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spiderman
04-01-2005, 06:37 AM
This is pure Genius.

By using this new term "Swift Boat Tactics" she's effectively neutralizing any future criticism. You see, it doesn't even matter if her opponents are telling 100% facts, because they are just using "swift boat tactics". Genius, pure genius. My hats off to the Clintons they've done it again.

Clinton Supporters Gear Up Against 'Swift Boat' Tactics
By RAYMOND HERNANDEZ

Published: April 1, 2005


WASHINGTON, March 31 - With 19 months to go before the elections and no opponent in sight, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign is nonetheless warning her political supporters that she is the prime target of "the right-wing attack machine."

In a fund-raising e-mail message sent out on Thursday, Mrs. Clinton's campaign also said her critics were preparing an advertising campaign against her similar to the one orchestrated by Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, a group that attacked Senator John Kerry's Vietnam service during the presidential election.

"The right wing is already getting ready, naming Hillary as their 'No. 1 target' and boasting about their 'Swift Boat' style ads," said the e-mail message, which was sent by Ann F. Lewis, the director of communications for Mrs. Clinton's campaign committee, Friends of Hillary. "Help us show the right wing that we will be ready and able to fight back."

In many respects, the fund-raising letter is a fairly standard piece of campaign literature, employing the kind of scare tactics that Republican and Democratic politicians routinely use to mobilize their supporters.

That said, the fund-raising solicitation exposes a side of Mrs. Clinton - fiery partisan - that she has rarely displayed in the four years since she arrived in the Senate, where she has won over many Republican colleagues with a nonconfrontational and even cordial style.

In an interview, Ms. Lewis said the e-mail message was largely sent in response to published reports that Republicans are creating a political action committee seeking to raise $10 million to run a campaign against Mrs. Clinton in 2006. The committee is reportedly going to model its campaign after the one that the Swift Boat veterans used in 2004 to attack Mr. Kerry's war record, Ms. Lewis said.

The Clinton e-mail solicitation - one of two sent this week - also suggests that her formidable fund-raising apparatus is gearing up for what her aides say could become a tough re-election season. To date, Mrs. Clinton has amassed $5.5 million in her war chest, according to the latest campaign disclosure statement.

Though Mrs. Clinton's popularity rating is high and New York Republican leaders have yet to find a candidate to run against her, people close to the senator say they expect Republicans around the country to pump money into New York in an effort to defeat her. Indeed, some Republicans say they believe that if they do not stop Mrs. Clinton in 2006, she will be in a strong position to run for the presidency in 2008.

In the 2000 Senate campaign, Mrs. Clinton spent nearly $30 million. She faced two Republican challengers: Rudolph W. Giuliani, who spent about $20.7 million before dropping out, and Rick A. Lazio, a congressman from Long Island who spent $40.6 million, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.

bideau
04-01-2005, 07:14 AM
I guess you could say the democrats are learning how to run a campaign like the republicans.

And until we see what the republicans try to tar her with, it's hard to say if they're 100% correct.

spiderman
04-01-2005, 07:29 AM
Originally posted by bideau
I guess you could say the democrats are learning how to run a campaign like the republicans.

Bill and Hillary are head and shoulders above any Republicans when it comes to this stuff IMO. That's my point, this is pure genius.

If anything it is the Republicans who have learned from them.

Originally posted by bideau
And until we see what the republicans try to tar her with, it's hard to say if they're 100% correct.

I said "if". It was a hypothetical. By her launching this pre-emptive strike she's putting herself in a great position. Now any personal criticism will be reported in the press as a "swift boat attack", it will become the buzz phrase the press always likes to latch on to, and it will effectively neutralize whatever criticism comes her way. Valid or not.

I really am sincere in my admiration. I would never in a million years vote for her, but the Clintons are at their best during campaigns.

SamBam39
04-02-2005, 09:45 AM
I don't think she can get elected (even if nominated) but at least she is trying to be proactive. Kerry could have learned a few things from her.

RayClay
04-29-2005, 06:24 PM
So your saying that's a code word for unsubstantiated lies?

RayClay
04-29-2005, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by spiderman
Bill and Hillary are head and shoulders above any Republicans when it comes to this stuff IMO. That's my point, this is pure genius.

If anything it is the Republicans who have learned from them.



I said "if". It was a hypothetical. By her launching this pre-emptive strike she's putting herself in a great position. Now any personal criticism will be reported in the press as a "swift boat attack", it will become the buzz phrase the press always likes to latch on to, and it will effectively neutralize whatever criticism comes her way. Valid or not.

I really am sincere in my admiration. I would never in a million years vote for her, but the Clintons are at their best during campaigns.

Oh, sad but true.

I really hope Hillary isn't the only Democrat with balls in 2008.:banghead:

ELOrocks17
05-09-2005, 04:17 PM
Hillary is the anti-christ! She is one of the most evil trolls on the face of this earth.

spiderman
05-11-2005, 12:19 PM
I'm shocked (not really) that the media is supporting Hillary's, "I'm just the victim of a vast right wing conspiracy" campaign.

http://www.mrc.org/cyberalerts/2005/cyb20050511.asp#1


Maybe "Judicial Watch" keeps bringing this up because nobody else will.

Bandwagoneer*
05-13-2005, 10:38 AM
Anyone who's paid attention to the Republican Party and their stooges in the media over the last 12 years should know that the campaign against Sen. Clinton is going to be one of the ugliest we've ever seen. It'd be crazy of her not to prepare herself.

mikiemo83
05-13-2005, 11:44 AM
Originally posted by ELOrocks17
Hillary is the anti-christ! She is one of the most evil trolls on the face of this earth.

and Bill was/is her little bitch puppet.

ELOrocks17
05-14-2005, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by mikiemo83
and Bill was/is her little bitch puppet.



hahahahahahah soo true!:D

Threadkiller
05-14-2005, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by ELOrocks17
hahahahahahah soo true!:D

what are you talking about? seriously! bill clinton is HER puppet? c'mon man.

ok now. slowly. turn off Faux News and back away from the television. good. slowly.

ELOrocks17
05-14-2005, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by dreithraider76
what are you talking about? seriously! bill clinton is HER puppet? c'mon man.

ok now. slowly. turn off Faux News and back away from the television. good. slowly.

You are insane if you think slick Willy wears the pants in that family.

Threadkiller
05-14-2005, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by ELOrocks17
You are insane if you think slick Willy wears the pants in that family.

On what, pray tell, do you base this opinion? Please don't tell me Brit Hume or one of those donkeys at Fox News.

What, did Hilary manipulate Bill into being a two-term President of the United States of America so she could become the junior Senator from the State of New York?

That's kind of putting the cart before the horse, dontcha think?

O_P_T
05-15-2005, 09:57 AM
Originally posted by dreithraider76
On what, pray tell, do you base this opinion? Please don't tell me Brit Hume or one of those donkeys at Fox News.

They were clearly a team.

She was put in direct charge of the helath care reform plan during his first term.

Now I fully realize that First Ladies have influence with their husband and his policies, but how many are a public leader of a major program of the administration?

The last one before her I can think of was Elenore Roosevelt.

As to which one dominated the pair, that is an open question.

mikiemo83
05-15-2005, 10:39 AM
Originally posted by dreithraider76
On what, pray tell, do you base this opinion? Please don't tell me Brit Hume or one of those donkeys at Fox News.

What, did Hilary manipulate Bill into being a two-term President of the United States of America so she could become the junior Senator from the State of New York?

That's kind of putting the cart before the horse, dontcha think?

it was joke based on her saying something like "during MY Presidency...."during a interview. She did wear one leg of the pants though it was a partnership with her setting up her future in politics