are messed up) or they'll be sickened by it (in which case the slaughter will provided some much needed toughening up). Regardless of the outcome tho, take a hammer to the turtles. It's more fun than water balloons.

[bluepatsfan4ever]

:LOL: Your evil but I have the first ticket to hell and I am not going to give it up too you! :fire:

No f*cking way!

[Bushy T Beaver]

:LOL: Your evil but I have the first ticket to hell and I am not going to give it up too you! :fire:

No f*cking way!

I'm cool w/ that. I'm not into the whole competition thing...to much wurk. I just hate turtles is all.

[Steve-o]

I vote that you throw in an Axolotl with them and see what happens.

<img src="http://curiousanimals.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/axolotl-20is-20the-20strangest-small.jpg">

[O_P_T]

I'd be more worried about water quality.

Four six inch long carp are awful big for a 20 gallon tank.

That could have an impact on the turtles faster than the fish eating them.

If you see the goldfish gulping air regularly, you'll know the tanks water has gone south.

[southcarolina]

Turtles have shells.


Fish taste good with tartar sauce.


Thats the extent of my knowlege on this subject.

[Pyxis]

I only own Betas. Ya know...the killer fighting fish.

[mikiemo83]

only what I learned watching nemo 100 times

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/6/68/300px-NemoTurtle.jpg

[Pyxis]

No, those are his kids pets.. He will need to seperate them to avoid trauma. :coffee:

:LOL:



:high pitched girly scream:

WTF? Are you nuts? Why did you post that dinosaur???????

[bluepatsfan4ever]

I only own Betas. Ya know...the killer fighting fish.


We had some Oscars when we lived in Houston.:heart: My granny used to get pissed when she saw me feed them feeder fish.. I then asked her if she ate fish and questioned her on what she thinks the fish in the ocean are living off. :wave:

[Pyxis]

We had some Oscars when we lived in Houston.:heart: My granny used to get pissed when she saw me feed them feeder fish.. I then asked her if she ate fish and questioned her on what she thinks the fish in the ocean are living off. :wave:


LOL....I had a huge Beta (pardon the pun) years ago that I fed feeder fish to. That guy was a monster. :Homer: It is in their nature to be cannibals.

[BY1401]

I had a snapping turtle once.

I named him Snappy.

[Dwight Schrute]

Buy a Snake-head.

Then we'll see who's boss!

[Pyxis]

I had a snapping turtle once.

I named him Snappy.


I have this very funny friend in New Orleans. You name the weird shit that can/will happen, his name is all over it.

So, he's driving along and sees turtle in the road. He stops and picks up the poor guy. He's going to drop him off 5 miles up the road in an area that the beast will be safe. One mile to go, beast is in the passenger seat of a Jeep Wrangler bolting at 70mph. Beast wakes up, emerges, looks at driver and did a 4.0 dash to the driver's seat and this guy's member.

Well, the guy and his member decided that saving wildlife was highly overrated. The charging snapping turtle was hurled from the driver's side window, at 70 mph.

I'm sure someone in a trailer nearby made soup out of him. It was Louisina, afterall.

[Bender]

I'm sure someone in a trailer nearby made soup out of him. It was Louisina, afterall.

Mmm turtle, and they come in their own cooking wrapper. Just toss them on a fire and in about an hour yum!

[O.Z.O.]

I vote that you throw in an Axolotl with them and see what happens.

<img src="http://curiousanimals.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/axolotl-20is-20the-20strangest-small.jpg">


wtf is that?

[tommysgirl]

wtf is that?
It's friggin scary as hell whatever it is! Hold me OZO!WTF?

[Undertaker #59]

wtf is that?
Neato:

The Axolotl (or ajolote) (Ambystoma mexicanum) is the best-known of the Mexican neotenic mole salamanders belonging to the Tiger Salamander complex. Larvae of this species fail to undergo metamorphosis, so the adults remain aquatic and gilled. The species originates from the lake underlying Mexico City. Axolotls are used extensively in scientific research due to their ability to regenerate most body parts, ease of breeding, and large embryos. They are kept as pets in the United States, Great Britain (under the spelling Axlotl), Australia, Japan (where they are sold under the name Wooper Rooper (ウーパールーパー, Ūpā Rūpā?)), and other countries.

Axolotls should not be confused with waterdogs, the larval stage of the closely related Tiger Salamanders (Ambystoma tigrinum and Ambystoma mavortium), widespread in much of North America, which also occasionally become neotenic, nor with mudpuppies (Necturus spp.), fully aquatic salamanders which are unrelated to the axolotl but which bear a superficial resemblance.

[Dwight Schrute]

Puh!

Just a snack for the aforementioned snakehead!

[O.Z.O.]

It's friggin scary as hell whatever it is! Hold me OZO!WTF?


:::holding tightly on to TG:::

I gotcha...



now who the hell is gonna protect me?

[BY1401]

wtf is that?

Whatever it is, it sure looks happy.

Maybe it just got done eating a small child.

[thomas144]

I know quite a bit about turtles and fish although I've never actually kept goldfish with turtles.

I wouldn't worry about the fish eating the turtles. Turtles are hard to eat, especially for a goldfish.

I'm not sure how healthy that aquarium sounds however. It's not clear to me how the turtles are surviving in a tank that must have a lot of water to house goldfish that are that big.

You did say 20 gallon tank right? how deep is the water? how many fish did you say you have? how big?

[O.Z.O.]

Puh!

Just a snack for the aforementioned snakehead!


YOU were the guy turning those things loose in that lake in Crofton!

[Dwight Schrute]

(In my best Schultz imitation)

"I know no-thing!"

[O.Z.O.]

Whatever it is, it sure looks happy.

Maybe it just got done eating a small child.


mmm

:shake:

[BY1401]

mmm

:shake:

Small child no good?

How about a hippie?

[O.Z.O.]

Small child no good?

How about a hippie?

much better

thing probably caught a contact buzz (well, if it had eaten jaric it would have)

[AllWorldTE]

I've always gotten along well w/fish and turtles but my wife has not. My son had a little turtle he named Godzilla when he was about four. My wife fed it a huge piece of hamburger (against my advice) one night and we had a turtle funeral the next day.

My youngest daughter brought home a pet frog from first grade a few years ago. The thing is pretty big now two years later. The old first grade teacher asked my wife to take one of the new (still small) frogs off her hands. My wife put the new frog in the tank with the older frog (again against my advice) because she thought they would make good "friends." Well, w/in an hour we were back to there being only one frog in the tank. She had to explain to my daughter what happened to the baby frog. :rolleyes:

[Claremonster]

Anyone know anything about turtles and fish?

The turtles are th eone with the hard shell. The other ones are the fishes.


Don't thank me, I'm just here to help.

[easycome_easygo]

I only own Betas. Ya know...the killer fighting fish.

I had a betta fishie. I named him Bobby Brown. One morning I woke up up and found him dead. Poor Bobby Brown. :(

[easycome_easygo]

:::holding tightly on to TG:::

I gotcha...



now who the hell is gonna protect me?

I will :heart:

[BY1401]

I had a fish once.

I didn't name it anything.

It was a fish.

[Pyxis]

, .I only own Betas. Ya know...the killer fighting fish.

I used to have six. Each one had a room and color scheme. Now, I just have Simon. He looks like a Siamese Cat,No joke.

I had a betta fishie. I named him Bobby Brown. One morning I woke up up and found him dead. Poor Bobby Brown. :(

Poor Bobby. May good rest is smelly little soul. :)

[easycome_easygo]

I had a fish once.

I didn't name it anything.

It was a fish.

You suck! :kisss:

[Spentcartridge]

I have had a 20 gallon turtle aquarium for just over a year with a adult and baby red-eared slider turtles in it. It's a great set up for them- giant rock on one end of the tank for them to lie on and bask under the lamp if they choose, and the rest of the tank to swim in. Well, I would put some feeder fish and goldfish in there every once in a while to give em as treats. Turns out that 4 of the Goldfish have avoided getting chomped over the last year and are now HUGE. These things started out as regular goldfish and are now a good 6 inches long each; way too big for the turtle to even think about messing with anymore (I actually think they nip at his shell). A few days ago I put 10 more feeder fish in there and they were gone within 48 hours (It used to take a good week or 2 for them to all get eaten) and I don't think the turtles ate any of them; these fish are like crazy-ass pirhanas.

While me and my children find it amusing to watch the interaction between the turtles and Goldfish, should I give some consideration to taking out the borderline Koi? Will they eventually gang up on the turtles and take them out? (Not that it would be a huge issue to replace an adult Red-eared slider turtle for a whopping 14.99 at Petco or a baby turtle at the local chinese food restaurant). Can they co-exist peacefully or are my kids going to be traumatized by finding a half-shell with turtle guts inside of it one morning being pecked at by the killer goldfish?

Cmon people throw me a frikkin bone here.

Turtles will hibernate in the muck under the frozen pond or lake during the winter. I find this fascinating that they can survive submerged like this.

[BY1401]

You suck! :kisss:

And I do, too. :heart:

[easycome_easygo]

And I do, too. :heart:

and you doodoo too? :heart:

[BY1401]

and you doodoo too? :heart:

Just last night, in fact. wuv

[easycome_easygo]

Just last night, in fact. wuv

Did you flush or leave a floater? :toast:

[BY1401]

Did you flush or leave a floater? :toast:

:blink:

Wait.

What are youuuuuuuu talking about?

[easycome_easygo]

:blink:

Wait.

What are youuuuuuuu talking about?

I'm talking about youuuuuuu.

[O_P_T]

Buy a Snake-head.

Then we'll see who's boss!

Snake head no question.

I had one in a 120 gallon tank that got to four feet long.

I used to buy him shiners at the local bait shop. When I got rid of him (that is a story worth its own thread), the shop complained that he was their best customer.

Very strange fish. My wife used to play Carpenters for him and he really liked it.

[SteelerFan87]

The goldfish shouldn't pose a threat to the turtles. That's why they have shells.

But if it's getting too crowded in there, you should probably move the fish to another tank.

[O.Z.O.]

I will :heart:

I should have known.

[SteelerFan87]

Found this while looking for my own fish thread.

Any update MHS? I'm assuming the goldfish killed themselves with their own filth by now, as usual?

Goldfish suck. They're big, dumb, brutish, and filthy. They're too stupid to be entertaining, they pick on other fish, and if they don't eat the other fish, they'll kill them (and themselves) by making the water in the aquarium so filthy that they get poisoned by their own excrement.
Re-reading the thread, I thought of a suggestion: take the goldfish, one at a time, out of the water and put them on the rocks. That way the turtles can eat them without having to take on all 4 of the monsters at once.

[Costanza]

I am wondering what happened, too.

Also, this thread is awesome.

[Pyxis]

LMFAO. One of the first threads I was ever in.ROFL

[Jaric]

Snake head no question.

I had one in a 120 gallon tank that got to four feet long.

I used to buy him shiners at the local bait shop. When I got rid of him (that is a story worth its own thread), the shop complained that he was their best customer.

Very strange fish. My wife used to play Carpenters for him and he really liked it.
Please tell me you didn't release it.

[BradyLady12]

...they taste delicious. :)

[Pyxis]

Please tell me you didn't release it.


I saw an episode of River Monsters on those bad boys. Did O P T cause the epidemic?:shrug:

[Jaric]

I saw an episode of River Monsters on those bad boys. Did O P T cause the epidemic?:shrug:
I'm guessing no. (I assume OPT knows better than that)

But that is one of the reasons why alot of lakes and rivers are now overrun with snake heads. It's also why fishermen are required to kill any they catch instead of releasing them.

They will quite literally take over an entire lake.

[foley11]

I'm guessing no. (I assume OPT knows better than that)

But that is one of the reasons why alot of lakes and rivers are now overrun with snake heads. It's also why fishermen are required to kill any they catch instead of releasing them.

They will quite literally take over an entire lake.

Word is they can take a full swing with a paddle and just stare back at you. Better bring the artillery.

Those bastids are coming for ya.

[Pyxis]

I'm guessing no. (I assume OPT knows better than that)

But that is one of the reasons why alot of lakes and rivers are now overrun with snake heads. It's also why fishermen are required to kill any they catch instead of releasing them.

They will quite literally take over an entire lake.


They are cannibals too! They caught and dissected one. Sure enough. There was a "teenager" in it's stomach.

Totally gross fish.

[Costanza]

WTF is a snake head?

[foley11]

WTF is a snake head?

They are the only species that will still be living after the oil slick covers the hemisphere.

[mikiemo83]

WTF is a snake head?no Idea

but fish heads YUM

<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/JKDtUzRIG6I&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/JKDtUzRIG6I&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

[Jaric]

WTF is a snake head?
they are in in ur lakes
eating ur bass.

[Jaric]

They are the only species that will still be living after the oil slick covers the hemisphere.
Also this.

[Jaric]

http://blogs.courierpostonline.com/fishhead/files/2008/12/snakeheadfish.jpg

[Costanza]

http://blogs.courierpostonline.com/fishhead/files/2008/12/snakeheadfish.jpg

I don't have those here.

[Pyxis]

I don't have those here.


You're lucky! On River Monsters they were driving a boat through infested water and those damn things were jumping at the boat. One of the bastids hit the host in the head.:eek:

[foley11]

I don't have those here.


Coming soon to California.......




http://www.pixdatabase.com/data/r/o/l/rolljack/medium/5154-examples-of-northern-snakehead-fish-s3.jpg

[Jaric]

I don't have those here yet.

Fixed. It's only a matter of time before some dumbass buys one because he thinks it looks tough but then quickly realizes it's too much trouble to take care of it, then dumps it into the river.

Then say goodbye to all your bass.

Oh, and they can move across land due to a swim bladder that acts like a primitive lung. Yes, that's right, they can live outside of the water

[Mr. Happy Sock]

Since this thread got kicked up again, I guess I'll give an update-

Since the original post, my daughter got a Guinea Pig and Dog as pets......She lost all interest in the turtles and fish. I kept cleaning out the tank, but who was I doing it for?

The turtle/fish tank got moved to the laundry room....And then this past spring we all took the turtles to the local pond and gave them a send off. The tank got moved to the backyard, and whenever we catch the occasional frog or toad- in the tank they go!

[mikiemo83]

Fixed. It's only a matter of time before some dumbass buys one because he thinks it looks tough but then quickly realizes it's too much trouble to take care of it, then dumps it into the river.

Then say goodbye to all your bass.

Oh, and they can move across land due to a swim bladder that acts like a primitive lung. Yes, that's right, they can live outside of the waterfor a couple of days as long as they stay moist

[Costanza]

Fixed. It's only a matter of time before some dumbass buys one because he thinks it looks tough but then quickly realizes it's too much trouble to take care of it, then dumps it into the river.

Then say goodbye to all your bass.

Oh, and they can move across land due to a swim bladder that acts like a primitive lung. Yes, that's right, they can live outside of the water

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/12-shotgun.jpg

[foley11]

for a couple of days as long as they stay moist

Heard about one that stole a guys car. Flipping guy left his keys in it overnight though. Served him right.

[Pyxis]

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/12-shotgun.jpg


I'd go with a semiautomatic at the very least.:coffee:

[Jaric]

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/12-shotgun.jpg
You better shoot the dumbass who intends to release it into the river system. Because after that, it's too late.

[Costanza]

You better shoot the dumbass who intends to release it into the river system. Because after that, it's too late.

Actually, I was gonna say, if a emm effer brought one here, he would get shot instead.

Son, don't mess around with our fishin'.

Also, if they eat trout as well, I might just take out his family. :soapbox:

[Jaric]

Actually, I was gonna say, if a emm effer brought one here, he would get shot instead.

Son, don't mess around with our fishin'.

Also, if they eat trout as well, I might just take out his family. :soapbox:
They are an apex predator that will pretty much take over a fresh water system. They spawn like locusts and have no natural predators. Even if they don't eat the trout themselves, they will eat everything the trout eats, effectively pushing them out.

On the bright side though, they are apparently very good eating.

[Costanza]

They are an apex predator that will pretty much take over a fresh water system. They spawn like locusts and have no natural predators. Even if they don't eat the trout themselves, they will eat everything the trout eats, effectively pushing them out.

On the bright side though, they are apparently very good eating.

So, just open season on their asses- they'd be wiped the eff out.

[Jaric]

So, just open season on their asses- they'd be wiped the eff out.
Who? The snakeheads? Good luck with that.

Their reproduction rate makes bunnies look like puritans.

Some places in florida have gone to such extremes that they electrocuted the entire water system (killing everything in it) to get rid of them (and then of course restock the lake)

[Costanza]

Who? The snakeheads? Good luck with that.

Their reproduction rate makes bunnies look like puritans.

Some places in florida have gone to such extremes that they electrocuted the entire water system (killing everything in it) to get rid of them (and then of course restock the lake)

You must not have too many rednecks where you live.

The ratio here is astounding. And awesome.

"It's coming right for us!!!"

[Jaric]

You must not have too many rednecks where you live.

The ratio here is astounding. And awesome.

"It's coming right for us!!!"
What comes before every trip to the emergency room?

"Hey y'all, watch this!"

[Costanza]

What comes before every trip to the emergency room?

"Hey y'all, watch this!"

Lol that you think they go to the ER.

Duct tape and beer fixes everything, dude.

[Jaric]

lol that you think they go to the er.

Duct tape and jim beam fixes everything, dude.fyp

[Costanza]

fyp

Correct.

Teh whisky pwns all.

FUN FACT- Jh is not that much of a whiskey fan. Too sweet. It's like the wine cooler of the hard alcohol world.

Apparently I am the only one that feels this way.

[Jaric]

Correct.

Teh whisky pwns all.

FUN FACT- Jh is not that much of a whiskey fan. Too sweet.
Jaric prefers teh sweeter spirits. The whiskeys, the rums. (And dear lord the southern comfort.)

Except Gin. Jaric does love him some Gin

[Costanza]

Jaric prefers teh sweeter spirits. The whiskeys, the rums. (And dear lord the southern comfort.)

Except Gin. Jaric does love him some Gin

The only Gin I have ever liked is Tanquerey. The other shit must've been cheap, cuz yuck. Or maybe I'm just gangsta? :shrug:

I like rum, it's actually my drink of choice. But only the silver stuff.

Brandy, no. Maybe in egg nog. We bought some months ago to cure our bacon with and there it still sits. I can do a whiskey sour, but my faves are the rum and white tequila. I love that shit.

[Jaric]

The only Gin I have ever liked is Tanquerey. The other shit must've been cheap, cuz yuck. Or maybe I'm just gangsta? :shrug:

I like rum, it's actually my drink of choice. But only the silver stuff.

Brandy, no. Maybe in egg nog. We bought some months ago to cure our bacon with and there it still sits. I can do a whiskey sour, but my faves are the rum and white tequila. I love that shit.
:Eason:

http://luekensliquors.com/store/zen-cart-v1.3.8a-full-fileset-12112007/images/bombay_sapphire_gr.jpg

[Costanza]

:Eason:

http://luekensliquors.com/store/zen-cart-v1.3.8a-full-fileset-12112007/images/bombay_sapphire_gr.jpg

You know, I've never had it.

I've not had Gin too often in my life.

The only time I ever had the Tanq was back in the day when there was about 10 of us in the back of a van with no seats headed to the city and we were passing around a fifth and some chronic, lol. I remember thinking it was good :huh: ROFL

[Jaric]

You know, I've never had it.

I've not had Gin too often in my life.

The only time I ever had the Tanq was back in the day when there was about 10 of us in the back of a van with no seats headed to the city and we were passing around a fifth and some chronic, lol. I remember thinking it was good :huh: ROFL
Don't drink Gin straight.

Gin & Tonic = best in life.

[Costanza]

Don't drink Gin straight.

Gin & Tonic = best in life.

I will try it eventually and report back. :thumb:

[Grumpy_Bottom]

The only Gin I have ever liked is Tanquerey. The other shit must've been cheap, cuz yuck. Or maybe I'm just gangsta? :shrug:

I like rum, it's actually my drink of choice. But only the silver stuff.

Brandy, no. Maybe in egg nog. We bought some months ago to cure our bacon with and there it still sits. I can do a whiskey sour, but my faves are the rum and white tequila. I love that shit.
This is the ONLY gin as far as I"m concerned, and it belongs in Martinis with just a touch of dry vermouth and a nice olive.

http://www.beveragewarehouse.com/images/products/3528.jpg

[Jaric]

That's some big gin there...

[Grumpy_Bottom]

Don't drink Gin straight.

Gin & Vermouth = best in life.
FYP :coffee:

[Grumpy_Bottom]

That's some big gin there...
I have to order it by the jug. :Party:

[Costanza]

That's some big gin there...

LMAO

I was gonna say it probably lasts for months

ROFL