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Wandering Athol
08-26-2006, 06:40 PM
:D

Just got back recently from a month of total isolation - aka, I was absent any real means of acquiring Patriots-related news. Taking a quick gander at the threads whilst I've been away, I summarize the Pats have some pontential serious problems at the WR and LB positions....in other words, absolutely nothing has changed. ;)

Other than that: Gorin's out :) , Seau's in :huh: , Bruschi's hurt :(, and Harrison's back :toast: . Anything else I'm missing?

Not much talk on the board about there being a game tonight. In fact, if I hadn't of checked the Pats' website, I might've been heading out to a bar tomorrow afternoon instead of tonight, much to my chagrin.

Since this is the first preseason game I'll actually have the opportunity to watch, I figured I'd start a game thread to get everyone's opinion on what to watch for tonight.

Down here in 'Skins tribal lands, the feeling is that this is the year Gibbs leads the team back to the Happy Hunting Grounds of the Super Bowl....but then again, that's pretty much the consensus every year 'round these parts.

Here's a preview of the game from the Redskins' point of view:

http://www.redskins.com/gameday/
The Redskins travel to New England this week to take on the Patriots on Saturday night, Aug. 26, at Gillette Stadium. Kickoff is scheduled for 8 p.m. ET.

The game will be broadcast locally on WUSA-TV 9 (CBS affiliate), Comcast SportsNet and Triple X ESPN Radio (94.3, 92.7 FM and 730 AM).

How long will the Redskins and Patriots play their starters? The third preseason game is typically when teams want to get a close look at their starting unit for at least one quarter of action.

For Washington, in two preseason games, most starters have played just 26 snaps total.

The Redskins have been less than impressive in preseason, losing twice and being outscored 46-17 in two games. Head coach Joe Gibbs was upset with the effort of some players in last Saturday's 27-14 loss to the New York Jets at FedExField.

"Obviously, we need to step up and play smooth against New England," Gibbs said. "Our pass protection has been pretty good--we'd like to continue that. We'd like to make some yards rushing. We'll be up against a real stout outfit. It'll be a real test for us."

Mark Brunell is scheduled to start at quarterback and he will be followed by Todd Collins and Jason Campbell. Brunell was held out of practice on Thursday due to a minor groin injury, but Gibbs emphasized it was strictly precautionary.

Said right tackle Jon Jansen: "We're going to go out there [in New England] and play a little bit more. We'll see if we can improve our results."

Newly acquired running back T.J. Duckett, acquired on Wednesday in a trade with the Atlanta Falcons, is expected to see action in the game.

"He is a veteran, so we should have some carry-over from the things he has done in Atlanta," running backs coach Earnest Byner said. "He is in shape. The thing that we can do is limit the things that we do offensively so that he is comfortable, if that is needed. I don't think that is going to be needed. I think he is going to pick things up and we are going to be able to run the offense."

Meantime, more than two dozen young players and roster hopefuls will be competing to stay around for at least one more preseason game. All 32 NFL teams must reduce their roster to 65 by Tuesday, Aug. 29.

That means plenty of young players are on the bubble this week.

"I think every time somebody goes out there, whether it's practice or a game, they have to make a statement," Gibbs said. "It is their chance to be on film. That's why last week was so important for them. You can't go out and have a bad performance. You can't afford to do that if you are one of the guys trying to make the football team."

#1Patsfan_chica
08-26-2006, 06:59 PM
What I'm keeping my eye on are the WR's, RB's, Harrison and Seau. I just don't want to see any injuries.

Benign Despot
08-26-2006, 07:16 PM
'skins are a good test, a quality team to judge our preparedness for the season so I'll be keeping an eye on pretty much everything...

I'll also be trying to get a good look at our likely #2 receiver, David Patten :D

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 07:51 PM
I am Listening to the game on Sirius. It's not televised outside the Boston area.

But I will have it live on Sirius :thumb:

Thanks Sirius

I will be interested in Our RB situation again. Skins offer a stronger Run D and I want to hear how the Kid can do.

Of course I want my Boy Mills to do well, Block your Azz off boy.

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 08:11 PM
False start? I thought we traded Gorin

Nice hands Troy for the first first down.

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 08:12 PM
3rd and 9. Brady out of the shotgun.......Fires down the file incomplete to Caldwell,

Flag on the play. P.I. First Down. :thumb:

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 08:13 PM
I get to listen to Gill on Sirius.... Brings back memories.

Caught by Watson inside the ten yard line, down at the 9.
:thumb:

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 08:15 PM
2nd and gola at the Skins 7.

Hand off to Dillon, down at the 5 yard line.

3rd and 5 coming up

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 08:16 PM
Flag in the endzone. Uncatchable ball, watson was overthrown.

4th down on the skins 5.

Gostowski from 24 yards.

Its GOOD Its GOOD

3-0 Pats

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by Hemi_1
I get to listen to Gill on Sirius.... Brings back memories.

Caught by Watson inside the ten yard line, down at the 9.
:thumb:

I think I meant Gino, anyway, still its all good.:D

#1Patsfan_chica
08-26-2006, 08:20 PM
It's Rodney time.

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 08:23 PM
Brunell (sp) is going deep early
3rd and 4 at the skins 34 Yard line

Caught by Cooley. First down Skins.

:mad:

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 08:25 PM
Ball is at mid field, Short run by the Skins,
2nd down
Incomplete Pass
3rd down
Incomplete pass

4th down Punt...............touch back

Pats ball at the 20 :thumb:

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by #1Patsfan_chica
It's Rodney time.


I almost prefer Rodney to sit this one out. But if he wants to play its cool.

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 08:28 PM
1st Down........Empty backfield

missed Troy on a pass


WOW Second down Screen pass to Dillon.......39 yard gain :thumb:

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 08:29 PM
At the Skin 41 and caught by Troy Friggen Brown inside the Ten.

1 ST and GOAL.:thumb:

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 08:30 PM
TD
TD
TD

The Kid rams iot in from 5 yards out.


Nice 80 Yard drive by our boys.

Number Cruncher
08-26-2006, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by Hemi_1
At the Skin 41 and caught by Troy Friggen Brown inside the Ten.

1 ST and GOAL.:thumb:

Fountain of Youth, baby, Fountain of Youth :thumb:

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 08:31 PM
Maroney is the best Back I have seen on this team in a long time.

I got exceited about Robert Edwards his first season too. But thats different right?

RIGHT

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 08:33 PM
10-0 Pats on top

Gotskowski Kicks it end over end.....And A new DB makes a Nailing tackle inside the skins 25.

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 08:34 PM
Skins get 5 on their first down. 3rd down at the 33.

3rd down and 1

Ras
08-26-2006, 08:34 PM
Watching 5's broadcast - damn...I hate Randy Cross amd Don Criqui as announcers

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 08:35 PM
Whistle stops the play...............Delay of Game........ 5 yards

ROFL

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by Ras
Watching 5's broadcast - damn...I hate Randy Cross amd Don Criqui as announcers....going to check out Siruis online and see what kind of delay.....

Im punching it in pretty fast Ras. Dont know how delayed I am but.

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 08:38 PM
4th dwon and punt.

Pats ball again at the Pats 38 or so.

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 08:39 PM
The Kid moves up to the 45.

3rd down and stopped..........Here comes MIller to plant one inside the 5.

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 08:40 PM
Rolled into the endzone.....touchback.

Skins ball at the 20.


OK DEFENSE DEFENSE

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 08:42 PM
Skins ball

2nd and 9

flag after the play, Taunting #55 Isnt that Seau? C Mon son your more mature than that.

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 08:43 PM
Commercial break.

is anyone out there?

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 08:45 PM
Skins ball

2nd and 3

given to Betts on the right side

cut down at the 48.

3rd down and 1

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 08:46 PM
SKins convert and get down to the 42 yard line of the Pats....

Deepest the Skins have been in Pats teritory this game so far.

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 08:47 PM
Seau Make a play.....if your going to taunt then do something.

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 08:48 PM
Skins 3 and 3 at the Pats 36


Fumble ............ Nope incomplete pass. Dayum, Brunell got smothered they said.

SKins Offense stays on the field.......Time out Skins

4th Down.

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 08:50 PM
It would be a 36 + 10 +7 on a field goal attempt right?

so it would be a 53 yard try if they go for it.

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 08:51 PM
Skins go for it....

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 08:51 PM
First down by the Skins........Completion to Moss.

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 08:52 PM
2 dn and 7 at the Pats 20 something. sry

3rd down after a run attempt by the Skins.

3rd and 6

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 08:53 PM
INCOMPLETE

4th Down at the Pats 25

Here Comes Hall.

This dude as a rookie was booting it from the 60. ;)

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 08:54 PM
BLOCKED BLOCKED


NO GOOD


BWaHAHAHAHAHA

#1Patsfan_chica
08-26-2006, 08:56 PM
It was a good block by Seymour.

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 08:58 PM
Watson had a bad drop and then made a first down catch.:thumb:

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 08:59 PM
The Brady Watson drive

Big play to Watson

PATS at the Skins 22.
2nd down.

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 09:01 PM
Sirius reported Dillon ahd been poked in the eye....Any other news?

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 09:02 PM
Originally posted by #1Patsfan_chica
It was a good block by Seymour.


Sirius reported it was Wilfork and not Seymour.

Im just glad they blocked it...Would love a shutout.

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 09:02 PM
Brady to Troy friggen Brown for a first down at the Skins 5 yard line

AGAIN

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 09:06 PM
TOUCHDOWN

BEN WATSON was wide open.......17-0 Pats whooping some Redskin Butt.

:dance: :dance: :dance: :dbanana: :dbanana: :dbanana: :dance: :dance:

#1Patsfan_chica
08-26-2006, 09:07 PM
On the tv they enhanced the footage and supposedly it was Seymour's hand. TD Brady to Watson was too easy.

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 09:07 PM
Im just going to post scores now.....

SACKED BY COLVIN INSIDE THE 10 yard line.

LOL poor Brunell. :thumb:

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by #1Patsfan_chica
On the tv they enhanced the footage and supposedly it was Seymour's hand. TD Brady to Watson was too easy.


Awesome :thumb: Thanks Patsfan_chica

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 09:09 PM
Brunell getting dirty it seems. Hope they got a bunch of back up QBs. :D

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 09:10 PM
2nd and 9 at the Skins 38 already....Must have been a poor punt by Washington.

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 09:14 PM
I think its going to take a bit for teams to figure out how to stop our formations with our Tigh ends.

RG had a thread about the four tight end set.

I think the Pats are onto something.

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 09:17 PM
Incomplete in the Endzone to faulk.

Bring on Gostowski, Its GOOD

20- nutten

Pats :thumb:

#1Patsfan_chica
08-26-2006, 09:18 PM
I was concerned with the Pats receivers (and still am) but I forgot about the TEs. Watson is going to have a monster year.

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 09:22 PM
Any word on Jackson?

He better get into shape quick....the kid needs to produce and play. If he was around maybe he would help.

#1Patsfan_chica
08-26-2006, 09:27 PM
I haven't seen Jackson, I don't even know if he's in uniform.

Benign Despot
08-26-2006, 09:36 PM
I know the 'skins are playing without Portis, but that was a DOMINATING devensive performance nonetheless.

Offense looked damn good as well, but if Caldwell keeps dropping catchable balls it's going to start to piss me off.

Overall first half grade A-

#1Patsfan_chica
08-26-2006, 10:05 PM
Good TD run by Heath Evans.:thumb:

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 10:06 PM
TD Pats.......PAT is GOOD

27- Nutten

Hemi_1
08-26-2006, 10:07 PM
I have to shut down my system here.....Lightening storm getting very very close......Dog is even shaking...:)

Night all and Great showing by our Team.

RoadGrader
08-26-2006, 10:09 PM
Evans TD run behind a smashing block by some new kid...... #45?

Number Cruncher
08-26-2006, 10:13 PM
Let's get this season started....

We'll murtilyze teams.... :thumb:

RoadGrader
08-26-2006, 10:35 PM
Hemi_1.......

I know you couldn't see this but on the TV our local affiliate sportsguy just sampled 4 new Patriot Hot Dog/brats/sausages.

too bad for you

each one was fed to him by a Pats cheerleader and I must say they really know how to handle dem wieners

unfortunately, Ashleigh was not among the sausage handlers :(

chef
08-26-2006, 10:36 PM
wat happened 2 T-buck?

RoadGrader
08-26-2006, 11:13 PM
Originally posted by chef
wat happened 2 T-buck? originally looked like it could be a knee but he was rubbing the back of his thigh just above the knee when he was sitting on the bench.

2 trainers helped support-walk him off the field and he was very gingerly* putting weight on the right leg.

check back tomorrow and I'm sure someone will have more info for you

[* gingerly = American for pussy ]

Cletusaurus
08-26-2006, 11:16 PM
41-0... it may have been "just a preseason game," but I'll take it!

So Deion, are you STILL sure you don't want to take the extension that the Pats have offered? Must've hurt his pride a little to watch Watson and Troy haul in throws that would've gone to him...

aloyouis
08-26-2006, 11:20 PM
Oh Hemi....

I could hear your voice in my head reading your posts.....You call a great game! Especially when I am shut out of the action......

Wait...I have never even MET you nevermind know what your voice sounds like....

You know what? You sound like Santos!

At least in my head that is......


aw crap...it's over.....

chiefsgal*
08-27-2006, 12:29 AM
there was more then a game tonight..I say 41-0 is a spanking...:thumb:

Wandering Athol
08-27-2006, 12:54 AM
Straying from the guys we know are going to make the team, I thought I'd mention a couple of bubble guys who impressed me tonight:

M Wright - 4 tackles, 2 sacks, 2 hurries, and 1 ST tackle; the guy hustles, gets good penetration, and seems to have a nose for the ball (schwinnnnng Stonewalled ;) )
P Cobbs - 92 yds, 7.1 average per carry, 2 TDs; has Bettis-like small feet for a bowling ball runner, and showed me a 2nd gear I didn't expect.

Wright is playing like a 5-year vet and I've got to believe will make the opening day squad; Cobbs, I just don't know...could be a numbers game there.

Another couple of guys I was impressed with in limited action:

E Alexander
J Sanders (my man finished with 4 tackles, a sack, and a hurry)

chef
08-27-2006, 01:04 AM
cobbs played real well.

main neg

no turnovers on D

Webslinger
08-27-2006, 01:07 AM
Originally posted by Wandering Athol
Straying from the guys we know are going to make the team, I thought I'd mention a couple of bubble guys who impressed me tonight:

M Wright - 4 tackles, 2 sacks, 2 hurries, and 1 ST tackle; the guy hustles, gets good penetration, and seems to have a nose for the ball (schwinnnnng Stonewalled ;) )
P Cobbs - 92 yds, 7.1 average per carry, 2 TDs; has Bettis-like small feet for a bowling ball runner, and showed me a 2nd gear I didn't expect.

Wright is playing like a 5-year vet and I've got to believe will make the opening day squad; Cobbs, I just don't know...could be a numbers game there.

Another couple of guys I was impressed with in limited action:

E Alexander
J Sanders (my man finished with 4 tackles, a sack, and a hurry)

WA - Good to see you back at it. Missed your insights and commentary here. :thumb:

Wandering Athol
08-27-2006, 04:06 AM
It was entertaining to hear John Riggins and Mike Patrick call the Pats game down hear on the local affiliate. Patrick, the stereotypical ever-optimistic homer, kept trying to find positives for the Redskins fans to hang their hats onto, while Riggins was throwing out gems like (paraphrasing)...

"I don't know Mike. I'd say the Redskins will have problems beating the Texans this season if the preseason's been any indication. You think they'll open the season 4-1; I'm more inclined to say 1-4."

(In the fourth quarter) "The Redskins are playing like they would prefer this game to end quickly so they can get back home.....and personally, I can think of at least one broadcaster who wishes the same thing."

"7 carries for 25 yards in the first half for Betts? Man, we're stretching for Redskins highlights tonight."

"Heath Evans (number 44) shares a number with an all-time sports great.....Jerry West. Reggie Jackson wasn't bad either" (Riggins, a HOFer, of course wore #44)

(tongue-in-cheek) "Maybe (offensive coordinator) Saunders is such a good coach he's saving all the good plays for the regular season, and lulling our opponents to sleep."

"I've got to check the prescription on my rose-colored glasses. I thought the 'Skins had a first down there." (on a play when the receiver only got back to the original line of scrimmage)


This coming from the guy who told Sandra Day O'Connor, "“Come on, Sandy, baby, loosen up. You're too tight.” Good times. :D

Patriots4ever
08-27-2006, 09:16 AM
Originally posted by chef
cobbs played real well.

main neg

no turnovers on D

Main Positive ---> NO PTS ALLOWED

Hemi_1
08-27-2006, 09:17 AM
Originally posted by RoadGrader
Evans TD run behind a smashing block by some new kid...... #45?

Im sure theres room for #45 on this squad. Even though he did have that fumble. :mad:

Still my boy makes me proud. :p

A shutout :dance: :dance: :dance:


Gibbs might be a little upseat with his club after this game.....Maybe he will struggle to keep 53. :D

Hemi_1
08-27-2006, 09:19 AM
Originally posted by aloyouis
Oh Hemi....

I could hear your voice in my head reading your posts.....You call a great game! Especially when I am shut out of the action......

Wait...I have never even MET you nevermind know what your voice sounds like....

You know what? You sound like Santos!

At least in my head that is......


aw crap...it's over.....


I was running with the call from Sirius. I couldnt call a bingo game on my own. :D

Hemi_1
08-27-2006, 09:27 AM
I could have chucked a Steak Outside and My Lab wunt even thought about going after it. She is such a pussy when it comes to storms.

Hemi_1
08-27-2006, 09:28 AM
Originally posted by RoadGrader
Hemi_1.......

I know you couldn't see this but on the TV our local affiliate sportsguy just sampled 4 new Patriot Hot Dog/brats/sausages.

too bad for you

each one was fed to him by a Pats cheerleader and I must say they really know how to handle dem wieners

unfortunately, Ashleigh was not among the sausage handlers :(


I can visualize this RG................Be back in a bit. ;)

Patriots4ever
08-27-2006, 09:36 AM
Originally posted by RoadGrader
Hemi_1.......

I know you couldn't see this but on the TV our local affiliate sportsguy just sampled 4 new Patriot Hot Dog/brats/sausages.

too bad for you

each one was fed to him by a Pats cheerleader and I must say they really know how to handle dem wieners

unfortunately, Ashleigh was not among the sausage handlers :(

You know...... I love looking at cheerleaders just like the next guy, but I'm gonna go and have to say that that was stupid.

They took us away from the game, THE REASON WHY I WAS WATCHING! You couldn't see anything that was happening on the field, and a Patriots game gets turned into the Mike Lynch show. Uh, I tuned in to watch football, not Lynchie eating hot dogs. That's the same type of stuff that TV pulls like NESN does with Tina Cervasio, and now last night disgusts me. ESPN does crap like that also. When is TV going to get it: people are only interested in the sporting event. It's NOT a talk show for your employees broacasting the GAME! After that episode, I went into the other room and grabbed my BOSE and put on Gil and Gino.

Sorry for the rant, but that chit really REALLY pisses me off! Thanks for brining that up RG. Now I'm in a PO'ed mood! :D

dchester
08-27-2006, 09:46 AM
I had a great time at the game last night. I was up in the nose bleed seats, but they really weren't that bad. I could easily see the whole field, and didn't need binoculars. The only thing was that it was occasionally hard to tell who individual players were (especially in a pile). All in all, it was an enjoyable night.
:thumb:

Brady and Caldwell were out of sync with each outher all night. It's hard to know who' was at fault, although the drops were all on Caldwell. Brady had no problems finding Watson though, and at times it appeared like Brady was locking in on him. Teams are going to have to game plan for him. Cassel looks like he can play in this league, and he didn't seem to have any problem hooking up with Caldwell. Cobbs looked good again, and Wright was a beast (along with Seymour, Wilfork, and Warren). As a long time Pats fans, I still am amazed that our defensive line is so dominating.

My take on the Skins:
Redskins - Portis = 0

As the coaches say, I'll have to wait until I see the film before going into any detailed analysis.

:D
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harrisonhits
08-27-2006, 09:53 AM
<<
I tuned in to watch football, not Lynchie eating hot dogs
>>

That had nothing to do with Lynch and everything to do with the Patriots wanting to see their new enterprise selling meat take off. Wouldn't surprise me to see something like that every couple games as the Pats try and maximize revenue any way they can.

You have to laugh at owners like Ralph Wilson who cry poor while they won't even give up the naming rights to their stadium. Meanwhile creative teams like the Pats come up with ways to cross market the team and generate more $$.

Patriots4ever
08-27-2006, 09:55 AM
Originally posted by harrisonhits
That had nothing to do with Lynch and everything to do with the Patriots wanting to see their new enterprise selling meat take off. Wouldn't surprise me to see something like that every couple games as the Pats try and maximize revenue any way they can.

You have to laugh at owners like Ralph Wilson who cry poor while they won't even give up the naming rights to their stadium. Meanwhile creative teams like the Pats come up with ways to cross market the team and generate more $$.

Then get commercial air space. Don't take me away from the football game, the reason why I tuned in.

I understand what they're doing, BTW, and I don't have to like it either. :)

Hemi_1
08-27-2006, 10:00 AM
NFL Network is showing the game at 11 Am Central Time today.

I got it set to record. :thumb:

RoadGrader
08-27-2006, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by Hemi_1
NFL Network is showing the game at 11 Am Central Time today.

I got it set to record. :thumb: I just went looking for a screen capture of the cheerleader/sausage holding promo during the game for you but I (pardon the expression) came up short :mad:

I don't have the same pic finding expertise as say HelenaHandbsket has :(

if you have a way to get a screen capture from that segment with Mike Lynch, it would make a good thread

Hemi_1
08-27-2006, 10:45 AM
Im sorry but the best I can do is take a digital photo of the scene on the TV and post it.

You are one funny dude RG.:thumb:

Im glad your here. :thumb:

JD10367
08-27-2006, 11:03 AM
Well.

You know the sign of a solid team? When, after the game, you can say, "Gee, they didn't run the ball that well, and Brady was a bit off sync, and they let a couple of 3rd and 4th down conversions get by that they should really stop..." And with all that, they decimated Washington 41-0, crushed them in yardage, and barely let them sniff the Patriots' side of the field.

The good:

-- Seau. Hard to believe he's an old recently-retired guy who has only been looking at the playbook for a week. He's energetic, moves side-to-side, is around the ball, and basically does everything we need for a backup ILB.

-- The defense. Stuffed the run game, sacked anyone who lined up at QB for the 'Skins, were pretty good in the passing game.

-- The short passing game. Yes, they'd be better with Branch, but Brady showed once again that he's willing to compensate by spreading it around.

-- Ben Watson. He's turning into the monster we'd hoped. Too big and fast for a linebacker, can line up as a receiver as well as a tight end. Sweet.

-- Patrick Cobbs. This kid continues to make a case for a roster spot.

The bad:

-- Reche Caldwell. Dude, you've got to get on the same page. The receiving corps is thinner than Nicole Ritchie. You're going to be starting by default. We NEED you to catch a ball or two.

-- The ground game. Less than 3 YPC in the first half. Not so good. Then again, you take what the defense gives you, and Brady had all night to throw the ball (especially to Watson), so it's not like they were forcing the issue on the ground.

Some big-name guys that I think are going to be cleaning out their lockers very soon: Beisel, Sullivan, Klecko, Pass and Hill. Other guys have made a much better impression. I think Mike Wright has earned a spot, and I think Patrick Cobbs will be a surprise keeper.

It looked like Tebucky became our second backup defender (and solid STer) to head to the IR. He pulled up lame and hit the ground in pain without anyone laying a finger on him; that looked very much like "snapped hammy".

I think some other guys like Freddie Roach, Pierre Woods, and LeKevin Smith might be cut in the last round and added back to the PS.

There are going to be some very tough cuts, but that's what happens when you're a three-time SB winner with a deep roster.

OFFENSE (25):

QB (2): Brady, Cassell

RB (4): Dillon, Maroney, Faulk, Cobbs

FB (2): Evans, Mills

TE (3): Watson, Graham, Thomas

WR (5): Caldwell, Brown, Childress, Andrews (yeah, I know he's a DB, but I think they'll list him here), Jackson (yeah, he hasn't seen the field, but they'll need him later in the season).

OL (9): Neal, Koppen, O'Callaghan, Mankins, Hochstein, Light, Kaczur, Mruckzkowksi, Yates

DEFENSE (25):

DL (5): Wilfork, Warren, Seymour, Green, Wright

LB (10): Colvin, Seau, Banta-Cain, Vrabel, Bruschi, Seau, Davis, Izzo, Alexander, Mincey

DB (10): Harrison, Wilson, Hobbs, Sanders, Samuel, Warfield, C. Scott, Gay, Hawkins, Poteat

ST (3): Gostkowski, Miller, Paxton

Wandering Athol
08-27-2006, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by JD10367
LB (10): Colvin, Seau, Banta-Cain, Vrabel, Bruschi, Seau, Davis, Izzo, Alexander, Mincey

When did we sign Senior Seau? :D j/k

dchester
08-27-2006, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by RoadGrader
I just went looking for a screen capture of the cheerleader/sausage holding promo during the game for you but I (pardon the expression) came up short :mad:

I don't have the same pic finding expertise as say HelenaHandbsket has :(

if you have a way to get a screen capture from that segment with Mike Lynch, it would make a good thread
How's this RG?

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JD10367
08-27-2006, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by Wandering Athol
When did we sign Senior Seau? :D j/k

He's so good he counts twice, LOL?

Umm... Okay, maybe only 9 LBs and a 6th DL.

Maybe Johnathan Sullivan will be so impressive in practice this week that he'll earn a spot...

Or maybe I'm just :high:

harrisonhits
08-27-2006, 04:08 PM
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I don't have to like it either.
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Hey c'mon, I think its genius. The next time one of these players (Branch) bitches about not being able to feed their family, the Pats can toss in a few hundred pounds of meat a year on the offer and problem solved :D

Imagine how easy it would have been to keep Law on the team ROFL

BostonTim
08-27-2006, 06:05 PM
[i]Isay 41-0 is a spanking... [/B]

OK (no pun intended), I'll bite. As a certified D.O.M. I can't help but think "spanking" no matter what you post.

Cheers, BostonTim

RoadGrader
08-27-2006, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by dchester
How's this RG?

dmachine.......you beautiful, beautiful man

thanx for the pics. now Hemi_1 and the rest of the unfortunates that did not have the TV feed can share the moment.

lets go to the telestrator~~~~

note that the less experienced blond c-leader to the right is holding her meat product incorrectly, by it's end where an ever so slight wrist movement could cause user distress.

we see that she acknowledges her inexperience by her expressing with her eyes her admiration for her college to the left who is displaying proper form.

note our beaming brunette, displaying poise and genuine professionalism in her cupping the 7+" meat delicacy firmly yet knowingly that it's consumption is at hand.

back to you guys in the <strike>peep-show</strike> booth

Wandering Athol
08-27-2006, 11:04 PM
Couple of tidbits from Belichick concerning last night's game I thought were worth passing along....

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/
What did you see from Junior Seau?
"He was in on a few plays and starting to get the communication and playing with guys, the fits in the running game, playing some drop-back pass responsibilities and stuff like that, built in from the practice reps. That's a start."

How does running back Patrick Cobbs (92 yards on 13 carries vs. the Redskins) look to you so far?
"He's a young player who has had some nice looking plays and he's also had some other plays that he would need to improve on and be more consistent with. I think there are some positives there. ... He's made some impressive plays, some nice runs and he hustles and he's a tough kid."

Is Johnathan Sullivan improving?
"He sure is. He definitely is. I think every game he's played better, and practiced better."


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Reiss also adds in his blog, "Monty Beisel -- Inside linebacker isn't on any top special teams units and doesn't play defense until late in the third quarter, a sign his roster spot could be in jeopardy."

First Gorin, and now maybe Monty! I don't know if my heart could take all that happiness in such a short timespan. Pioli swings another potential 6th-rounder for his ass and I think he should be a lock for Executive of the Year.

p.s. Webslinger, thanks for your kind words earlier. It's good to be back, but unfortunately it looks like my schedule's going to make it almost impossible to be a regular contributor this Fall (baby needs a new set of shoes if you catch my drift).

Webslinger
08-27-2006, 11:11 PM
[i]
p.s. Webslinger, thanks for your kind words earlier. It's good to be back, but unfortunately it looks like my schedule's going to make it almost impossible to be a regular contributor this Fall (baby needs a new set of shoes if you catch my drift). [/B]

This workin' for a living ain't all it's cracked up to be.;)

vicsportsaddict
08-28-2006, 06:09 AM
It was entertaining to hear John Riggins and Mike Patrick call the Pats game down hear on the local affiliate. Patrick, the stereotypical ever-optimistic homer, kept trying to find positives for the Redskins fans to hang their hats onto, while Riggins was throwing out gems like

BizarroAnnihilus
08-28-2006, 08:08 AM
Originally posted by vicsportsaddict
It was entertaining to hear John Riggins and Mike Patrick call the Pats game down hear on the local affiliate. Patrick, the stereotypical ever-optimistic homer, kept trying to find positives for the Redskins fans to hang their hats onto, while Riggins was throwing out gems like

While Annihilus enjoys the occasional use of the cut and paste, you have to know when to use it in moderation. Plus Wandering Athol is liable to whup some ass for blatant theft (especially when you don't even copy the entire paragraph).

Got any original material there, guy?

Hemi_1
08-28-2006, 08:52 AM
RG, Good telistration job. :thumb:

I might ask at this juncture..........Can the blond be quickly taught or would she need much coaching to handle her weiner properly?

Undertaker #59
08-28-2006, 08:54 AM
WELCOME BACK WA!

I hope you can find the time as much as you can for some analysis this fall. Hope things are well.

Hawg73
08-28-2006, 09:00 AM
Good stuff by RG, as we have come to expect. All we would have needed for more complete entertainment would be Lynchie choking on a chunk of sausage and the cheerleaders performing the heimlich maneuver on him. It was painful to watch, for sure.

As far as the game goes, I'm not going to get too psyched up because it wasn't a real game, but the Redskins looked thoroughly overwhelmed. I don't think having whacko Portis in the lineup would have made a significant difference. We just bleeping killed them.

Some observations:

* I got goosebumps seeing Rodney in the starting lineup, but it may be a while before we can count on him. He looked tentative, understandably. Still, it was an unexpected pleasure to see him.

* I liked the toughness Watson showed when his pinky got dislocated early on and he had a trainer pop it straight and tape it up, then went out and had an impressive night torturing Gregg Williams. That can really smart, but Watson couldn't wait to get back out there. He is a very shaky run blocker, but the kid can catch.

* The Oline has a chance to be the best unit we have seen in many a moon. Matt Light has been playing very well as evidenced by the nice run block he threw that Maroney cut up inside of for his nine-yard TD run. I don't know if the Skins' D line is as bad as we made it look, or we are that good, but the protection was excellent and the run blocking pretty solid. They had zero rush from their down line all night long.

I tried to focus on Big Ryan OC as much as I could and while I noticed a few mistakes and he got whistled for a Gorin (false start), he was better than good most of the night. The kid can play, but I expect he will still have problems with the speed burners' outside rush once in a while. The good news with that is that he is so huge and strong then he will be a mismatch for most of them. Should be interesting to watch him against Strahan next week to see how far he has come. He really gets a great push on running plays.

* Tully BC seems to be turning a corner before our eyes and seems more aware and aggressive than in the past. I thought it was his best performance as a Patriot.

* We are going to have a lot of fun watching Colvin this year-- he was abusing people out there last night and was setting the edge beautifully on running downs along with his excellent pass rush.

* Vrabel is Vrabel. As good as ever. What a football player this guy is.

* Brady was enjoying the extra time to stretch the field and was his usual superb self. Imagine if we had a deep threat. I noticed that Tom was more vocal than I have ever seen him and was yelling for guys to get back in the huddle with over 8 minutes left in the half like it was a playoff game and time was running out.

He also chewed out a couple of guys including, it appeared, Troy Brown.

* We expect excellence from Seymour and Wilfork and got it from the latter while the former was on cruise control all night, but Ty Warren opened my eyes a few times with solid gap control and what appeared to be some improved rushing moves. Looks like he is using his hands to disengage and I expect he will be an improved rusher this season.

* I've been beefing about the lack of depth on the Dline, but I'm starting to rethink that after watching Mike Wright last night. He was really, really good and made a number of plays from scrimmage and special teams. His straight line speed is pretty impressive for a 300 pounder. Hell, even Sullivan made a couple of plays indicating that he might not be a complete stiff. Things are looking up.

* The front line DBs have been doing pretty well thus far, but the backups also looked impressive Saturday night. You had to love Randall Gay crushing a TE with a perfect form tackle in the second half and both Hobbs and Samuel appear to be ready to be heard from in '06.

* I can't see a spot for him on this roster, but I hope and pray that somehow BB cooks up a plan to keep Patrick Cobbs. This kid is a find and I'd love to have him on our PS or bench. Just a natural-born running back. He showed more in three games than Cedric Cobbs did in his entire stay with us. We got the right Cobbs this time, let's keep him.

* Reche Caldwell runs terrible pass routes and has no speed out of his cuts, plus, his hands are shaky. I pray Branch returns to this team, ASAP.

dchester
08-28-2006, 09:00 AM
Originally posted by Hemi_1
RG, Good telistration job. :thumb:

I might ask at this juncture..........Can the blond be quickly taught or would she need much coaching to handle her weiner properly? I agree. He sure knows how to handle things. I think Channel 5 should be considering RG for a guest appearance on Patriots All-Access.
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RoadGrader
08-28-2006, 09:05 AM
Originally posted by Hemi_1
RG, Good telistration job. :thumb:

I might ask at this juncture..........Can the blond be quickly taught or would she need much coaching to handle her weiner properly? I would say she may be a day-to-day or even a night-by-night project at this point in the Pre-Season.

but her sparkling eyes and radiant smile say "eager-beaver" to this willing coach

always a good sign in a prospect :thumb: :thumb:

BizarroAnnihilus
08-28-2006, 09:10 AM
Originally posted by Hawg73
* Brady was enjoying the extra time to stretch the field and was his usual superb self. Imagine if we had a deep threat. I noticed that Tom was more vocal than I have ever seen him and was yelling for guys to get back in the huddle with over 8 minutes left in the half like it was a playoff game and time was running out.

He also chewed out a couple of guys including, it appeared, Troy Brown.

* I can't see a spot for him on this roster, but I hope and pray that somehow BB cooks up a plan to keep Patrick Cobbs. This kid is a find and I'd love to have him on our PS or bench. Just a natural-born running back. He showed more in three games than Cedric Cobbs did in his entire stay with us. We got the right Cobbs this time, let's keep him.



Annihilus caught Brady chewing out Brown too, dunno if it was to get him back in the huddle or telling him he needed that he should've come back (to catch the pass that he didn't catch). It was great, nevertheless.

You're right about Cobbs too.....Annihilus isn't a great evaluator of talent, but you'd think they'd have to find a way to keep this kid around. Yeah, he's working against a bunch of guys that will probably never play in the league, but if the Pats put him on the Practice Squad, he'll be gone quicker than the Colts in the playoffs.

Hawg73
08-28-2006, 09:19 AM
Originally posted by RoadGrader
I would say she may be a day-to-day or even a night-by-night project at this point in the Pre-Season.

but her sparkling eyes and radiant smile say "eager-beaver" to this willing coach

always a good sign in a prospect :thumb: :thumb:

She's a keeper, for sure.

I was checking out the entire cheerleading corps dancing in the end zone and every last one of them seemed to have an indentical figure with perfect abs and zero fat on them. They looked like clones with different faces and hair color.

I wonder if they have to pass a conditioning run?

RavenZ
08-28-2006, 09:32 AM
Mild rant

I haaaaaate Randy Cross & the other goof doing the play by play, at least someone is teaching Cross how to talk without showing so much teeth.

Camera work sucks also, they pan so far back I can't tell what is going on.

Or maybe I'm just cranky:mad:

Hawg73
08-28-2006, 09:39 AM
Originally posted by RavenB

Or maybe I'm just cranky:mad:

Possibly.

But in this case you are dead right. Cross is bad enough, but waking Criqui from the dead to do this game is just unfair.

I KNOW I should listen to Gil and Gino, but it's like a car accident watching these guys. I can't look away. Plus, on my feed their voices were mismatched with the picture, so it was like watching a low-grade Kung Fu movie, which just added to the comedy.

I'm guessing that Cross' IQ hovers around the 75 level.

Undertaker #59
08-28-2006, 09:43 AM
That's for sure.

I watched the rebroadcast of the game on Sunday on the NFL Network, and they used the Redskins announcers and cameras for the second half. It was of course Redskins orientated, but it was a MUCH better listen than Criqui and Cross.

We need to complain to WCVB about these jokers.

RavenZ
08-28-2006, 10:06 AM
Originally posted by Undertaker #59
That's for sure.

I watched the rebroadcast of the game on Sunday on the NFL Network, and they used the Redskins announcers and cameras for the second half. It was of course Redskins orientated, but it was a MUCH better listen than Criqui and Cross.

We need to complain to WCVB about these jokers.

I thought it was me. I thought the Redskins guys did a better job too.


Hawg's quote:
I KNOW I should listen to Gil and Gino, but it's like a car accident watching these guys. I can't look away. Plus, on my feed their voices were mismatched with the picture, so it was like watching a low-grade Kung Fu movie, which just added to the comedy.

With you on that one Hawg. You should announce the game, you have a better speaking voice and know more about the game I bet. I think I'll start a petition.

;)

Wandering Athol
08-28-2006, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by Hawg73
* I got goosebumps seeing Rodney in the starting lineup, but it may be a while before we can count on him. He looked tentative, understandably. Still, it was an unexpected pleasure to see him.

Given what we've seen now from Culpepper, Palmer, and Harrison, I think we can safely assume that we can throw everything we thought we knew about the recovery time from these types of injuries out the window. Score one for modern medical marvels.

* I liked the toughness Watson showed when his pinky got dislocated early on and he had a trainer pop it straight and tape it up, then went out and had an impressive night torturing Gregg Williams. That can really smart, but Watson couldn't wait to get back out there. He is a very shaky run blocker, but the kid can catch.

I'll probably comment more on this in another thread when I've got more time: while Watson's looking fantastic, there are ways to stop good running teams in the NFL that have no threats at wideout IF a defense has the proper personnel....and I'm not talking about the '85 Bears defense either.

In 2001, this team had the 2001 version of Troy Brown. Bless his soul, but the 2006 version is not an adequate substitute. And Jackson missing all this time at training camp isn't boding well for the Pats' passing attack either.

* The Oline has a chance to be the best unit we have seen in many a moon. Matt Light has been playing very well as evidenced by the nice run block he threw that Maroney cut up inside of for his nine-yard TD run. I don't know if the Skins' D line is as bad as we made it look, or we are that good, but the protection was excellent and the run blocking pretty solid. They had zero rush from their down line all night long.

I'd have to double-check this, but I believe the 'Skins were operating sans two starters on the D-line - not much of an excuse for what happened in the 3rd & 4th quarters though.

I tried to focus on Big Ryan OC as much as I could and while I noticed a few mistakes and he got whistled for a Gorin (false start), he was better than good most of the night. The kid can play, but I expect he will still have problems with the speed burners' outside rush once in a while. The good news with that is that he is so huge and strong then he will be a mismatch for most of them. Should be interesting to watch him against Strahan next week to see how far he has come. He really gets a great push on running plays.

Good against strength, poor against speed, huh? So essentially we could have the next Brandon Gorin on our hands. eeek ;)

Kidding aside, if this kid turns out to be the roadgrader at right tackle we've all been dreaming about, then O'Callahan, and not Jackson, will end up being the steal of the Pats' draft. Kaczur better be doing all he can in rehab to get back onto the field, or he could end up getting Wally Pipp'ed.

* Tully BC seems to be turning a corner before our eyes and seems more aware and aggressive than in the past. I thought it was his best performance as a Patriot.

* We are going to have a lot of fun watching Colvin this year-- he was abusing people out there last night and was setting the edge beautifully on running downs along with his excellent pass rush.

* Vrabel is Vrabel. As good as ever. What a football player this guy is.

* We expect excellence from Seymour and Wilfork and got it from the latter while the former was on cruise control all night, but Ty Warren opened my eyes a few times with solid gap control and what appeared to be some improved rushing moves. Looks like he is using his hands to disengage and I expect he will be an improved rusher this season.


Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. I've been down on this guy in the past, but TBC looked like a player out there on Saturday. He needs to come up BIG this year for the Pats if they're going to run much 3-4 effectively.

I've been beefing about the lack of depth on the Dline, but I'm starting to rethink that after watching Mike Wright last night. He was really, really good and made a number of plays from scrimmage and special teams. His straight line speed is pretty impressive for a 300 pounder. Hell, even Sullivan made a couple of plays indicating that he might not be a complete stiff. Things are looking up.

He looks like a gem of a find as a 4-3 d-tackle. Only one probelm, right?

When I look at the other backups, Green and Sullivan, I think the same thing. Hmmmmm...... :spock:

* The front line DBs have been doing pretty well thus far, but the backups also looked impressive Saturday night. You had to love Randall Gay crushing a TE with a perfect form tackle in the second half and both Hobbs and Samuel appear to be ready to be heard from in '06.

So when can I sign you up in the official Asante Samuel fan club? I think this kid's got it, and I hope he's extended before the season ends.

* Reche Caldwell runs terrible pass routes and has no speed out of his cuts, plus, his hands are shaky. I pray Branch returns to this team, ASAP.

I'm going to show my ignorance here, but before I left, wasn't this guy the talk of mini-camp at the WR position. What's going on here?

Three and a half yards and a cloud of dust dispersed between TE routes, Troy Bowns crossing patterns, and RB dump-offs is going to be a hard way to win all your games. (Now that I think about it, that strategy kind of reminds me of the 1990 Giants. Bonus points for anyone who can remember that team's DC.)