Word Up! -- The Official PatriotsPlanet "Word of the Day"

In keeping with the fact that we are the most progressive and intelligent BBS this side of Buffalo we are now offering another value-added service to our members. I am pleased to unveil The Official PatriotsPlanet Word of the Day thread! Your gateway to a larger vocabulary!

While other boards are content to use the same words over and over again, merely changing the word-order, spelling, and capitalization, we will provide you new words that are guaranteed never to have been used with respect to football or the field of athletics. Words such as fecund, nefarious, gimcrack and avuncular. You will soon be impressing family, friends and co-workers with your new vocabulary.

This could happen:

Bob: "Hey Jim, you look great! Did you lose weight?"

Jim: "Negatory Bob, still corpulent (points to belly) but thanks! (cue tooth "glint")"

Studies have shown that regular use of the PatriotsPlanet Word of the Day thread will get you noticed. Women will find you more attractive and report greater satisfaction after sex (actually faking fewer orgasms.) If you suffer from hair loss you will be pleased to learn that regular use of the Word of the Day thread may actually lead to hair growth! Promotions will no longer pass you by. Your writing and speech will instantly appear more knowledgeable and truthful. Lets look at how this works:

(Cut to Suzie in a clinging leotard holding a chart and pointer)

Before: "The Patriots got beat bad."
After: "The New England Patriots got beat wicked bad."

(Voice-over comes from somewhere above and behind you)

The difference is clearly! Women love nothing more than a stupendously large vocabulary. Make your's bigger today!

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The Word of the Day must be used on a daily basis. Actual size may vary. Side effects include nausea, vomiting, difficulty sleeping, sexual side effects, nerdiness and a loss of friends.

(Any resemblance to people living or dead is entirely unintentional.)

The words will follow. Will you? I may at times introduce an entirely made up word just to see who is paying attention. The first person who challenges correctly will be so honored. But use care...as those who challenge and are wrong will bear the ignominy.

And now.....the word:

PatriotsPlanet Word of the Day for Wednesday January 29, 2003

sublunary \suhb-LOO-nuh-ree\, adjective:
Situated beneath the moon; hence, of or pertaining to this world; terrestrial; earthly.

In Shakespearean drama, both tragic and comic, the storms and calamities that shake the sublunary globe are reflections of turmoil in the hearts of men.
--Pico Iyer, "The Philippines Midsummer Night's Dream," Time, July 21, 1986

It's hard to deny that finding oneself in an airless wooden box six feet underground, listening to the wriggling approach of what Poe called "Conqueror Worm," would be one of the worst possible ways to end one's existence in this sublunary sphere.
--Gary Kamiya, "Buried alive!" Salon, March 7, 2001

[M]ay the lexicographer be derided, who being able to produce no example of a nation that has preserved their words and phrases from mutability, shall imagine that his dictionary can embalm his language, and secure it from corruption and decay, that it is in his power to change sublunary nature, and clear the world at once from folly, vanity, and affectation.
--Samuel Johnson, Preface to the Dictionary of the English Language


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Sublunary is from the Latin sublunaris, from sub, "under" + luna, "the moon."

Synonyms: earthly, mundane, telluric, terrene, terrestrial, worldly.

[Hawg73]

Hey, great idea for the offseason. By kickoff next september we can sound like friggin' english majors with an attitude. I like it. By then, we should be swimming in trolls and be able to dazzle them with fancy words. Is it OK to post more than one word a day? I don't want to squelch your idea.

My word is Absquatulate
to decamp; to suddenly take leave and squat elsewhere

Used in a sentence:

When members of a message board get really sick and tired of the BS they absquatulate to other boards, unless they decide to build their own.

Originally posted by Hawg73
Hey, great idea for the offseason. By kickoff next september we can sound like friggin' english majors with an attitude. I like it. By then, we should be swimming in trolls and be able to dazzle them with fancy words. Is it OK to post more than one word a day? I don't want to squelch your idea.

My word is Absquatulate
to decamp; to suddenly take leave and squat elsewhere

Abs-quato-lutely!

There is no reason there cannot be more than one word per day. I figured I would be the only one bookish-enough (now THERE'S a concept: "Well, I like her, I'm just not sure that she's bookish-enough..." Say it with a python-esque cockney accent. ) to even be interested. I was hoping that people would pay attention long enough that I could start to slip some bogus ones in and see if they catch on. I also think it will be fun to get people inserting The Word of the Day in their posts -- grammatically or otherwise. I don't want to subluminate the point but I think you get my meaning.

Absquatulate. Excellent. I was certain you were already playing me at my own game. Kind of a running, unstructured game of Scrabble. So let it begin....

[Hawg73]

Originally posted by FallingAlice
Umm...can we also add our own neologisms to this thread?

I like the idea, from a marketing standpoint, of some pasty-white researcher with the OED finding, one day, that the etymology of a particular word is traceable back to PatriotsPlanet.com.

Oh, and I guess my word of the day would be neologism.

I've got to run to hockey practice right now so I don't have any time to define.

So..uh..look it up?

So while you're kicking out blasts from the point I'm in here doing word searches. (sighs) allright, if it means that much to you.

neologism

A neologism (pronounced nee-AH-low-djism) is a newly invented word or term. Neologisms would seem to occur at a greater rate in cultures with rapidly changing technologies and with greater means for information dispersal.

A neology is, according to our Webster's, the use of a new word or the use of an existing word but given a new meaning. A second meaning given by Webster's for neologism is that of "a meaningless word coined by a psychotic."

Ok used in a sentence:

When accused of spamming, the troll was confused and insisted that he never touched the stuff, he didn't realize that the term was a neologism

[bruschifan1]

Great idea! Gosh.. I'm having Pats withdrawals..... thank God for PatriotsPlanet to insure that I continue to spent many, many hours online....;)

Here's my word for the day....

Rhu-DYE-lin:
one of the original thirteen colonies/ the smallest state in the Union/ the state between Cun-EH-dih-kit and Mass-uh-CHEW-sits

:D

[pookie]

Originally posted by bruschifan1
Rhu-DYE-lin:
one of the original thirteen colonies/ the smallest state in the Union/ the state between Cun-EH-dih-kit and Mass-uh-CHEW-sits

:D

Ah! Those are all good entries... Each it's own neologism. But for people who were born south of the Mason Dixon Line, then Roedilynn is part of New York and the Bay State is pronounced Massatusitts.

Originally posted by FallingAlice
Umm...can we also add our own neologisms to this thread?

I like the idea, from a marketing standpoint, of some pasty-white researcher with the OED finding, one day, that the etymology of a particular word is traceable back to PatriotsPlanet.com.

Oh, and I guess my word of the day would be neologism.

I've got to run to hockey practice right now so I don't have any time to define.

So..uh..look it up?

Assuming that if by neologism you are referring to the meaningless ramblings of a psychotic -- then yes of course, feel free to chime in Alice.... :D

[pookie]

Larrikin (lar' i kin) n. slang. A rough and rowdy person. adj. Disorderly ; rough.

I bet we can find a way to work larrikin into some of our Oakland Raider posts today kids!

Originally posted by FallingAlice
Does this definition remind you of anyone in particular? (BESIDES ME.) Surely you know who I'm talking about.

Or could I be misunderestimating you?

Often times there are a number of valid explanations for events. Ocham's Razor posits that the simplest explanation is most frequently correct. And yes, you were misunderestimating me. Nice attempt at transference though.

I never figured this topic to be such a success! Maybe I will have to start the "Inorganic Chemistry" thread after all...



Word of the Day for Thursday January 30, 2003

cavil \KAV-uhl\, intransitive verb:
To raise trivial or frivolous objections; to find fault without good reason.

transitive verb:
To raise trivial objections to.

noun:
A trivial or frivolous objection.

Insiders with their own strong views, after all, tend to cavil about competing ideas and stories they consider less than comprehensive.
--Laurence I. Barrett, "Dog-Bites-Dog," Time, October 30, 1989

It may seem churlish, amid the selection of so much glory, to cavil at a single omission, but I do think a great opportunity has been missed.
--Tom Rosenthal, "Rome sweet Rome," New Statesman, February 5, 2001

He was determined not to be diverted from his main pursuit by cavils or trifles.
--William Safire, Scandalmonger


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Cavil comes from Latin cavillari, "to jeer, to quibble," from cavilla, "scoffing."

Synonyms: quibble, carp, nitpick

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Something tells me this one might come in handy too.

And one more:


Word of the Late Afternoon for Thursday January 30, 2003

rodomontade \rod-uh-muhn-TADE; roh-duh-; -TAHD\, noun:
Vain boasting; empty bluster; pretentious, bragging speech; rant.

These are rejoinders born out of a need to deflate a balloon filled with what others view as pomposity or rodomontade.
--Corey Mesler, "Dispatch #1: Buying the Bookstore (The Early Days)," ForeWord, August 2000

The very absurdity of some of his later claims (inventors of jazz, originators of swing) . . . has made him an easy target in a way far beyond anything generated by that other (and in some ways quite similar) master of rodomontade, Jelly Roll Morton.
--Richard M. Sudhalter, Lost Chords

. . . the me-me-me rodomontade of macho rap [music].
--Nicholas Barber, "In the very bleak midwinter," Independent, January 7, 1996

[B]ut what he said -- that if any official came to his house to requisition his pistol, he'd better shoot straight -- was more rodomontade than a call to arms or hatred.
--William F. Buckley, Jr., "What does Clinton have in mind?" National Review, May 29, 1995


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Rodomontade comes from Italian rodomontada, from Rodomonte, a great yet boastful warrior king in Italian epics of the late 15th - early 16th centuries. At root the name means "roller-away of mountains," from the Italian dialect rodare, "to roll away" (from Latin rota, "wheel") + Italian monte, "mountain" (from Latin mons).

[jim_vh]

Originally posted by NoRespect
And now.....the word:

PatriotsPlanet Word of the Day for Wednesday January 29, 2003

sublunary \suhb-LOO-nuh-ree\, adjective:
Situated beneath the moon; hence, of or pertaining to this world; terrestrial; earthly.


BUSTED !!! (http://dictionary.reference.com/wordoftheday/archive/2003/01/)

Originally posted by jim_vh
BUSTED !!!

Well, yes Jim, you caught me. What was I thinking using an ONLINE DICTIONARY to find WORDS and their definitions? Silly me. I should have just made up my own words and definitions. You're absolutely right. That would be much better than providing actual words and actual definitions. I just assumed that people would prefer if they could actually use these words and NOT look like an idiot.

Since you're such a stickler for sources perhaps you should have used one yourself? Originally posted by jim_vh Re: plagarism!!

Is that how that word is spelled? While we are at it maybe we should make sure we understand the meaning of the word too. Might I suggest an online dictionary? As you pointed out, I referenced Dictionary.com. We'll use that one for the sake of irony. Here's how it is spelled:

plagiarism
\Pla"gia*rism\, n. [Cf. F. plagiarisme.] 1. The act or practice of plagiarizing.

2. That which (is*) plagiarized. (Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.)

(* sic -- even Websters can be wrong...)

Here's a more useful, practical definition:

plagiarism
n 1: a piece of writing that has been copied from someone else and is presented as being your own work 2: the act of plagiarizing; taking someone's words or ideas as if they were your own (Source: WordNet ® 1.6, © 1997 Princeton University)

Now that we know how to spell it, let's make sure we understand the meaning before we start using it in a cavalier fashion. This definition from the Princeton source is helpful because it pertains to how the word is actually used, not defining it recursively as Websters does.

"...taking someone's words or ideas as if they were your own."

That is the important part right there: "taking someone's words as if they were your own." Now granted if you really want to get technical, someone has to record the definitions of words -- hence the difference in the definitions themselves and why there is not only ONE English dictionary but many. Just as there are in fact many versions of “THE” Bible (and yet most people who quote the Bible never reference the version.)

However, LANGUAGE is a complicated issue and one could argue that language is no one’s property but a product of the people who have used it for generations. I would argue that those definitions that appear in any dictionary are a product of common usage. It is a chicken and egg argument but suffice to say that Webster did not define the word, usage defined the word. Even in a legal sense the author of dictionary does not have a copyright on the words, just the definitions. Hence in this context “taking someone's words” pertains not to the word itself but to the definition. The “word” itself belongs to no one and cannot be plagiarized without context.

I suppose by not citing my SOURCE (for example Princeton WordNet vs. Websters or Dictionary.com) then YES I did technically plagiarize the definitions. I do not make a habit of memorizing dictionaries because they serve a very useful purpose just as they are intended – as a reference.

However if you look at definition one (Princeton WordNET) you would see that INTENT plays a role in the definition – legally and also semantically. "A piece of writing that has been copied from someone else and is presented as being YOUR OWN WORK.” If I was writing a dictionary, and I used that verbatim in my dictionary then I would be guilty of plagiarism because my intent would clearly be to pass the work of someone else off as mine. Legally as it stands, I might be guilty of COPYRIGHT infringement. However, I am not publishing it commercially (this is a private website) so even that issue is debatable

I believe that most reasonable people would accept that my INTENT was to PROVIDE words and their definitions -- on a DAILY BASIS -- that are interesting and not in common usage for the purposes of ENTERTAINMENT. I think that most reasonable people would assume that a source -- such as a DICTIONARY would be involved in that process. I think if you polled the others who also have posted unusual words and definitions they would probably admit that they had consulted a dictionary to find them.

Intent is a very important part of this discussion. For instance, was it your INTENT to suggest that I was intentionally doing something DISHONEST by posting words and definitions without citing a source, or was it UNintentional on your part? Which is it? I would be VERY careful to-- shall we say – check your sources before going down that road Jim.

[Hawg73]

Whoa Momma! We got us a wordsmithin' controversy here tonight!!!!! Put the chilluns to bed sos they don't have to hear all the fancy arguin' an' such!!:p

Jim caught you fair and square NR - trying to sneak un-madeup words past us. The very nerve.

Jim - what is your problem? Do you just enjoy being argumentative just for recreation?

Originally posted by Hawg73
Jim caught you fair and square NR - trying to sneak un-madeup words past us. The very nerve.

Jim - what is your problem? Do you just enjoy being argumentative just for recreation?

ROFL I don't know why it is but there is something about talkin' all hillbilly an such in a thread such as this that just sets my sides to achin'. (For that you get a magnet.)

I was going to make up some made-up ones myself -- and pass them off as someone else's work to even the score -- :D -- I just didn't have a chance yet.

(He could be arguing in his spare time.)

I knew I shouldn't have started a Word-of-the-Day thread. There are two things that should be never discussed in polite circles: linguistics and etymology. Too controversial.

Those of you that have read the original post may remember that I suggested it as a game:
Originally posted by NoRespect
I may at times introduce an entirely made up word just to see who is paying attention. The first person who challenges correctly will be so honored. But use care...as those who challenge and are wrong will bear the ignominy.

Much in the way that in a game of Scrabble people will invariable try to slip in a word that is not genuine so the trick will remain to spot the ones that are not real. For this reason, I will continue to post words without citing a source. I am convinced that most people will not confuse this with plagiarism and that no copyrights are in fact being violated.

As a disclaimer: "All citations used in this thread are Reprinted Without Permission." Fair enough?

And now back to the regularly scheduled program.

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The Word of the Day for January 31, 2003 is.......

ultracrepidarian

adjective and noun, 1800-29: from Latin (‘ne sutor’) ‘ultra crepidam’ (let the cobbler not go) beyond his last: 1) adj. Going beyond one’s proper province; giving opinions on matters beyond one’s knowledge. 2) noun. An ultracrepidarian person; an ignorant presumptuous critic

ULTRACREPIDARIANISM noun, 1870-99: = ‘ultracrepidation’

ULTRACREPIDATE verb intransitive, 1800-29: venture beyond one’s scope

ULRACREPIDATION noun, 1800-29: the action or fact of criticizing ignorantly

Here is another.

sesquipedalian [n., adj. SES-kwi-puh-DAYL-yun]

A long word. Someone who uses long words, implies unnecessarily. The word describes itself.

"A sesquipedalian is someone who uses sesquipedalians."

As appropriate a word as there is for this thread.

[Austin]

Originally posted by NoRespect
Here is another.

sesquipedalian [n., adj. SES-kwi-puh-DAYL-yun]

A long word. Someone who uses long words, implies unnecessarily. The word describes itself.

"A sesquipedalian is someone who uses sesquipedalians."

As appropriate a word as there is for this thread.

...unless you want to include the word pedantic :D:D:D

--Kyle

[PatsButterfly]

kalopsia-
the delusion that things are more beautiful than they really are

February 1, 2003

cour·age (n.)

The state or quality of mind or spirit that enables one to face danger, fear, or vicissitudes with self-possession, confidence, and resolution; bravery.

[PatsButterfly]

trag·ic
Having the elements of tragedy; involving death, grief, or destruction: a tragic accident.

[jim_vh]

Originally posted by Hawg73
.....

Jim - what is your problem? Do you just enjoy being argumentative just for recreation?

my problem is with using someone elses work and presenting it as ones own. that is what no respect did, and i do not respect that.

i am all for a word of the day and saw some pretty good ones here. but i was dissapointed that a poobah here would use work from another site without attribution.

[Peg]

Uh-oh-- I sense a "vituperative dispatch" about to transpire between ol' Jim & NoRespect here... YIKES!!... What say ye?!... :)

[pookie]

Originally posted by jim_vh
my problem is with using someone elses work and presenting it as ones own. that is what no respect did, and i do not respect that.

i am all for a word of the day and saw some pretty good ones here. but i was dissapointed that a poobah here would use work from another site without attribution.

Jim,
Does it really matter where the word comes from??? The word that I posted on this thread also came from a dictionary (Websters to be exact). Should I be giving props to Websters and making disclaimers for my stupid word of the day because I pulled it out of the dictionary? This is for fun so why don't you lighten up chief?

As for "using someone else's work and presenting it as one's own"...... Phew it's a good thing you pointed out that NR got the word of the day from some online reference material because I thought for sure he had created a new word in the English language!

My word for the day:
Grouch

Originally posted by jim_vh
my problem is with using someone elses work and presenting it as ones own. that is what no respect did, and i do not respect that.

i am all for a word of the day and saw some pretty good ones here. but i was dissapointed that a poobah here would use work from another site without attribution.

Are you a complete idiot Jim? Really, give it up before you further humiliate yourself.

No, that is not what I did JIM which you would know if you had bothered to read or reply to one point that I made.

I have responded in far greater detail than your ONE WORD post warranted. Your "argument" lacks substance. You have nine total posts and have done little to distinguish yourself. Frankly you haven't demonstrated objections that are worthy of any more of my time.

And by the way JIM, I don't respect someone who comes here using the word "i" in a sentence without capitalizing it. I don't respect someone who doesn't know that a sentence should start with a capital letter. This isn't a teenie-bopper AOL chatroom.

You called me a "plagarist (sic)" JIM. Learn to spell it first. While you are at it learn to spell the word disappointed before coming to a thread about the English language and expressing your "dissapointment (sic)". Your post here -- ironically -- is a discredit to the topic of the thread and as such it thoroughly discredits itself.

Regards,
The "Poohbah".

The word for February 2, 2003 is:

untenable adj :

indefensible, unjustified, baseless.

ex: Jim's argument is untenable.


:D

The word for February 3, 2003 is:

yonic (adj):

resembling er, hmmmm....how shall I put this?

NOT phallic, yet oddly complimentary.

The word for February 4, 2003 is:

nanotechnology (n):

The science and technology of building electronic circuits and devices from single atoms and molecules.


See "Mature" nanotechnology:
http://www.patriotsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3266

[Hawg73]

Avatar - has a bunch of meanings. My favorites:

Longman's dictionary defines avatar as follows:

1) Incarnation of Vishnu, a Hindu deity;

2) An embodiment of a concept or philosophy


The Oxford dictionary tells us that avatar can mean:

1) A manifestation or presentation to the world (i.e., the avatar of mathematics)


The Random House dictionary describes an avatar as:

"An embodiment or concrete manifestation as of a principle attitude, way of life, or the like."


I included the sources so we don't get Jim_vh all pissed off again.

[Adam]

This entire f*cking thread is like dorks on steroids.

Originally posted by FallingAlice
And your point is?

His point would be to mock what he doesn't understand. Trolls should stay out of threads like this. It has a very funny way of making them look stupid....

[pookie]

Originally posted by FallingAlice
Baedeker

SYLLABICATION: Bae·de·ker
PRONUNCIATION: bd-kr
NOUN: A guidebook to countries or a country.
ETYMOLOGY: After the guidebooks published by Karl Baedeker.

Yo Alice!! I can understand half of the words that you typed. This is an improvement.

I think I's-a-gittin' smarter frum hanging round with you mensas(sp?).

[PatsButterfly]

dapocaginous -

mean-spirited

[Ballbustah]

Morass
an area of soft wet ground in which it is easy to get stuck

Yeah I know Ted introd it to my vocabulary years ago but I still like it.

[pookie]

Originally posted by Ballbustah
Morass
an area of soft wet ground in which it is easy to get stuck

Yeah I know Ted introd it to my vocabulary years ago but I still like it.

Hmmm. How would one pronounce this new word Ballbustah?

Phobias -- inspired by the alias of our very own administrator. So Phobia, which one of these is yours?


Coulrophobia: Fear of Clowns :bozo:

Pupaphobia: Fear of Puppets :jester:

Lachanophobia: Fear of vegetables. They are so scary...

Bogyphobia: Fear of the Bogeyman (really...)

Aulophobia: Fear of flutes

Arachibutyrophobia: Fear of peanut butter sticking to the roof of the mouth

Peladophobia: Fear of bald people :)

Octophobia: Fear of the number 8

Triskadekaphobia: Fear of the number 13 (apparently these are the only really frightening numbers.)

Caligynephobia or Venstraphobia: Fear of beautiful women

Medorthophobia: Fear of the erect penis

Logophobia: Fear of words

Hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia- Fear of long words (I searched for fear of irony but this was the best I could do.)

Germanophobia or Teutophobia: Fear of Germans or German culture

Lutraphobia: Fear of otters :D

Metrophobia: Fear of poetry...

Spacephobia: Fear of outer space

Papaphobia: Fear of the Pope (Any Catholics out there? If one Pope is frightening imagine TWO of the wizened little guys...)

Phobophobia: Fear of fear (that has to be awkward...)


(I found these on various sites and I didn't verify the authenticity of them. Most of the odd ones do come up if you simply do a search in google.)

[pookie]

Octophobia: Fear of the number 8

Triskadekaphobia: Fear of the number 13 (apparently these are the only really frightening numbers.)
I can't decide which one I have NR. Gimme 5 and I'll figure it out!



Medorthophobia: Fear of the erect penis
I'm awfully glad you put this up here. Unfortunately, I think I just figured out what's been wrong w/ Mrs Pookie all these years.



Papaphobia: Fear of the Pope (Any Catholics out there? If one Pope is frightening imagine TWO of the wizened little guys...)

I'm a recovering Catholic and I am very afraid of this man. The man is, for all intents and purposes, dead. For that matter, I get an ooky feeling around any man in a robe nowadays!! **Remember Father Porter? The whole damn walkin' talkin' Oprah Show began in my home town of North Attleboro with Father Porter.**

[Hawg73]

Originally posted by pookie
I can't decide which one I have NR. Gimme 5 and I'll figure it out!




I'm awfully glad you put this up here. Unfortunately, I think I just figured out what's been wrong w/ Mrs Pookie all these years.




I'm a recovering Catholic and I am very afraid of this man. The man is, for all intents and purposes, dead. For that matter, I get an ooky feeling around any man in a robe nowadays!! **Remember Father Porter? The whole damn walkin' talkin' Oprah Show began in my home town of North Attleboro with Father Porter.**

I remember some comic, I think Father Guido Sarducci said that if the pope has one more organ removed than he is technically no longer the pope. Poor old guy. I can't bear to listen to him any more. He is a mess. Last time I saw him he was twitching from head to toe and finally babbled something like:

"Jay-suss laffs you"

Can't they just do a salary cap cut and bring in the best available guy from Notre Dame or something? What is the Pope's cap number? Somebody call Miguel.

Ask DropKick the practical joker about his Father Porter prank.;)

[pookie]

Originally posted by Hawg73
Ask DropKick the practical joker about his Father Porter prank.;)

Ok DropKick..... Let's hear it!

For Pookie:

proclivity: one's natural tendency; predisposition

(pl. proclivities)



However, Solecious takes the cake with "Cromulent" -- we are in the presence of greatness.

Go to Solecious' post (http://www.patriotsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?s=&postid=24620&highlight=cromulant#post24620)

[Undertaker #59]

nonage \NON-ij; NOH-nij\, noun:
1. The time of life before a person becomes legally of age.
2. A period of youth or immaturity.

He was an adept in politics, even in his nonage, and an accomplished statesman before the laws regarded him as a man.
--Anne Hamilton, The Epics of the Ton

In these journals of Thoreau's nonage, now restored to us in their full text for the first time, we walk among the young Thoreau's thoughts much more often than in the fields and woods surrounding Concord.
--Leon Edel, "The Very Young Thoreau," New York Times, December 20, 1981

It occasionally puts children over men, and the conceits of nonage over wisdom and experience.
--Thomas Paine, The Rights of Man




Jim must have been in his nonage in this thread :p