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Box_O_Rocks
12-16-2007, 12:55 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug=jm-underclass121107&prov=yhoo&type=lgnsRating the juniors

By John Murphy, Yahoo! Sports
December 11, 2007

Over the next five weeks, NFL evaluators will continue to review the tapes of underclassmen who are at least threeyears removed from being high school seniors. True juniors and even a handful of red-shirt sophomores may apply to the advisory committee for their grades.

A group of selected NFL personnel directors are given the assignment of returning grades on these prospects. The prospects then receive an overall grade that takes into account the average of the scores received. It is not uncommon for several prospects at the same position to receive the same grade. For example, three running backs could receive second-round grades even though one of them would likely slide if all declared.

Overall, between 26 and 48 underclassmen have declared for the NFL draft during the past eight years (2000-2007).

I have evaluated the underclassmen who have confirmed or indicated that they plan to ask the NFL Advisory Committee for their current draft grade. I have added a grade per position.

QUARTERBACK (Grade C)

• Missouri junior Chase Daniel has not said if he will ask for his grade, but after finishing among the Heisman Trophy finalists and drawing comparisons to Drew Brees, he could look at his NFL options now.

• Clemson junior Cullen Harper has asked for his grade based on a fine first year as a starter. Most scouts believe Harper should return for his senior season and be a possible mid-to-late first-round pick a year from now.

• California junior Nate Longshore said he plans to return for his senior year. He was banged up midway through the season after initially making a positive impact on evaluators with his early success.

RUNNING BACK (Grade A)

• Arkansas junior Darren McFadden seems set to make the jump to the NFL. He could be a top-5 pick in the draft. McFadden has rare speed/athleticism for his size, but it is his big-play ability that has NFL evaluators excited.

• West Virginia junior Steve Slaton is a slashing style back who has broken many long runs, which is one of the reasons he has sent in his paperwork. If Slaton returns, he and fellow junior Pat White give the Mountaineers a shot at winning a national championship. Slaton seems more interested in knowing where he stands than actually declaring.

• Central Florida junior Kevin Smith could break Barry Sanders' record for rushing yards in a season, but seems torn between taking his game to the NFL or returning with a chance to win the Heisman. Scouts differ on if he has the breakaway speed to continue being a big-play threat in the NFL. He has proven to be a workhorse who does not fumble.

• Illinois junior Rashard Mendenhall feels like it might be in his family's best interest for him to explore the NFL. His younger brother, Walter, is in-line to replace him if he were to leave the Illini early. Many feel that his draft grade will never be higher.

• Oregon junior Jonathan Stewart is a bruising between-the-tackles runner who also has the speed to break runs to the outside. He has better hands than you would expect for a big man and also returned kickoffs. His strength comes from his lower-body as he explodes through defenders and first contact. He can run in the 4.45 range at 230-235 pounds. He could end up being the second most productive running back in the pros behind McFadden.

• Arkansas junior Felix Jones could be a Heisman candidate next year and a possible first-round draft pick. He has shared the position with McFadden, but has an explosive second gear and can power up to full speed in a few steps. Should McFadden declare, Jones could earn himself a few extra dollars by staying behind.

• Clemson junior James Davis has a solid combination of size, power and speed. He has great upper-body strength, runs tough between the holes and has a nose for the end zone. He is not a natural pass catcher and has not done much pass blocking.

• Rutgers junior Ray Rice was expecting to make a run at the Heisman, but came up short. He is a powerful runner for his size, shows good hands out of the backfield and flashes an extra gear of speed once he hits the open field. Rice would likely be given a grade in the second- to third-round range.

WIDE RECEIVER (Grade B)

• Michigan junior Mario Manningham had more than 1,000 yards receiving, 11 touchdowns and a 97-yard catch for a touchdown. Scouts are concerned that he has been known to be hard to coach and get along with. The Wolverines' coaching situation combined with the fact that both Chad Henne and Mike Hart are graduating could very well open the door for him to leave if he receives a first-round grade.

• California junior DeSean Jackson is a dangerous return man and receiver. He is not a finished product in terms of his receiving, but has extraordinary speed and vision in the open field. Jackson's perceived 4.3 40-time would allow him the chance to break into the top half of the first round. He could decide to stay since his QB is returning and the Bears ended on a bad slide.

• Oklahoma junior Malcolm Kelly could be the first receiver taken if he skips his senior year. Has great size (6-4, 218 pounds), big hands and a long stride. He has big- play ability, catches well and runs tight routes. Kelly scored 19 touchdowns over the past two years. Some scouts believe he has first-round skills, but disappears for stretches of games.

• South Carolina junior Kenny McKinley is a highly productive two-way threat who has gained more than 1,800 yards the past two years while also being an exciting punt returner. He is viewed as a possible slot receiver with impressive speed and quickness. He is also elusive after the catch. He lacks the size of others in this group, and has stated he will only declare if coach Steve Spurrier leaves or if he receives a first-round grade.

• Washington State junior Brandon Gibson led the Pac-10 with 1,180 yards and scored nine touchdowns, averaging 18 yards per catch. He intends to return to school, but will check on his draft status to know what he should work on.

• Indiana junior James Hardy led the Big Ten with 16 receiving touchdowns. At 6-6, 210 pounds, he has ideal size. Should earn close to a first-round grade if he opts into this year's draft.

• Hawaii junior Davone Bess became the favorite target of quarterback Colt Brennan over the past two years. He's hard to evaluate because of the system the Warriors employ, but he shows good run-after-catch skills and runs very good routes. He is not a great deep threat.

• Vanderbilt junior Earl Bennett has set school records with 236 career catches and 2,852 yards. He has also returned kickoffs and punts. He has good size, runs crisp routes and shows the ability to make the tough catch in the middle of the field. Will likely to return to school. Scouts expect him to run good, but not great 40-times.

• Kentucky junior Dicky Lyons Jr. is a tough, precise route runner who makes the underneath grabs and shows the quickness to elude defenders. He had his best games against Florida and Mississippi State, but could use next season since he would be the school's top receiving option.

• Michigan State junior Devin Thomas is a junior college transfer who led the Big Ten with 1,226 yards and 28.1 yards per kickoff return. He has good size (6-2, 218 pounds) to go along with presumed mid-4.4 speed. He could end up being a first-three-round selection.

• El Camino CC (Calif.) Corey Surrency might lack the grades to continue with his college career. LSU and Florida State have recruited him even after he gave a verbal commitment to Colorado. He is about 6-5, 215 pounds with 40 times in the high 4.4s. He averaged more than 20 yards per catch last season. Schools expect a final decision on his academic status soon.

• Pearl River CC (Miss.) Roger Frazier was a standout pass catcher who lacks the grades necessary to move to a four-year program. Very fast, fluid strider, he is thought of as a vertical threat by Arkansas, Kansas State and South Florida.

TIGHT END: (Grade B-)

• Florida junior Corey Ingram has posted big numbers. He lacks ideal size (6-4, 235-240 pounds), so he is not a great in-line blocker on run downs. His athleticism (4.5 speed) and receiving skills could earn him a first-day grade. Averaged roughly 15 yards per catch.

• Texas A&M junior Marcellus Bennett has great natural size (6-6, 260 pounds) and more than 100 career receptions. He has improved over each of the past two seasons, especially as a blocker, but lacks consistency. The hiring of former NFL head coach Mike Sherman might help keep him with the Aggies.

• Missouri junior Chase Coffman is a second generation tight end; his father, Paul, played with Green Bay and Kansas City. He had 51 catches for 523 yards and seven touchdowns this past season. His ability to make plays down the field, block at the line of scrimmage and a nasty streak on special teams makes him the total package. Unless he gets a first-round grade, he will likely return to the Tigers.

• Wisconsin junior Travis Beckum has the look of a future 50-to-60 catch standout in a West Coast-style offense in the NFL. He moves very well for his size (250 pounds), is a fluid athlete and improving blocker. He has requested his current NFL grade, but has told people around campus that he plans to return.

OFFENSIVE LINE (Grade A-)

• Ohio State junior tackle Alex Boone might be at the top of this year's draft class thanks to his size (6-8, 325 pounds), footwork and work ethic. He does as much film study as he does weight room or classroom work. He has played on both sides of the line, but has settled into the left tackle position the past two years. Some scouts believe he needs to work on finishing and bringing more of a nasty streak.

• Boise State junior tackle Ryan Clady is one of the nation's top blockers and should warrant a first-round grade should he leave early. He promised his mother that he would complete his degree before moving to the NFL. His promise might be hard to keep as the 6-6, 319-pounder could be among the top-20 picks.

• Mississippi junior offensive tackle Michael Oher has all the tools, but could use next season to add some strength to his game and become more of a finisher. Now that Houston Nutt is the coach, Oher plans to wait for the 2009 draft.

• Oklahoma junior tackle Phil Loadholt has gone from junior college transfer to potential high NFL draft choice. He is massively built with the footwork and athleticism to play the all-important left tackle position at the next level. He has drawn too many penalties this season and would improve his grade by remaining in school.

• Stanford junior offensive lineman Alex Fletcher has the ability to play both center and guard at the NFL level. He gets the job done with fine technique, leverage and footwork. He has been timed in the 5.1 range at 6-3, 310 pounds. Fletcher would like to find out how much room he has to improve his grade over the next year. He will have completed his degree by the end of this semester.

• Oklahoma junior guard Duke Robinson was one of the most dominating interior linemen in the country. He has great size (6-5, 335 pounds), delivers a powerful punch off the snap, but also has the type of mean streak that the NFL craves. Robinson should receive a fairly high grade, but I expect him to return to the Sooners.

• Alabama junior center Antoine Caldwell is capable of playing both guard and the pivot spot. He moves well for his size, gets out of his stance quickly and shows very good power in his initial punch. Might lack the pure bulk to handle some of the larger nose tackles in the NFL, but his movement skills and intangibles make him an attractive package.

• Washington senior center Juan Garcia has received an extra year of eligibility thanks to past medical issues that cost him to miss time between 2003 and 2005. He has started the past two years, but announced at the team's recent banquet that he intended to make use of his extra season of eligibility and return to the Huskies.

Box_O_Rocks
12-16-2007, 01:36 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug=jm-juniord121407&prov=yhoo&type=lgnsRating junior defenders

By John Murphy, Yahoo! Sports
December 14, 2007

With a flood of players sending in paperwork requesting the NFL Advisory Committee to evaluate their current draft grade, here is part two of our look at underclassmen, focusing on defense.

I have rated those who have confirmed or indicated they plan to ask for their grade. I have added a grade per position.

DEFENSIVE LINE (Grade B+)

• Ohio State DE/OLB Vernon Gholston has first-round talent. He has a great first step off the ball, makes good use of his hands and shows a burst of closing speed that is equal to that of the top pass rushers in the NFL. He had 13 sacks this season and had a marquee effort against touted Michigan offensive tackle Jake Long. Gholston was recruited as a linebacker, so at just under 6-foot-4, 260 pounds, many 3-4 teams see him as a standup DE or OLB. He could be among the top 10 picks should he declare.

• Miami DE Calais Campbell has a near perfect body type for the NFL with long arms and a big frame. He is not a finished product and has trouble shedding blocks. He tends to look at his man rather than the ball, so he can be slow to react at times. He could use another season of development.

• Florida DE Derrick Harvey had 6.5 sacks on the season and 18.5 over his three-year career. He is a well-built athlete with the chance to be evaluated as either 4-3 DE or 3-4 OLB.

• Florida State redshirt sophomore DE Everette Brown could become one of this year's fastest risers if he declares. He had 6.5 sacks this season. At 6-4, 255 pounds he has been timed in the high 4.5s to 4.6 in the 40.

• Clemson DE Phillip Merling has filled out to nearly 6-5, 275 pounds. He attacks the line of scrimmage, but also shows better balance, quickness and agility than most players his size. He is capable of dropping back into zone coverage off the snap, gets into position against the run and has a sturdy build to play either DE spot. Has said he is leaning toward returning to college. He could be a top-20 choice if he declares.

• Miami DE Eric Moncur is an undersized but aggressive up-field pass rusher. He works on his game in the film room and does the little things to help him play much bigger and faster than his size (6-2, 255 pounds). He would have to impress in workouts to see his grade improve.

• LSU DLs Marlon Favorite and Tyson Jackson are weighing their draft options. Favorite is a big interior defender who shows good feet and quickness. He can create issues for teams that don't double-team him. He runs in the 4.9 range at 305 pounds. Jackson is a top-tier defensive end who can play either side. His 6-5, 290-pound frame allows him to take on blockers, but he also shows a burst and quickness that helps him collapse the pocket.

• Florida State DT Letroy Guion has the ability to play both 4-3 tackle or end in a 4-3 or 3-4. He has good quickness and uses his hands well to shed blockers. Could do a better job of finding the ball off the snap at times. Could receive a late-first round grade should he request one.

• Colorado DT George Hypolite suffered a torn hamstring against Nebraska. He is unlikely to play in the Buffaloes' bowl game and will likely return for his senior year. He is 6-1, 290 pounds and runs in the 4.9 range.

LINEBACKER (Grade B+)

• Ohio State's James Laurinaitis has proven he can be a durable, productive leader at either inside or strong-side linebacker. He has good enough cover skills to remain on the field at all times, but is more of a straight-line speed guy. Is a vocal team leader.

• USC's Rey Maualuga is capable of playing inside or strong-side at the next level thanks to his smarts, aggression and great natural instincts.

• Oklahoma's Curtis Lofton decided to see how high of a grade he could get after leading the Sooners with 142 tackles. His decision will come down to whether or not he receives a first-round grade.

• Maryland's Erin Henderson is the younger brother of the Minnesota Vikings' E.J. Henderson. Erin has battled with a knee injury. He recorded 122 tackles as a junior, but I see the 6-2, 245-pounder being more of a secondary level defender at the NFL level which would equal more of a late second- to third-round grade.

• Tennessee's Jerrod Mayo is a beast of an inside linebacker with the instincts, size and range to make plays. Mayo is a sideline-to-sideline defender who runs very well and shows the pass coverage skills to be an every-down inside linebacker.

• Florida State's Geno Hayes is a very fast, fluid athlete who can make plays in pursuit. Hayes needs to show maturity.

• Ohio State's Marcus Freeman will run in the 4.6 range at 6-2, 242 pounds. He shows explosiveness running to the ball or when asked to drop back into pass coverage.

DEFENSIVE BACK (Grade B-)

• Ohio State CB Malcolm Jenkins will not turn 20 until Dec. 20. He has above-average size (6-1, 208) and has shown the hands to create turnovers, but does not always play with enough aggressiveness. Will allow catches in front of him and gets a little too tall in his backpedal, losing steps when he plants and comes up to attack. He is a fluid athlete, but would be wise to stay in school.

• Wisconsin CB Jack Ikegwuonu shows ample ball skills and makes more tackles than the average cover cornerback. Another year of experience/maturity could lead him to being the top defensive back in the 2009 draft.

• Virginia Tech CB Brandon Flowers is a very physical defender who does not mind contact, can make plays while the ball is in the air and also brings the experience of playing in big games. He has the size/speed to earn a first-day grade.

• Kansas CB Aqib Talib is a terrific two-way defender who led the Big 12 with 17 pass breakups. He had four interceptions and 61 tackles. He also scored four touchdowns on eight receptions at wide receiver. He has the best size (6-2, 205 pounds) of the junior defenders. Scouts believe he may not be a burner in terms of his 40-times and is more of a drag-down tackler.

• Penn State CB Justin King has the size, speed and cover skills to be a shut-down defender in the NFL level. He is weighing his options.

• Virginia Tech CB Macho Harris is a converted running back who can make tackles in the open field and has shown improvement in all areas.

• San Jose State CB Christopher Owens does not have the same size as his senior teammate Dwight Lowery, but makes up for it with quickness and ball skills. The 5-10, 170-pounder led the team with six interceptions and has 12 career picks.

• Boise State CB Orlando Scandrick is a speedy defender who has improved his covers skills, showing improved technique. He is just under 6-0, 190 pounds and has mid-4.4 range speed.

• West Liberty State CB Darren Banks has recorded double-digit interceptions in each of the past two seasons. He is also a dangerous punt returner who possesses 4.4-range speed to go along with a near 40-inch vertical.

• Miami S Kenny Phillips plans to declare for the draft. He finished with 95 tackles and created five turnovers this season. At 6-2, 211 pounds he has ideal size for the NFL and the ability to play either safety spot. He expects to run in the 4.45-4.50 range.

• N.C. State S DaJuan Morgan has strong balls skills, range and open-field tackling. He is just over 6-1, 205 pounds, has 4.45-range speed and hits with authority. He led the Wolfpack with 97 tackles. He is an aggressive, versatile defender who could earn a first-round grade if he returns for his senior season.

• Oklahoma DB Reggie Smith can play anywhere in the secondary and return punts, but was injured in the Big 12 championship game. He has a rare combination of size, speed and ball skills, so a healthy return to the field in 2008 could make him one of the top-rated defenders for 2009.

• Clemson S Michael Hamlin is always around the ball and has 4.5 range speed. He has good ball skills, but is a little stiff if asked to play too much man coverage. He has shown the ability to create turnovers and plays with a lot of emotion/intensity. Suffered a broken foot.

• UAB S Will Dunbar played the majority of this season with an injured left knee. Still, he averaged more than 12 tackles per game. He shows good instincts and breaks on the ball hard while also taking the proper angle to the ball carrier. He would be wise to return to school and work on his cover skills.

SPECIAL TEAMS (Grade C)

• Kansas Wesleyan K/PTroy Van Blarcom is a USC transfer who left the Trojans following academic problems. He had served two years as USC's kickoff specialist and long field goal kicker. At 6-3, 210 pounds he has good natural leg strength.

Box_O_Rocks
01-04-2008, 10:29 PM
http://www.gbnreport.com/index.htmJanuary 3
(7:00 PM): Florida duet becomes trio... Make it three underclassmen from the state of Florida to enter the upcoming draft as Florida junior DE Derrick Harvey has informed the Gators that he will forgo his senior season and entering the 2008 draft where he is expected to be a first-round pick.
(6:30 PM): FLA duo declare for draft…. Pretty much as expected, Miami junior DE Calais Campbell has announced that he will forgo his senior season and enter the 2008 draft. The 6-8, 280-pound Campbell is the second Hurricane to announce he will leave early joining junior safety Kenny Phillips. Meanwhile, according to John Murphy of Yahoo Sports Florida junior TE Cornelius Ingram has also decided to forego his senior year with the Gators and enter the 2008 draft. The 6-4, 235-pound Ingram finished fourth on the team with 34 receptions for 508 yards and seven touchdowns. Ingram has reportedly been timed in the sub-4.5 range in the 40-yard dash and has the ability to line up in a number of positions on the field including H-Back, slot and even wideout.
(4:00 PM): Orange junior WR goes pro... According to John Murphy of Yahoo Sports Syracuse WR Taj Smith, who potentially had a medical red-shirt year to use, has opted to enter the 2008 draft rather than returning for a fifth year in college. A former JC transfer who has had is share of injury problems in the past, averaged 18.7 tards per catch on 44 receptions. Smith is listed at 6-1, 187 and has been timed as fast as 4.42 in the 40-yard dash.
(1:00 PM): Cavs AA OG enters draft… Virginia junior OG Branden Albert is the latest collegiate underclassmen to announce that he will forgo his final season of eligibility and enter the 2008 draft. The 6-6, 310-pound Albert was a third-team All-American this fall.

mgoblue101415
01-05-2008, 12:36 AM
Originally posted by Box_O_Rocks on 12-16-2007 at 12:55 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug=jm-underclass121107&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

• Michigan State junior Devin Thomas is a junior college transfer who led the Big Ten with 1,226 yards and 28.1 yards per kickoff return. He has good size (6-2, 218 pounds) to go along with presumed mid-4.4 speed. He could end up being a first-three-round selection.





I like Devin, but there's a big ol' question mark with him only having one year of playing time in a real program.

He's definitely a hell of a KR, and he's shown that he can play WR productively, not to mention the guy is a damn big WR, but with only one year of real tape on him..... :shrug:

What ever team takes him, I think he'll end up following the Hester/Welker/Steve Smith route. I can see him being used predomintely as a KR to begin with, maybe the 1st season or 2, then slowly be integrated into the passing game, depending on what the coaches see in him.

But he's definitely someone to keep an eye on.

Box_O_Rocks
01-05-2008, 12:53 AM
Originally posted by mgoblue101415 on 01-05-2008 at 01:36 AM
I like Devin, but there's a big ol' question mark with him only having one year of playing time in a real program.

He's definitely a hell of a KR, and he's shown that he can play WR productively, not to mention the guy is a damn big WR, but with only one year of real tape on him..... :shrug:

What ever team takes him, I think he'll end up following the Hester/Welker/Steve Smith route. I can see him being used predomintely as a KR to begin with, maybe the 1st season or 2, then slowly be integrated into the passing game, depending on what the coaches see in him.

But he's definitely someone to keep an eye on. I recall him making an impression in their bowl game, but I didn't put much effort into watching his play since he was both a junior and a WR.

mgoblue101415
01-05-2008, 01:01 AM
Originally posted by Box_O_Rocks on 01-05-2008 at 12:53 AM
I recall him making an impression in their bowl game, but I didn't put much effort into watching his play since he was both a junior and a WR.


Actually, compared to the rest of the season Thomas looked like crap against BC.

And he has offically declared for the draft. Course, the Pats don't need a WR. Although, with the rumor about Bethel... The Pats could grab Thomas as a KR. On the other hand... I'm not sure BB/Pioli would take a KR in the 2nd round, which is probably where Thomas will go. Course they did take Bethel in the 2nd so who knows. :shrug:

chef
01-05-2008, 04:49 AM
I love davone bess.
didn't have a good bowl, but this guy might be a wes wekler

Box_O_Rocks
01-05-2008, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by mgoblue101415 on 01-05-2008 at 02:01 AM
Actually, compared to the rest of the season Thomas looked like crap against BC.

And he has offically declared for the draft. Course, the Pats don't need a WR. Although, with the rumor about Bethel... The Pats could grab Thomas as a KR. On the other hand... I'm not sure BB/Pioli would take a KR in the 2nd round, which is probably where Thomas will go. Course they did take Bethel in the 2nd so who knows. :shrug: If you assume Asante is history, that puts Hobbs in the #1 CB slot; I'd say KR is on the table to upgrade Special Teams since Hobbs will be too valuable to use consistently on returns. Does Thomas also return punts? If they go after a returner, I'd expect the Pats to want someone who can provide double the value in the return game. Not to mention Thomas' size and speed might make him a Kelley Washington-style gunner.

Box_O_Rocks
01-05-2008, 01:47 PM
He's not coming out, but here's one to watch next season:

Jr. WR Eric Morris @ Texas Tech - he plays the slot and was drawing comparisons to Welker on his PR style, he's also Welker size...

mgoblue101415
01-05-2008, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by Box_O_Rocks on 01-05-2008 at 10:43 AM
If you assume Asante is history, that puts Hobbs in the #1 CB slot; I'd say KR is on the table to upgrade Special Teams since Hobbs will be too valuable to use consistently on returns. Does Thomas also return punts? If they go after a returner, I'd expect the Pats to want someone who can provide double the value in the return game. Not to mention Thomas' size and speed might make him a Kelley Washington-style gunner.

No, not really a PR. He's handled a handful, and not very productively compared to his +1000 both as a WR & KR. So as a KR he's solid, but as a PR.... I'm not sure if MSU didn't use him as one because they were set, or if he didn't show them enough to use him as one :shrug:

Box_O_Rocks
01-07-2008, 05:47 PM
Okay then, Asante's old alma mater has a replacement coming out early in the draft: http://www.cfnews13.com/Sports/CentralFloridaSportsReport/2008/1/6/kevin_smith_will_enter_nfl_draft.htmlThat's not the only bad news for the Knights. News 13 has also learned cornerback Joe Burnett will also leave the team for a shot at the NFL.http://ucfathletics.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/burnett_joe00.html
Joe Burnett
Class: Junior
Hometown: Eustis, Fla.
High School: Eustis
Height / Weight: 5-11 / 183
Position: Cornerback
Eligibility: Junior

mgo: Talib is also coming out per Draft Daddy and GBNreport. :thumb: